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Old 08-19-2018   #1
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Suspicious Contax

Genuine Contax?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123299783778

Hint: Look at his other items for sale. All of them are laser-engraved.

His alter-ego account is selling this "Hasselblad": https://www.ebay.com/itm/332752939794

Unbelievable how he can have 100% positive feedback.
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Old 08-19-2018   #2
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Laser engraving was very popular back then it seems....
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Old 08-19-2018   #3
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"Nice"? Kiev.
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Thanks, that was good for a laugh, especially after looking at all the pictures of the Contax. He’s even ground off the top layer of leather on the case so he could write Contax on it.
I’m not sure what’s funnier, the possibility he thinks this will fool anyone, or the thought that there might be someone out there whom it would.
World record for forgery ineptitude, at any rate. Still laughing.
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Genuine Contax?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123299783778

Hint: Look at his other items for sale. All of them are laser-engraved.

His alter-ego account is selling this "Hasselblad": https://www.ebay.com/itm/332752939794

Unbelievable how he can have 100% positive feedback.
It couldn't be genuine,

its missing the ikonic German military engraving

"Adolf loves Eva".
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Old 08-19-2018   #6
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Check out the German 'Hasselblad' he has for sale!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/332752939794
Not certain if that's epoxy or chewing gum holding on the nameplate.
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Old 08-19-2018   #7
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The forger could not even get hold of a proper Kiev III to fake up but had to use a Kiev IIIa with factory flash sync pc outlet.

The 1955 year serial number on the lens does not help in his "Contax" delusion.
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Old 08-19-2018   #8
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I think it is genuine, but contains a spelling error - it must be Kontax...
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It couldn't be genuine,

its missing the ikonic German military engraving

"Adolf loves Eva".
Dear Stephen,

You mean that's not a genuine engraving? Damn! I'd been saving that Leica to fund my retirement.

AND it's one of the rare ones with the triangular cam follower for the rangefinder.

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The KONTAX and the LEIKA cameras are known collectibles!
Finding a German Hasselblad is as rare as finding a genuine KONTAX camera.
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Ruined a probably nice Kiev IIIa.
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I like that the Jupiter-8 writing on lens is "smudged" over, but the red cryllic P is visible
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A blind might go for it.
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Ya know, this ebay seller has lots of great stuff for sale. I checked out some other sales and noticed he (assuming its a "he") has a bunch of collectible old watches and sports memorabilia for sale. Fascinating stuff!

However, I've noticed a common theme among all his rare collectible amazing items....everything seems to be made special by its engraving. Looks like laser engraving.....hmmmm.

Aren't there laws against such large-scale forgery and fraud?
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Found a perfect lens for it... <Carl Zeiss Sonnar>

Different mount but who cares anyway...
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At least when I looked nobody had bid on the "Contax" yet, but the Hasselbladski was approaching $200 with 24 bids. Some Hasselblad collectors/users must be even more gullible than I thought....
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The "Hasselblad" got 31 bids and was sold for £250, and within a couple of days I am sure that the buyer will leave positive feedback. As always.


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It couldn't be genuine,

its missing the ikonic German military engraving

"Adolf loves Eva".
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Dear Stephen,

You mean that's not a genuine engraving? Damn! I'd been saving that Leica to fund my retirement.

AND it's one of the rare ones with the triangular cam follower for the rangefinder.

Cheers,

R.
Thanks both of you. It's been a very tedious day here where I work. I needed those.
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Found a perfect lens for it... <Carl Zeiss Sonnar>

Different mount but who cares anyway...
A really good seller to get to know:

If you need more lenses, just write to me. I will create for you any item of your choice.
Lenses can be very good or satisfactory condition. Anything you want. The price agreement.
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Now the criminal is selling a Zorki-6 as a Kriegsmarine Leica.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/323412816310


Let us report it and see if eBay does anything. I doubt it.
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Old 08-26-2018   #21
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It would be ok if he pointed out that its a copy but he didn't.
Its neither german nor kriegsmarine - at least he didn't grind off the kmz logo
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It would be ok if he pointed out that its a copy but he didn't.
Its neither german nor kriegsmarine - at least he didn't grind off the kmz logo
Surely the KMZ logo is merely a mis-engraving for KriegZMarine

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I have mixed feelings on these fake things. On the one hand, it's (often) plain dishonesty, although in some cases it may be down to cluelessness. On the other hand, caveat emptor. If you don't do your research before buying, it serves you right if you get caught out.

For the one-off items, I can see it's a bit much for auction sites to police (which doesn't excuse them not trying) but where it's persistent they really should act. Trouble is, it's too easy to turn a blind eye and take the fees.
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I have mixed feelings on these fake things. On the one hand, it's (often) plain dishonesty, although in some cases it may be down to cluelessness. On the other hand, caveat emptor. If you don't do your research before buying, it serves you right if you get caught out.

It is plain dishonesty in this case. The seller buys worthless stuff and use his laser engraving machine to add fake brand names or names of famous people or events to personal items. They sell like hotcakes and surprisingly he has 100% positive feedback on most of his accounts.


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For the one-off items, I can see it's a bit much for auction sites to police (which doesn't excuse them not trying) but where it's persistent they really should act. Trouble is, it's too easy to turn a blind eye and take the fees.

This is a multi billion Dollar company, so they can afford to hire experts to police the auctions. But it's perhaps the lack of said experts that they are a multi billion Dollar company.



"Maybe a 1960's Soviet made camera could have been used by the german navy during WWII. To tell for sure we would have to be experts in physics and know if time travel is possible or not. Since we aren't, we are going to allow this auction".
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Now the criminal is selling a Zorki-6 as a Kriegsmarine Leica.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/323412816310


Let us report it and see if eBay does anything. I doubt it.
Wait, the Kriegsmarine Leica is a different account:


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necesito15 17-Apr-18 Present
brexit2019 09-Jul-17 17-Apr-18
v************0 28-Apr-16 09-Jul-17
Brexit2019? That's telling ^^
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Wait, the Kriegsmarine Leica is a different account:

Brexit2019? That's telling ^^

Yes, he has several accounts. Google them and you will find people warning for this seller, so it's no wonder that he changes his account names often.
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All I know is that this crook has ruined a nice Kiev IIIa camera and now a Zorki 6 with his laser engraver and lens beauty ring gouge-out chisel that must be as sharp as a butter knife.
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