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Old 03-30-2018   #1
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LTM wide angle recommendations

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I am after chasing down a wide angle lens for my IIIg, IIIc and bessa R, mainly for shooting the cricket grounds l shall visit this year, what would you recommend, l was thinking along the lines of a Voigtlander 25mm snapshot etc, what would you recommend Thanks in advance for any help received
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The little VC Skopar 28/3.5 is an awesome wideangle lens, very compact and solid, with outstanding optical qualities.
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With my IIIf I am using a Canon 28 mm f/2.8

Like the one pictured below... my version is marked in meters

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Part of the question is which focal length do you need. 25mm snapshot skopar is a good lens for wide angle of buildings and cityscapes. 28mm is not wide enough for that purpose, arguably.
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The 21mm f/4 Color-Skopar is also a fine lens. Hell, pick any Voigtlander screw mount lens in the focal length of your choice and you'll be happy.
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both mentioned Voigtlaender, the 4/21 and 4/25, are very good and recommendable lenses
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The little VC Skopar 28/3.5 is an awesome wideangle lens, very compact and solid, with outstanding optical qualities.

Many thanks, 28mm with 74 degrees of coverage is what l am used to using my SLR
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I have the 21 2.8 Avalon (Kobalux) in LTM. Much better than my VC 21 4.0 in M moun, which is supposedly better than the earlier VC 21 4.0 in LTM. All these lenses are far and away better than the early Leica 21mm lenses. Only downside is the 2.8 lens is huge on the IIIf.
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With my IIIf I am using a Canon 28 mm f/2.8

Like the one pictured below... my version is marked in meters

http://global.canon/en/c-museum/product/s36.html
Thanks they seem to generate quite a price in the UK at the moment
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Part of the question is which focal length do you need. 25mm snapshot skopar is a good lens for wide angle of buildings and cityscapes. 28mm is not wide enough for that purpose, arguably.
Cheers for the reply, l plan to carry one of my leicas with me when l watch cricket this season and plan to shoot images of the cricket grounds l visit, so 28mm and wider would be good
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The 21mm f/4 Color-Skopar is also a fine lens. Hell, pick any Voigtlander screw mount lens in the focal length of your choice and you'll be happy.
Thanks, I already own a CV 50 Nokton, very nice glass
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both mentioned Voigtlaender, the 4/21 and 4/25, are very good and recommendable lenses
the 25/4 seems to go for fair prices just got to be lucky to be in the right place at the right time to bid
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I have the 21 2.8 Avalon (Kobalux) in LTM. Much better than my VC 21 4.0 in M moun, which is supposedly better than the earlier VC 21 4.0 in LTM. All these lenses are far and away better than the early Leica 21mm lenses. Only downside is the 2.8 lens is huge on the IIIf.
thanks for the recommendation l must admit l was unaware of the existence of the Avalon, it sounds an interesting lens
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thanks for the recommendation l must admit l was unaware of the existence of the Avalon, it sounds an interesting lens
There is a write up on the Cameraquest site on the Kobalux lens, same lens as my Avenon.
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There is a write up on the Cameraquest site on the Kobalux lens, same lens as my Avenon.
will head off there now and read the review many thanks
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There's a CV 21/4 in the classifieds right now. You might want to check it out.
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There's a CV 21/4 in the classifieds right now. You might want to check it out.
thanks do you have a link
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I have the VC 25, the Canon 28mm f3.5 and the Nikkor 28mm f3.5 all in LTM. They are all very nice but I am not a 25mm person. The little Canon is a wonderful lens and its finder is nice, a good value. The Nikkor is quite good but more expensive, uses hard to find 34.5mm filters and do not bother with the Nikkor 2.8cm finder. I mostly use the Nikkor with a VC 28mm finder but I must admit the Canon 28mm f3.5 and finder is a good lens and good value. Joe
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FYI, if it's of interest I've got a 21mm viewfinder in the classifieds right now. Sometimes you can find lenses without finders for a good bit cheaper than the lens and finder kit (that's how I got mine).
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I'm not into cricket. How close you are watching it? On the bench, at some distance from the field? What are you trying to catch? Feel on the field overall or some particular moments of the game?

All I'm trying to say is - same question should arise - I'm I close enough? And wider lens goes, closer you should get. Overwise you'll just report weather, with nothing but huge chunk of sky in the frame...
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The original CV 25/4 ltm is tiny and very sharp. It is a great lens. I also use a Kobalux 28/3.5 ltm. It renders colors like pastel with films like Reala. A beautiful lens overall.
A hard to find ltm lens is the Canon 35/1.5, while the Canon 35/2 is an awesome lens overall.
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There's a CV 21/4 in the classifieds right now. You might want to check it out.
That's my lens. M mount, not LTM.
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a flickr group dedicated to the Snapshot Skopar f4/25mm, with discussions on various cameras used: https://www.flickr.com/groups/25mm/
it's photos: https://www.flickr.com/groups/25mm/pool/
a presentation I had made in another forum: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,...4.html#1351604
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"Snapshot" Skopar 25mm F4 LTM. It comes with a finder.

1. Just want to be sure the OP realises that this is a scale focus lens.
2. Looks great on my Leica IIIf, but the finder is wide and it obscures the shutter speed indicator arrow (minor inconvenience)

Would be a great lens for snapping Rugby action when it moves toward the sideline where you are standing
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a flickr group dedicated to the Snapshot Skopar f4/25mm, with discussions on various cameras used: https://www.flickr.com/groups/25mm/
it's photos: https://www.flickr.com/groups/25mm/pool/
a presentation I had made in another forum: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,...4.html#1351604
Really nice photos Kuuan, especially on the Ricoh. With the crop factor that would be 37.5mm?
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The CV25 is excellent . I only sold mine when I bought the CV28 (and also had a ZM25 ) Both the CV25 and CV28 are very sharp lens that handle nicely. The CV25 is as noted, zone focus. In some ways I regret selling the CV25 but in the end really couldn’t justify two 25mm lens and a 28mm.
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I think the 21 in the classified is the M version
sadly it is otherwise l would have snapped it up
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I cycle past this every day on my way to work, although l live in Durham, I work in Newcastle and the Angel of the North is very close to my heart as i was born and bread in Gateshead, the angels home
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I have the VC 25, the Canon 28mm f3.5 and the Nikkor 28mm f3.5 all in LTM. They are all very nice but I am not a 25mm person. The little Canon is a wonderful lens and its finder is nice, a good value. The Nikkor is quite good but more expensive, uses hard to find 34.5mm filters and do not bother with the Nikkor 2.8cm finder. I mostly use the Nikkor with a VC 28mm finder but I must admit the Canon 28mm f3.5 and finder is a good lens and good value. Joe
thank you for this informative reply, a feast of information
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I'm not into cricket. How close you are watching it? On the bench, at some distance from the field? What are you trying to catch? Feel on the field overall or some particular moments of the game?

All I'm trying to say is - same question should arise - I'm I close enough? And wider lens goes, closer you should get. Overwise you'll just report weather, with nothing but huge chunk of sky in the frame...
I basically want to get as much of the cricket ground in the image, not so much the action of the game
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The original CV 25/4 ltm is tiny and very sharp. It is a great lens. I also use a Kobalux 28/3.5 ltm. It renders colors like pastel with films like Reala. A beautiful lens overall.
A hard to find ltm lens is the Canon 35/1.5, while the Canon 35/2 is an awesome lens overall.
thanks Raid the Kobalux sounds very interesting
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a flickr group dedicated to the Snapshot Skopar f4/25mm, with discussions on various cameras used: https://www.flickr.com/groups/25mm/
it's photos: https://www.flickr.com/groups/25mm/pool/
a presentation I had made in another forum: http://forum.mflenses.com/viewtopic,...4.html#1351604
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Also will f4 be fast enough.
probably not knowing the British weather during cricket season
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"Snapshot" Skopar 25mm F4 LTM. It comes with a finder.

1. Just want to be sure the OP realises that this is a scale focus lens.
2. Looks great on my Leica IIIf, but the finder is wide and it obscures the shutter speed indicator arrow (minor inconvenience)

Would be a great lens for snapping Rugby action when it moves toward the sideline where you are standing
the snapshot is most probablty the route l will go, yes l realise its a scale focus lens, l am more than happy with scale focus, (My Rollei 35 might get envious though).
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The CV25 is excellent . I only sold mine when I bought the CV28 (and also had a ZM25 ) Both the CV25 and CV28 are very sharp lens that handle nicely. The CV25 is as noted, zone focus. In some ways I regret selling the CV25 but in the end really couldn’t justify two 25mm lens and a 28mm.
many thanks, l wish l had a pound for every time l have regretted selling a lens, sadly far too many lenses have gone that l have later regretted
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very nice indeed
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