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Old 02-08-2018   #1
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xe3 amazing little camera

i am loving this camera the more that i use it.
it's nice and small yet feels comfortable in the hand no matter which lens is mounted on it. i have used the 55-200 with the same ease as the 27! honestly...
i do have a third party grip on it but that only makes it more comfortable...but the camera does not require a thumb rest or even a soft touch shutter button...
i carry it every day and everywhere i go...with the 27 mounted it looks like a toy and has to be the least threatening camera out there.
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"365" is the proof of it!

But honestly, I like every small camera ever made with VF in the corner.
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I got the factory grip when I got mine and like you, it's a constant companion with either the 27 or mostly the 18.
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Ditto on the factory grip...makes a nice difference for my hands... as did programming ISO to the rear dial. I use the 18/2, 23/2, or the 35/2 mostly on it for a very nice small street kit. Love the joystick! Seems like the poor man's X-Pro2.

Edit... wish they had left the flash and the D-pad from the X-E2s in it.
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i don't miss the d-pad at all...the joystick does most things easily and with extra thumb room. sometimes i put the tiny supplied flash on the body and hardly know it's there.
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"365" is the proof of it!


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Really enjoying the 365, keep it up
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Really enjoying the 365, keep it up
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"365" is the proof of it!

But honestly, I like every small camera ever made with VF in the corner.
thanks...i also like small cameras especially the older i get!
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Sold my XE-3, bought a X-Pro2 and regretted. I strongly feel the former is the better camera, despite its slightly more plastic build quality.
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Sold my XE-3, bought a X-Pro2 and regretted. I strongly feel the former is the better camera, despite its slightly more plastic build quality.
Curious why. Can you tell us more? Thanks.
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Some tog blogger on youtube says with the same image quality as the XPro2, it is way better value.


Edit:... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCjp-6lhcA&t=320s
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Curious why. Can you tell us more? Thanks.
Having used both the X100F and X-Pro2, I found the OVF to be redundant. You blame yourself and try to compensate for parallax manually when shooting with a M, but you know the camera could do better when using an X. I understand it's the defining feature of the X cameras, but the sophistication they managed with the finder just doesn't appeal to me (they used to look really nice on paper, until I spent time with one). I feel I'm the type that would fall in love with a simpified EVF-only X100.

The X-E3 is smaller, has Bluetooth (not very useful for now) and USB charging (a deal breaker for me). The EVF is marginally larger than the X-Pro2's.

The X-E3 ergonmoics is further down the evolutionary road, while the X-Pro2 still carries traits from previous X cameras. The shallow Q and AF-L button on the thumb rest and the hard-to-press rear dial could testify to this.

Being weather sealed, the X-Pro2 does have superior build quality - my X-E3 would squeak with the front panel being pressed hard and its operations feel (more precisely, sound) less snappy than the flagship. But again it's so much cheaper, smaller and lighter...

It's like comparing the Nikon F100 to the F5. In the end I sold all and bought a Q (which I sold quickly as well, but that's another story). I think I'd get a X-T2 so I have a complete story to tell...
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Some tog blogger on youtube says with the same image quality as the XPro2, it is way better value.


Edit:... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCjp-6lhcA&t=320s
Yes, all aspects for rendering IQ will be essentially identical for both cameras. Most importantly, they both use dual, conversion-gain sensor technology.

However value propositions are highly subjective since we value different things. I paid extra for the X-Pro 2 because I value using the OVF/virtual rangefinder. I paid a premium for the X100T (compared to a XE-2 with the 27mm lens) for the same reason.
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Some tog blogger on youtube says with the same image quality as the XPro2, it is way better value.


Edit:... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCjp-6lhcA&t=320s
"Some tog blogger"
Ted puts out some great content
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"Some tog blogger"
Ted puts out some great content
lol...that's him.
Yes, he does.
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Probably better off comparing the x-e3 with the Sony a6300/6500 than the X pro2...
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What about the xe-3 picture quality?
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What about the xe-3 picture quality?
It has the same sensor as the X-Pro2 and X-T2 etc. Job done.
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What about the xe-3 picture quality?
What precisely is your concern?
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Having used both the X100F and X-Pro2, I found the OVF to be redundant...
Actually it's the EVF of the X100 and XPro that are redundant for me. I never use it.

I've grown to like EVF in other Fuji models for some purposes but the OVFs of the X100 and XPro models is the reason I own and use those cameras.

Why buy a camera with an OVF when you want an EVF? There are Fujis with EVFs that have the same image quality and almost the same handling characteristics.
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My concern is colour reproduction compared to DSLR cameras like Canon or Nikon with a 24 MP sensor.
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My concern is colour reproduction compared to DSLR cameras like Canon or Nikon with a 24 MP sensor.

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My concern is colour reproduction compared to DSLR cameras like Canon or Nikon with a 24 MP sensor.
Specific concern?
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My concern is colour reproduction compared to DSLR cameras like Canon or Nikon with a 24 MP sensor.
One of FUJIFILM's business groups develops and manufactures color-filter array film materials (link). I assume they use the highest quality materials in their cameras and fully leverage their technical expertise to optimize in-camera JPEG color rendering algorithms.

This could be why in-camera JPEG color rendering is perceived as one of FUJIFILM's strengths. Comparison with other brands is highly subjective. I don't use in-camera JPEGs, so I can't say anything else.

The potential for raw-file color rendering is high. I find the raw files to be flexible. Specifics depend highly on the software platform use to render the images. While I happen to be pleased with the 24 MP, Trans-III's raw-file color rendering. However, my post-production color rendering workflow and parameter choices are very different than I used with Nikon.
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Tell me more, willie plz
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Actually it's the EVF of the X100 and XPro that are redundant for me. I never use it.

I've grown to like EVF in other Fuji models for some purposes but the OVFs of the X100 and XPro models is the reason I own and use those cameras.

Why buy a camera with an OVF when you want an EVF? There are Fujis with EVFs that have the same image quality and almost the same handling characteristics.
"Why buy a camera with an OVF when you want an EVF?" That's an excellent question. Personally - it's because I didn't know. Having shot with rangefinders for years and had never used a (modern) EVF before, I went without hesitation for the cameras that have the OVF, and found instead the EVF do work well after all.

The same question applies to the maker. Why MAKE the camera that have BOTH if you only want one, so we end up with redundant features like the EVF (in your case) or the OVF (in my case)? Like I said before, I'd happily buy a X100 with only the EVF (and had bought the Q, the closest thing); I'd also buy maybe two copies if they'd ever make a X100 with only the OVF. Knowing it's not gonna happen any time sooner, I ended up with some M and a Hexar - no complain on those whatsoever.

I wish (vainly, I know) as the X100 and X-Pro cameras carry the defining character of the X series, they could come with more characteristics, be more eccentric, and focused. Like how the Nikon Df should have been - a real digital FM, not just the styling. Not the hybrid something (hats off to their effort though) that couldn't decide which way it should go. I mean Fuji already have the do-it-all X-T for the working pros right?
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Ok, I’ve done a 180 on this camera. I think I will sell my X-T2 and get one. All in with RF shaped bodies.
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^on the fence of jumping back to Fuji again, especially the X-E3.
have a XC 16-50 II on its way and Joe's X-E1.

Debating on selling my Loxia 21mm to fund a X-E3 and maybe a XF 23mm for my digital need, will be keeping the A7 for my FF need with my legacy lenses.
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Ok, I’ve done a 180 on this camera. I think I will sell my X-T2 and get one. All in with RF shaped bodies.
suprising...i look forward to hearing your impressions.
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X-e3

I had a chance to handle one in the store a couple weeks back, with the grip. I was thoroughly impressed with it in hand.
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Ok, I’ve done a 180 on this camera. I think I will sell my X-T2 and get one. All in with RF shaped bodies.
Interesting... care to explain why? Is it only the RF shape, or is there something more to it than that?
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suprising...i look forward to hearing your impressions.
You know my current deal... could be months! ;(
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Interesting... care to explain why? Is it only the RF shape, or is there something more to it than that?
Hmmm, nothing more than emotional feelings really. I prefer the X-Pro2 and X100F to the X-T2 ... the 3 cameras I currently use. I'd like a small ICL body, so that leaves me with the X-T20 or X-E3. The X-T20 just feels like a smaller X-T2 and I kind of fell in love with the simplicity of the X-E3 back. I just prefer my cameras to be shaped like a bar of soap... I hate grips. The X-H1 is the wrong direction for me... its release made me realize what I want from Fuji even more.
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You know my current deal... could be months! ;(
i have time...
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I have a question for those who have the X-E3 as well as the XT models--X-T1 and/or X-T2. Please advise on the size of the image and brightness and sharpness of the image in the EVF of the X-E3 in comparison. Has the EVF improved over the previous cameras in the XE series?

I was never very hot on EVFs until I bought an X-T1. The size, the sharpness, the brightness and the overall look of things through it sold me on EVF utility. I have an X-E2S that I keep as a backup for my main X-Pro1 cameras. I don't use the X-E2S much because the EVF is nowhere nearly as bright and sharp as that in the X-T1 and I prefer the X-T1 for that reason.
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Hmmm, nothing more than emotional feelings really. I prefer the X-Pro2 and X100F to the X-T2 ... the 3 cameras I currently use. I'd like a small ICL body, so that leaves me with the X-T20 or X-E3. The X-T20 just feels like a smaller X-T2 and I kind of fell in love with the simplicity of the X-E3 back. I just prefer my cameras to be shaped like a bar of soap... I hate grips. The X-H1 is the wrong direction for me... its release made me realize what I want from Fuji even more.
Thanks - I agree. I'm finding that the "simplicity" thing is playing an increasing role in my approach.

However, it seems that many (most?) manufacturers are stuck on the track of more-and-more features. I presume that they see it as the best - perhaps, only - way to grab their share of the market.
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I have a question for those who have the X-E3 as well as the XT models--X-T1 and/or X-T2. Please advise on the size of the image and brightness and sharpness of the image in the EVF of the X-E3 in comparison. Has the EVF improved over the previous cameras in the XE series?

I was never very hot on EVFs until I bought an X-T1. The size, the sharpness, the brightness and the overall look of things through it sold me on EVF utility. I have an X-E2S that I keep as a backup for my main X-Pro1 cameras. I don't use the X-E2S much because the EVF is nowhere nearly as bright and sharp as that in the X-T1 and I prefer the X-T1 for that reason.
I'm curious to hear feedback on this topic as well.

The Xt1/2 has that higher VF magnification which really can't be beat if that's what one is looking for.
If only XE3 had it as well !
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However, it seems that many (most?) manufacturers are stuck on the track of more-and-more features. I presume that they see it as the best - perhaps, only - way to grab their share of the market.
Yeah, there is a huge segment of the market who want pure specs even if they do not use them... if they don't have them, they feel that the purchase is inadequate. Go to a forum like dpreview and its full of people upset that a particular camera doesn't have a particular little feature. Also, they compare every camera to the perceived king of the mountain (which changes every time a new high end camera is released)...it is tiring. As if photography couldn't have been done with equipment from 5 years ago, now people NEED 42mp and F1.2 lenses that are SHARP.

The other side of the coin is those that are upset that last years model is no longer the king of cameras and has depreciated by half. Makes you wonder if they use the camera...or just talk about it.
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The other side of the coin is those that are upset that last years model is no longer the king of cameras and has depreciated by half. Makes you wonder if they use the camera...or just talk about it.
I totally agree.
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Yeah, there is a huge segment of the market who want pure specs even if they do not use them... if they don't have them, they feel that the purchase is inadequate. Go to a forum like dpreview and its full of people upset that a particular camera doesn't have a particular little feature. Also, they compare every camera to the perceived king of the mountain (which changes every time a new high end camera is released)...it is tiring. As if photography couldn't have been done with equipment from 5 years ago, now people NEED 42mp and F1.2 lenses that are SHARP.
I completely agree... and "tiring" is a good word to describe dpreview. I'd had enough of it, a long time ago, and I'd almost forgotten that it exists.
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