Finally l have my hands on a stepper IIIc
Old 09-25-2017   #1
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Finally l have my hands on a stepper IIIc

Finally l have my hands on s IIIc stepper, they have eluded me so far, serial number denotes 1941/2, interestingly it has a london camera store decal on the back, l wonder if after the war it ended up in their hands, they applied the store decal and sold it on, if only it could tell its life story. As you can imagine l am very happy to own it
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just found a link to Wallace and Heaton cameras London:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Heaton
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Very cool, congratulations.

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Very cool, congratulations.

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Beautiful camera! Congrats---
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What's a stepper?

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There is a raised step underneath the rewind clutch release lever. It makes it a rare variant
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Beautiful camera! Congrats---
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...and a step beneath the rewind knob...
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Black or red curtains?
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There is a raised step underneath the rewind clutch release lever. It makes it a rare variant
thank you for the help with regards to the definition
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...and a step beneath the rewind knob...

many thanks
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Black or red curtains?
sadly not red
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Nice one, Mike.

They ran out of red curtain material somewhere in 1941. It could also be that the glue/rubber has soaked to into the red material and turned it black (if they haven't been replaced). I have a 1941 IIIc like that.
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As a 'young person' I was a Wallace Heaton (Bond Street) customer. My III came from there in 1965. I remember a dark wood panelled room down a few stairs at the back, this was the second hand department.

Nowadays it would be called 'previously owned' or even 'previously cherished'. Bah!
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Nice one, Mike.

They ran out of red curtain material somewhere in 1941. It could also be that the glue/rubber has soaked to into the red material and turned it black (if they haven't been replaced). I have a 1941 IIIc like that.
Many thanks, l could not believe that l picked it up for £130 which l feel is a very good deal. I could be wrong but l feel IIIc steppers are still quite hard to find,
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As a 'young person' I was a Wallace Heaton (Bond Street) customer. My III came from there in 1965. I remember a dark wood panelled room down a few stairs at the back, this was the second hand department.

Nowadays it would be called 'previously owned' or even 'previously cherished'. Bah!
Yes, l can relate to that, my Saturdays in the late 1970s were spent visiting the secondhand departments of various camera shops in Newcastle upon Tyne, happy days
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Congratulations on your new IIIc. I have a 1941 "stepper" in the 383xxx serial range which I purchased along with a 1940 Summitar 563xxx serial number. The IIIc "stepper" is a variation that I am very fond of. Together with the Summitar it is a perfect photo machine for my rangefinder taste. Here's to many years of enjoyable photog adventures.

p.s. Your camera's connection to the Wallace Heaton store comes with a Royalty Warrant which makes it even more interesting...
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Congratulations on your new IIIc. I have a 1941 "stepper" in the 383xxx serial range which I purchased along with a 1940 Summitar 563xxx serial number. The IIIc "stepper" is a variation that I am very fond of. Together with the Summitar it is a perfect photo machine for my rangefinder taste. Here's to many years of enjoyable photog adventures.
Thanks Mike for the reply, although l own a IIIg, my newly acquired IIIc stepper has really fired up my enthusiasm
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That's why a 1942 IIIc stepper is my go-to Leica
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That's why a 1942 IIIc stepper is my go-to Leica

I can see why, for some reason, and l do not have the words for that reason, my IIIc steeper seems a very magical camera. I am lucky its in very very good nick, cosmetically its amazing, mechanically, the rangefinder is contrasty and the faster shutter speeds seem ok, the slower ones are a little sticky, l will send it for a trip to Cameraworks for a shutter overhall
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Wouldn't all wartime production IIIc's be considered "steppers"?
I'm not sure how "rare" these are, other than the Grey of Military models.
I know I once had one with a K stamped on one of the shutter curtains and now the one I have is ser# 393XXX, I assume maybe finished in 1946?

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Yes, basically. Though, there are post-war ones made from wartime parts.

The next generation IIIc cameras underwent some redesign; which included the elimination of the step under the lever by heightening the top plate.

391xxx is from around Summer 1945, so 393xxx for 1946 would be right, if not very close.
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Yes, basically. Though, there are post-war ones made from wartime parts.

The next generation IIIc cameras underwent some redesign; which included the elimination of the step under the lever by heightening the top plate.

391xxx is from around Summer 1945, so 393xxx for 1946 would be right, if not very close.
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