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Old 06-12-2017   #1
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Taking pictures in laguna beach? 50$ per hour!

This is funny...

http://www.diyphotography.net/public...e-court-fines/
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And they have the audacity to hold a photo contest? Bwhahahaha

http://www.lagunabeachcity.net/cityh...st/default.htm
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Old 06-13-2017   #3
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Regarding the last two photos in the article (couples amongst the waves) - I don't know the specifics of US municipal law, but does the council actually have any jurisdiction if the photos are taken below the high-tide mark?
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I'm not surprised. We've been moving toward being a totalitarian police state fro some time now.
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I guess I will not take my tourist money there.
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Where is Laguna Beach?
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Where is Laguna Beach?
California:

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Old 06-13-2017   #9
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Where is Laguna Beach?
Kalifornia
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We have permits required in state/city parks here in Michigan, however those only impact commercial work. I have no issue with that as you are using property you do not own to make money.

This Laguna Beach story indicates this also impacts recreational/hobby photography which I just do not understand.
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Laguna what??

) so what, there'll b less cheesy veily waves ugly wedding shots of bridezillas and uncomfortable-looking grooms getting their pants wet and ruining shiny shoes.
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A few years ago, rumors spread in the "urban exploration" community that the city of Gary, Indiana was charging $50 for a "photography permit", necessary if one wanted to come into town and shoot its myriad of abandoned buildings. Trouble was, no one with the city knew anything about it.

I suspect the $50 was an extra fee dreamed up by a local guy who was leading photo shoots in Gary. Pay for the photo tour - and pay some more for the fake permit. Ingenious.
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The correct spelling should be Khalifornia or Caliphornia. But who am i to judge, I am just a Croat
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Old 06-13-2017   #14
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I used to have relatives in the area. It's a very trendy beach community. It's in Orange County.

There is speculation on "another network" that those who simply use hand-held cameras and take unobtrusive shots will not be hassled.

Some spell the name Californica. (/me puts on an old RHCP album and cranks it!)
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I had similar experiences in Beverley Hills at a family celebration!
WE were told that to snap pix in a park, reqd. a permit.
The fee was $750,for 1 hour.
Movie shoots only Hollywood could afford. $2500 per hour, plus insurance!
While I discussed this with Authorities, my girlfriend finished shoot!
We then crossed street to the house.
Yes! The family lived in Beverley Hills.
I worked in Laguna Beach.
I guess there are better beaches!
Corona Del Mar, Newport Beach and towards San Diego.
Best way, do not visit or waste your money.
It really a shame as its stunningly beautiful and truly great art dealers.
I guess what ya do about all the phone cameras..

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"However, if you plan a photo shoot in the City of Laguna Beach, whether commercial or non-commercial, be ready to file for a permit. Otherwise, you’ll need to pay a fine."

I think the issue here is defining what a photo shoot is. But the city I'm sure has no issue with writing the ticket and having you figure that out in front of a judge.

I'm sure this came about because the locals (rich) were sick and tired of the hoi poloi driving in from, gasp, inland areas with the sole intent to use 'their' (public) beach as a back drop.
In a way I don't blame them, places like this have become swarmed with photogs taking family/engagement/wedding/divorce/my kid graduated kindergarden shoots.
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Perhaps I should sell T-shirts here that say "Fu*k Laguna Beach!"
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Laguna Beach does have quite a few scenic spots, especially at sunset, and there are always engagement photo shoots by the cliffs, or at 1000 Steps or the beach itself against a backdrop of huge boulders. One of our favorite brunch restaurants (Las Brisas) is located in Laguna Beach, and they happen to have a gazebo on the cliff overlooking the beach. So what I do after brunch is stand within the gazebo (private property) and shoot to my heart's content. Now, if I want to shoot down at the beach itself, I just drive a little farther south to Dana Point.
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A few years ago my gf's niece asked if I would photograph their family at the Santa Ana train station. Just so they have some nice pics.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_...rtation_Center

All I had w me was my Leica M and a 50mm lens. I was chased off by a city worker who said I needed a permit. For me, my little rf camera, one lens, two parents and a kid.

How much would that be?
http://www.ci.santa-ana.ca.us/parks/...pesandfees.asp

$394 +$500 cleaning deposit.

Yeah....no. Went to Union Station in downtown LA which is a much better venue, and shot for free.
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Pros have it much worse..
http://goldengate.org/permits/filming_photography.php
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$1000-$2000 per day!

Laguna Beach is looking pretty sweet now!
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$1000-$2000 per day!

Laguna Beach is looking pretty sweet now!
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A permit to use a tripod in Central Park? It must cause jurisdictional disputes; which homeless community collects the money and issues the permits? But being New York City, perhaps understandable; they require permits to possess a firearm as well. So I guess they consider tripods weapons. I considered mine for that more in Korea than I did as a camera platform.

I remember hearing a few years ago that on US parks in Washington, DC (there are many, some of which aren't much bigger that a postage stamp) you would often be accosted for a permit if you carried a tripod. After all, only professionals use them I guess.

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Just be thankful you're not a human tripod.
Everywhere I go "You got a permit for that?"...
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And they have the audacity to hold a photo contest? Bwhahahaha

http://www.lagunabeachcity.net/cityh...st/default.htm
Sadly, I'll be there in July, you know the wife wants to go. It is a stuffy white coastal town in Southern California that has plenty of money, and in CA that means values of exclusion. They don't care if you come to spend, in fact the wish the opposite.

The photo contest is probably rigged so just the right PC people can enter.
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The city website has since been revised to require permits only for Professional or Commercial photo shoots.
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The city website has since been revised to require permits only for Professional or Commercial photo shoots.
Good.

This little excerpt from the original story:

"As Thien tells DIYP, his friend had a photo shoot using Canon 1DXII & 70-200 II, along with an assistant with OCF lighting and softbox. The ranger stopped him and asked for a permit, and issued him a citation. So now he’ll have to appear in court and pay a fine."

So it was a full on shoot w/ lighting gear etc. Do that, pay for the permit.
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A Rolleiflex in a paper bag will do it! )
I'll be there in July. With my Rollei. Without the paper bag. But I think I'm one of the few people on this thread who read the information on their website and understands it doesn't include the casual photographer NOT doing a photo shoot.

Can't blame Laguna Beach for wanting to generate city revenue from the constant traffic of photographers using the locale as their backdrop. It's one of the most picturesque coastlines in SoCal. Most photographers probably pass the fee onto their clients. If it's not by a pro, then it's just another cost absorbed into the event/announcement/holiday the photo is created for.
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Sadly, I'll be there in July, you know the wife wants to go. It is a stuffy white coastal town in Southern California that has plenty of money, and in CA that means values of exclusion. They don't care if you come to spend, in fact the wish the opposite.

The photo contest is probably rigged so just the right PC people can enter.
It's quite fumny that California is called "The Left Coast", but Orange County is (was?) rather the opposite, excepting of course Laguna Beach. Orange County has always been a home of the upper-middle class, and populated heavily by small business owners and such, particularly Newport Beach. But Laguna Beach belongs more to the self-entitled, who pretend to appreciate art, music, and "the finer things in life."

I grew up in the area, and miss it. But Laguna Beach long ago changed from what it once was, a quiet, residential, beachside town with great views to a trendy and artisitic "community" of busybodies.

Ironically enough, I visited there a couple of years ago and took a lot of photos. I don't think I'll go back.
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Rent-seeking by Govt/public authorities is nothing new. When they overstep the mark and try to sting Joe Citizen taking holiday snaps or pictures of his kids and enough people complain, they usually take a few steps backward.

Same thing happens here, Down Under.
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Being a local to Laguna I agree it can be stuffy for sure! But it definitely has its charms and it's really not a terrible place at all.

I'm always shooting around town and I've yet to be stopped but I'm going to definitely keep my eye out now!
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