Go Back   Rangefinderforum.com > Cameras / Gear / Photography > Digital Cameras > Digital Compacts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

GR as only vacation camera?
Old 05-26-2017   #1
MarkoKovacevic
Registered User
 
MarkoKovacevic is offline
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 512
GR as only vacation camera?

I'm heading to Indonesia later next month and was considering leaving my mirror less at home and just going with the GR. I was wondering if anyone's done this and your thoughts on it. Sometimes restrictions make you more creative.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #2
Archlich
Registered User
 
Archlich is offline
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,307
You'll be awesome.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #3
sevres_babylone
Registered User
 
sevres_babylone is offline
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,113
When I went to Vietnam for 2 weeks in January, the GR II was my primary camera, but I also brought an Olympus OM-1 with a 50mm and 85mm, in part for nostalgia reasons (it was the 40th anniversary of my last trip to southeast Asia, and I used an OM then.)

That said, I didn't use the 85mm as much as I thought I would. I used the GR more than 80% of the time. I do use the crop mode on it, more frequently the 35mm than the 47mm, but sometimes the latter; I had an R-D1 so 6mp doesn't scare me.

The GR is my favorite camera. I keep it in a pouch on my belt, and with snap mode can get ready to shoot quickly.

But I've always carried a back-up or second camera, even going back to film days. I would take a second camera of some sort. If something went wrong, I wouldn't want to have to scout out or pay for a second camera in Indonesia.

I did have a problem with my original GR early last year, where eventually the lens got stuck in an open position and wouldn't retract and the shutter wouldn't work. There was a discussion of this on DPReview and on Flickr (where I described my experience in the thread):
https://www.flickr.com/groups/ricohg...7655664854300/
(Just re-read that thread, and I see someone got theirs fixed in Yogyakarta!)

i bought a used X100T, but missed the GR so much that I bought a used GR II here on RFF, and when it came time to decide which camera to take on my trip had no hesitation taking the Ricoh.
__________________
Visit me at Pbase
and at Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #4
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is online now
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 46
Posts: 20,011
If you like to be up close to everything that you photograph and like a 28mm perspective, it'll be fine of course. Most of the world now uses 28mm to photograph.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #5
Ko.Fe.
Kostya Fedot
 
Ko.Fe.'s Avatar
 
Ko.Fe. is offline
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: MiltON.ONtario
Posts: 7,509
Cameras with 28mm or wider were common film P&S in eighties to nineties period. They were easy to made. Only two focus positions were required - close and else. My family used one for family pictures and on trips.

I would take small rocket bower and small micro-fiber towel to keep GR clean during the trip.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #6
craygc
Registered User
 
craygc is offline
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Melbourne, Victoria
Age: 59
Posts: 1,075
All I ever use for 90% of what I shoot in Indonesia is a 28mm, and I've frequently only used the GR. All this is Indonesia with the GR; or Asia in general with the GR
__________________
Craig Cooper
Australia
Photo Stream
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #7
Stuart John
Registered User
 
Stuart John's Avatar
 
Stuart John is offline
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Finland
Posts: 597
Well, I used just an X100 for a trip to Barcelona, having just one camera with a fixed lens was great in many ways as it free me up from thinking about gear but these day I would prefer something like a Panasonic GM1 with the small kit zoom. I actually had a GM with kit zoom but sadly I lost it, I used it for a few trips, the GM1 was great because it was so small and the zoom was really useful. I won't buy another to replace it so it's back to the X100 for travelling light.
__________________
http://www.flickr.com/photos/photogsjm/
http://www.sjmphotography.co.nr/

Canonet QL17, Canonet 28, Zorki C
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #8
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is online now
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 46
Posts: 20,011
Yeah, sometimes I travel with a X100(t or f) only as well. Depending on the country and how narrow the streets are, a GR or a X70 would be fine. If photography is the main reason for travel, then I bring a nice zoom. None of these options would suffer in the quality department which is the advantage.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #9
raid
Dad Photographer
 
raid's Avatar
 
raid is offline
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Florida
Posts: 30,887
Should work very well. Don't worry about "issues".
__________________
- Raid

________________


http://raid.smugmug.com/
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #10
BlackXList
Registered User
 
BlackXList is offline
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 756
I spent two months using only the GR abroad a little while back.

Had a full frame DSLR with me, but it never left the house because the GR is so good.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #11
dogberryjr
[Pithy phrase]
 
dogberryjr's Avatar
 
dogberryjr is offline
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Appalachia, USA
Posts: 1,164
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsrockit View Post
Most of the world now uses 28mm to photograph.
This is an interesting claim (and I'm not asking you to back it up). I tend to think (envision) in 50mm, but that might be an artifact of coming to photography in the 80s. My second prime lens--in 1987--was a 28mm, and I have yet to become comfortable with the perspective.
__________________
M, LTM, FD, F, Film, Digital, MF . . . Jack of all, master of none.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #12
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
 
ColSebastianMoran's Avatar
 
ColSebastianMoran is offline
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,364
Sony A6000 with the kit lens 16-50 zoom for a recent vacation. This did a fab job, given that I didn't want to carry a larger camera.

On a 2006 trip to Japan, took only a Panasonic LX-1. Yup, LX-1. Great photos.

The best camera for any shot is the one you have with you.
__________________
Col. Sebastian Moran, ret. (not really)

In Classifieds Now: Nothing.
Use this link to leave feedback for me.

Named "Best heavy-game shooter in the Eastern Empire." Clubs: Anglo-Indian, Tankerville, and Bagatelle Card Club.
Sony E/FE, Nikon dSLR, and iPhone digital. Misc film.
Birds, portraits, events, family. Mindfulness, reflection, creativity, and stance.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #13
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is online now
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 46
Posts: 20,011
Quote:
Originally Posted by dogberryjr View Post
This is an interesting claim (and I'm not asking you to back it up). I tend to think (envision) in 50mm, but that might be an artifact of coming to photography in the 80s. My second prime lens--in 1987--was a 28mm, and I have yet to become comfortable with the perspective.
Cellphones are the most popular cameras supposedly. They are generally 28mm. I'm a 50mm fan as well... it's the most comfortable for me.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #14
ColSebastianMoran
( IRL Richard Karash )
 
ColSebastianMoran's Avatar
 
ColSebastianMoran is offline
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,364
Quote:
Originally Posted by dogberryjr View Post
This is an interesting claim (and I'm not asking you to back it up). I tend to think (envision) in 50mm, but that might be an artifact of coming to photography in the 80s. My second prime lens--in 1987--was a 28mm, and I have yet to become comfortable with the perspective.
I am liking the iPhone 7 Plus a lot. Two lenses 28 and 56mm. Not a zoom, not digital zoom, but two built-in cameras.

28 is a great general use focal length for most everything except portraits. 56 isn't long, but much better for portraits.
__________________
Col. Sebastian Moran, ret. (not really)

In Classifieds Now: Nothing.
Use this link to leave feedback for me.

Named "Best heavy-game shooter in the Eastern Empire." Clubs: Anglo-Indian, Tankerville, and Bagatelle Card Club.
Sony E/FE, Nikon dSLR, and iPhone digital. Misc film.
Birds, portraits, events, family. Mindfulness, reflection, creativity, and stance.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #15
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is online now
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 46
Posts: 20,011
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColSebastianMoran View Post
I am liking the iPhone 7 Plus a lot. Two lenses 28 and 56mm. Not a zoom, not digital zoom, but two built-in cameras.

28 is a great general use focal length for most everything except portraits. 56 isn't long, but much better for portraits.
Yes, I was interested in the iPhone 7 plus and thought maybe it could be a cell phone camera that I actually would use (I have the 6 plus). However, it seems that you always have to choose the camera app and then hit 2x to get to 56mm. I was hoping that I could just hit the app and be at 56mm permanently. Why does this extra button push matter? Because I will miss photos that I generally can make with my regular camera.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2017   #16
sepiareverb
genius and moron
 
sepiareverb's Avatar
 
sepiareverb is offline
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: St Johnsbury VT
Posts: 8,325
I took nothing but the GR and an underwater P&S to st John this winter. Did fine.
__________________
-Bob
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-27-2017   #17
infrequent
Registered User
 
infrequent's Avatar
 
infrequent is offline
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 868
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsrockit View Post
Yes, I was interested in the iPhone 7 plus and thought maybe it could be a cell phone camera that I actually would use (I have the 6 plus). However, it seems that you always have to choose the camera app and then hit 2x to get to 56mm. I was hoping that I could just hit the app and be at 56mm permanently. Why does this extra button push matter? Because I will miss photos that I generally can make with my regular camera.
Yes the secondary (56mm) lens is only engaged if you choose the Portrait mode but in practice if its engaged, it typically stays in that mode until you change it back. For example if you picked Pano option and shot one, the next time you invoke the camera app it is in Pano mode. Presumably this will hold true until the app state memory is cleared or the phone is switched on/off.
__________________
x100s + BM 201 + iPhone 6s
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-27-2017   #18
infrequent
Registered User
 
infrequent's Avatar
 
infrequent is offline
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 868
There is a certain freedom with travelling with just one camera, one lens. I find that my x100s is a great option for travel purposes and I usually supplement it with my iPhone. Sevres_Babylone's thoughts above sound very familiar to the observations of most folks I have seen or heard.
__________________
x100s + BM 201 + iPhone 6s
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-27-2017   #19
jsrockit
Moderator
 
jsrockit's Avatar
 
jsrockit is online now
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Santiago, Chile
Age: 46
Posts: 20,011
Quote:
Originally Posted by infrequent View Post
Yes the secondary (56mm) lens is only engaged if you choose the Portrait mode but in practice if its engaged, it typically stays in that mode until you change it back. For example if you picked Pano option and shot one, the next time you invoke the camera app it is in Pano mode. Presumably this will hold true until the app state memory is cleared or the phone is switched on/off.
That hasn't been my experience with the iPhone's camera, but maybe I don't use it frequently enough for it to remember. Of course I tested the 7 plus in the store and it wouldn't even remember the 2x function when I hit the home button and immediately went back into the app. Really, I wanted it to work for me.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-27-2017   #20
Henry Schimke
Registered User
 
Henry Schimke is offline
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 45
Quote:
Originally Posted by infrequent View Post
Yes the secondary (56mm) lens is only engaged if you choose the Portrait mode but in practice if its engaged, it typically stays in that mode until you change it back. For example if you picked Pano option and shot one, the next time you invoke the camera app it is in Pano mode. Presumably this will hold true until the app state memory is cleared or the phone is switched on/off.

Perhaps a nitpick but: this is not true.
The secondary lens is engaged during two situations: when the camera is set to "zoom 2x", and when the camera is in "portrait mode". The functions of the two situations are different. During "Portrait Mode" both lenses are used and the software pretends to create blurred, out-of-focus areas behind the main subject (which it guesses at). The results really aren't bad, but you have to know what they are (given the size of the sensor and the fixed aperture basically everything is in focus). When any of the camera modes are selected besides "Portrait Mode" and the zoom is set to "2x" then the secondary lens is used alone. Only the primary lens has image stabilization built in, so in 2x mode this isn't available.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-27-2017   #21
infrequent
Registered User
 
infrequent's Avatar
 
infrequent is offline
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 868
Quote:
Originally Posted by Henry Schimke View Post
Perhaps a nitpick but: this is not true.
The secondary lens is engaged during two situations: when the camera is set to "zoom 2x", and when the camera is in "portrait mode". The functions of the two situations are different. During "Portrait Mode" both lenses are used and the software pretends to create blurred, out-of-focus areas behind the main subject (which it guesses at). The results really aren't bad, but you have to know what they are (given the size of the sensor and the fixed aperture basically everything is in focus). When any of the camera modes are selected besides "Portrait Mode" and the zoom is set to "2x" then the secondary lens is used alone. Only the primary lens has image stabilization built in, so in 2x mode this isn't available.
Yes...you are correct.
__________________
x100s + BM 201 + iPhone 6s
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-27-2017   #22
Aristophanes
Registered User
 
Aristophanes is offline
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 802
I bought the GR as my travel unit. So far, so good. Video is done on an iPhone.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-30-2017   #23
silent1
Registered User
 
silent1's Avatar
 
silent1 is offline
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Leiden, Netherland
Posts: 499
I used my GR alone on several trips and never regretted it.
It's my favorite trip photo setup.
With an Eye-Fi SD card, I can even upload some photos on social media for instant gratification.
__________________
stefanomattia.it
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-04-2017   #24
Tati
Registered User
 
Tati is offline
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 71
Ricoh also has a 21mm conversion lens for the GR. You do need to buy the adapter. The image quality is excellent. It changes the GR with additional size and weight but it isn't bad. An amazing, versatile combo in a tiny package. Also, depending on print size, the GR has 35 and 47 mm options. Less pixels. I think 10 and 6, but plenty depending on your final output.
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-04-2017   #25
Landberg
Registered User
 
Landberg is offline
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Sweden
Posts: 735
The GRII has been my only camera in New York x2, London x3, Greece, Spain and so on! Works great!
__________________
Instagram @landberg
rikardlandberg.com
flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-04-2017   #26
Archiver
Registered User
 
Archiver is offline
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,379
The only thing I would miss about only having the GR is the ability to shoot decent video. For this reason, my primary pocket camera is the Panasonic LX7, despite having a smaller sensor, and loving the GR so much. GR video is pretty bad compared with what other cameras can produce.

If video isn't a concern, and you are happy with 28, 35 and 47mm - thanks to crop mode - the GR would be a superb one-camera holiday solution. But it would be prudent to have a small backup camera just in case the GR fails during the trip.

Someone mentioned the 21mm adapter, and I second that. It's a great addition and will allow you to take photos that would be otherwise impossible with the GR alone.
__________________
~Loving Every Image Captured Always~
Archiver on flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 06-04-2017   #27
ktmrider
Registered User
 
ktmrider is offline
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: el paso, texas
Age: 66
Posts: 1,190
Don't have the GR but have no problem using my Fuji X70 as my only travel camera. There is something totally liberating about a small camera with fixed focal length.

So, I usually carry a X70 or M2/M5 with a 50 depending on my mood.
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-23-2017   #28
jazzwave
Registered User
 
jazzwave is offline
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 320
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkoKovacevic View Post
I'm heading to Indonesia later next month and was considering leaving my mirror less at home and just going with the GR. I was wondering if anyone's done this and your thoughts on it. Sometimes restrictions make you more creative.
Hi Marko,
I believe you finished your trip to Indonesia.
Would you share with us some pictures and experiences of use Ricoh GR only during this trip

~ron~
__________________
"It is significant that the greatest creative photographers use simple, basic equipment..." Ansel Adams, The Camera.

Last edited by jazzwave : 10-23-2017 at 22:33. Reason: .
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-23-2017   #29
Chris101
summicronia
 
Chris101's Avatar
 
Chris101 is offline
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Arizona
Posts: 4,374
GR or any camera is at its best if it is the only camera you have. In the same vein, having a single camera along on a vacation will result in your enjoying your time much more, as well as having fewer photographic decisions to make. This will result in your taking better pictures than you would if you spend your time making decisions about "which camera/lens to would be (slightly) better".
  Reply With Quote

Old 10-24-2017   #30
JoeLopez
Registered User
 
JoeLopez's Avatar
 
JoeLopez is offline
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Detroit, Michigan
Posts: 364
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkoKovacevic View Post
I'm heading to Indonesia later next month and was considering leaving my mirror less at home and just going with the GR. I was wondering if anyone's done this and your thoughts on it. Sometimes restrictions make you more creative.
You will be fine. My Nikon Coolpix A and X100 cameras have served me very well while travelling
__________________
Minolta A5 - acquired September 2018

Other gear: Minolta X-570, Nikon F3/T, N90s & D750, Fuji X100T
Nikkor 50mm f1.8, 28mm f2.8 E, Voigtlander 40mm f/2.0 Ultron SL, Minolta 45mm f2 & 50mm f1.7

My Flickr | My ebay | Instagram
  Reply With Quote

Old 11-09-2017   #31
MarkoKovacevic
Registered User
 
MarkoKovacevic is offline
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 512
Quote:
Originally Posted by jazzwave View Post
Hi Marko,
I believe you finished your trip to Indonesia.
Would you share with us some pictures and experiences of use Ricoh GR only during this trip

~ron~
Hey Ron,

For sure! I'm still in the process of editing through but I will post soon.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-15-2018   #32
Archiver
Registered User
 
Archiver is offline
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,379
Bumping this thread. Marko, how did it go with the GR in Indonesia as your only camera?
__________________
~Loving Every Image Captured Always~
Archiver on flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-16-2018   #33
Gary Sandhu
Registered User
 
Gary Sandhu's Avatar
 
Gary Sandhu is offline
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 499
Mine broke - lens stuck. I’d recommend you take a back up.
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-23-2018   #34
Landberg
Registered User
 
Landberg is offline
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Sweden
Posts: 735
GR is the best travel camera.
__________________
Instagram @landberg
rikardlandberg.com
flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-23-2018   #35
nightfly
Registered User
 
nightfly is offline
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,917
GR is great and I would take it over any APS-C or mirrorless alternative. I take mine on every trip. I once sold mine and tried a Fuji XE-2 with a 28 and regretted it. Fought with the metering the whole trip and sold it immediately on return and bought another GR.

However, I still find that I don't get as much satisfaction from shooting with it or from the photos I take with it as my M9. So if possible I bring them both.
  Reply With Quote

Old 04-25-2019   #36
novum
Registered User
 
novum's Avatar
 
novum is offline
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Austin/HCMC
Posts: 216
I was trying to find some nice pictures to show a friend that highlighted the performance of a Canon L zoom. I was surprised to find that most of the pictures I thought were taken with a full-frame DSLR were in fact taken with my wife's GR II. These were the "best" of our travel pictures. I use the Ricoh at least as much as she does.

I bought the GR II for her because I accidentally bounced her GRD III off of a granite rock. The flash door got cracked and didn't pop up correctly anymore, so I superglued it shut. She was not pleased, hence the upgrade.

Just noticed I'm a year late. :/

Last edited by novum : 04-25-2019 at 11:18. Reason: a little extra anecdote
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2019   #37
Archiver
Registered User
 
Archiver is offline
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,379
Mysteriously, @MarkoKovacevic made his last post in this thread, saying he was editing his photos from Indonesia and would post soon. That was almost two years ago...


The GR is one of only two cameras I've found that comes close to the M9 in both sharpness/detail and colour. The other is the Ricoh GXR-M module. The GR has even better highlight retention than the M9 as well, although it lacks the very fine gradation of colours that I see in the M9. As an everyday camera, it's more than excellent if you like 28mm.
__________________
~Loving Every Image Captured Always~
Archiver on flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 05-26-2019   #38
emraphoto
Registered User
 
emraphoto's Avatar
 
emraphoto is offline
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 3,659
For my needs, the GR is about as perfect as I can find. Exceptional prints, fantastic interface etc etc. The same could be said about a lot of cameras today. As Archiver has already demonstrated.

The question then becomes relative to the focal length. Is 28mm for you? For me, it works so well i use it (or the relative version) in 4x5 and 120
__________________
www.johndensky.ca
@eastofadelaide
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-03-2019   #39
Archiver
Registered User
 
Archiver is offline
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 1,379
I just wish my Ricoh cameras were more reliable. All have developed faults sooner than I would like. My first Ricoh GXR body bricked itself one day. It just wouldn't power up. GRD III lens block malfunctioned and had to be replaced, and is starting to play up again. GR shutter now gets stuck when the camera turns on.
If I was a going on a trip, I'd definitely take a backup if the GR was the main camera. At this time, it would be a Panasonic LX10 for the extra wide angle, zoom, and superb video.
__________________
~Loving Every Image Captured Always~
Archiver on flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 09-03-2019   #40
taffy
Registered User
 
taffy's Avatar
 
taffy is offline
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 267
I'm very fortunate that my GR2 has not failed me yet. As a vacation camera, I can recommend it. Some photos from a vacation:







__________________
My Gallery
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 18:54.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All content on this site is Copyright Protected and owned by its respective owner. You may link to content on this site but you may not reproduce any of it in whole or part without written consent from its owner.