Leica IIIB Lens Options
Old 05-04-2017   #1
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Leica IIIB Lens Options

I am looking to find another lens for my IIIB but I honestly don't even know where to start. Id like to go with a 35mm if possible but Id consider staying with a 50mm. Id rather not spend $1200 on a new setup so I was thinking of going with a non Leica lens.

I found an adapter to use my Nikkor 50mm but it seems you cant use the range finder with that setup?
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Old 05-04-2017   #2
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Indeed you can't.

Why do you want another lens? What do you want it to do that your present lens can't? Until you can answer that, it's impossible to decide what you want/need.

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Old 05-04-2017   #3
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Agree, otherwise, you will only get our own wishful ravings

Portrait? Landscape? Low light photography? Looking for a smaller lens? What r you looking for?

By the way, I also have/use a IIIb. Great camera, although most often than not I stick to a IIf. The slow speed dial kinda get on my way. Probably just the way I grip the camera or my finger are too long .

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I found an adapter to use my Nikkor 50mm but it seems you cant use the range finder with that setup?
I did not know that. What is the reason?

As far as I know, my Nikkor 50 LTM works on any camera I've tried it on.
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Old 05-04-2017   #5
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I bought the camera next to nothing a little while ago and the 50mm works but not very smoothly. You can see that it had been dropped at one point which bent the outer edge of the lens and I think tweaked something to cause the focus lever to get real tight at a certain point. Its not smooth but does work.

I like using the IIIb as my general walking around camera and I feel the 50mm is too tight. I like photographing people but would like more of the surroundings in frame.

Honestly thought about investing in a M2 and 35mm lens but I don't think I can justify the cost so I thought maybe I can run a 35 on the IIIb

The 50mm Nikkor I have is an F mount D series.
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Old 05-04-2017   #6
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LOL That it wasn't a M39 LTM slipped by me.

If it was me, I'd be looking at a 35mm. I agree; I find the 50mm is a bit too long for a carry-around camera.
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Old 05-04-2017   #7
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I bought the camera next to nothing a little while ago and the 50mm works but not very smoothly. You can see that it had been dropped at one point which bent the outer edge of the lens and I think tweaked something to cause the focus lever to get real tight at a certain point. Its not smooth but does work...
'It it with a 'ammer. Quite carefully, and a fairly small 'ammer; but you might be surprised at how successful this can be. Take it off the camera first!

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Old 05-04-2017   #8
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For a 35, SERIOUSLY consider the 35/2.5 Color Skopar. If the chassis was distorted too, the 35/1.7 Ultron (a superb lens) might be a little too demanding. Where are you?

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Agree with Roger. Also, you may consider a Summaron 35 f3.5. I own both the 35 and the 2.8 and I like 2.8 better, but it can be expensive.


Be patient and you may find a deal, like I did.

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Old 05-04-2017   #11
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Although it never gets much love, the original Leica 35 - the 3.5 Elmar - can give great results and is the least expensive of the LTM Leica 35s. I have one for my IIIa and the combo is truly pocketable.
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Any thoughts on the Jupiter lenses?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JUPITER-12-3...kAAOSw4CFYsIMK
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Old 05-04-2017   #13
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See if you can find one to try, or get the option to return one.
The FSU lenses won't mount on my IIIc, threads bind part way on.
May work on yours if the flange is worn enough.

[quote=AlTheKiller;2721220]Any thoughts on the Jupiter lenses?\

There is a 35mm Summar in the classifieds today.
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Any thoughts on the Jupiter lenses?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JUPITER-12-3...kAAOSw4CFYsIMK
I have Jupiter-12 as my first 35mm focal length, makes pretty pictures, then while spending too much time on the internet reading about Voigtlander 35mm (2.5/1.7), eventual I have them all (except the 1.4), and with the 2-3 fold more money compare with Jupiter-12, I can't see the different!

The only caveat for the Jupiter-12 is that the big rear element that you need to be careful about, and its aperture ring is the darnest thing on any lens ever produced interm of ergonomics.

If that bother you, you can get the Voigtlander color skopar like Roger suggested, then you don't need to get the Jupiter-12, it not, color skopar best bet.

Sooo... if you can get a Jupiter-12 for under $100 + ship, perfect! you don't need others (unless GAS attack, well then...)
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Our Head Bartender has a comprehensive list of Leica screw mount lens (aka LTM) options for your IIIb.
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The FSU lenses won't mount on my IIIc, threads bind part way on.
May work on yours if the flange is worn enough.
Maybe that explains why mine threads onto some of my cameras, but not others. Its a nice little lens though.
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Old 05-04-2017   #17
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So aside from the new lens, what else will I need if anything?
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The appropriate viewfinder for the focal length you choose.
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Although it never gets much love, the original Leica 35 - the 3.5 Elmar - can give great results and is the least expensive of the LTM Leica 35s. I have one for my IIIa and the combo is truly pocketable.
Thats a great lens for street photography, even smaller than Summaron.

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The appropriate viewfinder for the focal length you choose.
That's what I figured.

Is it possible to find a thumb advance lever to attach to the factory advance knob?
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Old 05-04-2017   #21
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Fascinating, two lens mentioned, both damaged and no one suggests repairs. Now guess what I'd recommend...

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. . . Is it possible to find a thumb advance lever to attach to the factory advance knob?
No. You'd need a ratcheted spring-return lever.

There is however an easy technique for rapid advance. Place your hand so that the knob is between the (spread) forefinger and thumb of your right hand. Drag the forefinger back smartly, all the way. The knob will advance the film fully.

You can buy a Leicavit trigger base for the IIIb (SCNOO) but an M-body would probably be cheaper.

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No. You'd need a ratcheted spring-return lever.

There is however an easy technique for rapid advance. Place your hand so that the knob is between the (spread) forefinger and thumb of your right hand. Drag the forefinger back smartly, all the way. The knob will advance the film fully.

You can buy a Leicavit trigger base for the IIIb (SCNOO) but an M-body would probably be cheaper.

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Thanks for the tip. Ill try it next time I am out shooting
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Thanks for the tip. Ill try it next time I am out shooting
It works. Hurts a little at first but the finger soon toughens up.

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FSU quality control on threads was woeful. Most though will mount to Leica but some wont. FSU cameras have same thread but more space: wriggle room or slop. My J12 is great on Leicas but the Industar 55/2.8 wont mount. Try and make sure you can return a misfit.
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FSU quality control on threads was woeful. Most though will mount to Leica but some wont. FSU cameras have same thread but more space: wriggle room or slop. My J12 is great on Leicas but the Industar 55/2.8 wont mount. Try and make sure you can return a misfit.
Hi,

A lot of different firms in the old USSR made lenses and so generalisations about them are usually unsound. The logo will tell you who actually made them.

Secondly, the age of the lens and - most important - the use or abuse it got from the previous owner or owners has a lot to do with its condition. A few ham fisted idiots over the last 80 years or so can do a lot of damage to a lens, even one made by Zeiss or Leitz...

And, if you read the instruction book, you'll find the lens mount is shown as having a thread of M39 x 1mm which is not the same as Leica's. So other people may well have damaged it by forcing it on another, wrong, camera body.

Add to this the rogue LTM to M bayonet adapters and you can see how the situation becomes further complicated; especially if the old hybrid thread was copied.

One of the things I like about the old Soviet system is the thoroughness; meaning I know the threads' size and pitch for filters and so on. That's more than you can say for a lot of camera makers.

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Sounds like you'd be happier selling the iiib and getting an m or a bessa r
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I just bought a Nikkor 35mm f3.5 LTM mount, a tiny lens that is perfect on a walk-about camera, it renders both black and white and colour very well.
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