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The SLR equivalent of a mechanical Leica M
Old 11-15-2016   #1
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The SLR equivalent of a mechanical Leica M

Always wondered about this one. Which one do people consider the SLR equivalent of the mechanical Leica M's?
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Leica SL...?
Well, it could be - i was expecting to hear a mechanical SLR but i suppose any opinion is just as valid if you think so.
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Olympus OM1n and/or Pentax MX

Just about the same size and a nice range of compact primes in both systems



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Probably any classic 35mm SLR without a built-in meter.

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Olympus OM1n and/or Pentax MX

Just about the same size and a nice range of compact primes in both systems



+1. I get the same "vibe" from my MX as I do from my Leica M, just as an SLR I believe the MX to be the finest all-mechanical 35mm SLR of all time. Others are, of course, free to disagree, but the MX gets my hearty vote.
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Well, it could be - i was expecting to hear a mechanical SLR but i suppose any opinion is just as valid if you think so.
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Right. Thank you - it makes more sense. I though you were referring to the digital one.
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Maitani is said to have the Leica M in mind when he designed the Olympus OM-1. As we know it was briefly called the M-1 until Leitz complained. The Pentax MX was designed to be an OM-1 with a cople more features, so it would be in the running.

In terms of fit and finish, the Leicaflex SL which someone mentioned might fit. Or some model Alpa, which I have never seen in person, much less touched, but they're said to be impressive.

My choice for a combination size, bright viewfinder, and feeling of quality is the Leica R6.2. Too many red LEDs in the viewfinder, but otherwise it's small, feels solid, and has a nice bright viewfinder.
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An M is useful for nailing down floorboards, a 'proper' SL is excellent for hammering fenceposts into frozen ground.
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Always wondered about this one. Which one do people consider the SLR equivalent of the mechanical Leica M's?
Depends on how you want to consider "equivalent":
  • The Leicaflex, Leicaflex SL, and Leicaflex SL2 were Leica's own brand SLRs from 1964 to 1973ish, built to the same quality standards as the Leica M3 and M4, with Leica lenses to match. They are superbly made, superbly finished, solid machines of excellent quality and performance, and quite pricey in their day.
  • Yoshihisa Maitani's concept basis that became the Olympus OM-1 and OM System in 1972 was based on wanting an SLR camera of the same size, weight, and quiet operation—with complementary optical quality—as the Leica M. This concept of the compact mechanical SLR was later taken up by Pentax (MX) and Nikon (FM) as well.
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Om-1 or 1n,
All in all, price, availability and general reliability.
(What would you expect from 'Zuiko85')

If compactness and weight are not a consideration I think I'd choose a Nikon F2 with non metered prism.
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Old 11-15-2016   #16
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OM-1n gets another vote. OM-2 is less mechanical. Nikon F is the equivalent of a M5
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I'm happy considering my FM2 the equivalent of my M3. Others will disagree, which is fine by me also.
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Old 11-15-2016   #22
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Equivalent in what way?

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I am not a Leica person, but I thought of the mechanical Leica M as meter-less. If that isn't so, then the OM1 or the Pentax MX are no doubt good candidates. The Fujica ST 801 would also be a good candidate and it had a 1/2000 shutter speed as well. The ST 901 had both an electronically released shutter, and a mechanical shutter, but it only went from B, and 1/60 to 1/1000. Also an AP exposure system, so probably not what the OP is talking about.

Someone mentioned the Nikon F, but I seem to remember it was rather large. So was the compatible Canon. Again not what I thought the OP was looking for.

I know the OM1 is the one most people think of, but that is only because it was more heavily advertised than the ST 801 (and sold more), and the 801 did have a screw mount lens system. Did the Leica Ms also, or had they converted to bayonet by then? As I said, I am not a Leica person.
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The Nikon F.

Plus 1, esp with the plain prism.
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Nikon F is the equivalent of a M5
Only if you have a metered head on it.
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Olympus OM1n is widely acknowledged to be a good match. The lenses are compact and well designed and they focus in the same direction. Any single digit Olympus fits the bill but OM 1n or Om3 are the closest fit being mechanical.
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The Nikon F.
My choice as well - Nikon F or F2.
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Canon F-1 -- works without batteries, tough as nails, superb lenses.
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I have an admitted bias in favor of manual/mechanical cameras (like the Leica M) as opposed to automatic/electronic cameras (like all digital cameras). At one time I owned a Leica M and I also used the following manual/mechanical 35mm SLRs:

Nikon F with standard meterless prism
Nikon F2 with standard meterless prism
Nikon F2 titanium with standard meterless prism (my personal favorite)
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Olympus OM-3 and its variants (OM-3T and OM-3Ti)
Agree. Mechanical finest and pretty expensive
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When I read the OP's question, I think about a camera that has been everywhere and done everything. The SLR pro equivalent of the decades of M3,M2,M4. I'd say Nikon F. Tough as nails. Been all around the world as the quintessential SLR...from National Geographic to war correspondence. No other SLR really has that street cred.
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Leica SL...?
No question. They even smell the same.
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Size-wise> OM-1.

Quality-wise> Nikon F Plain Prism.

That-Hand-Crafted-Feeling> Leicaflex SL.

But then I prefer Nikon RFs, so take MHO with the usual grain of Kosher Salt.

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Nikon F2, an Improved Nikon F1. I use a plain prism on one of mine.

My R6 and R6.2 were quite nice.

I have learned to stay away from consumer grade cameras.
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What is "mechanical" in M and SLR? Shutter advance and shutter sound.
I'm not aware of any SLR with same advance level as in M, all SLRs I have tried have it different from M. Shutter sound... On M3 at 1/1000 it is quick kiss, no mirror. On 1 it is rattling of sand, still no mirror.
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Canon F-1 -- works without batteries, tough as nails, superb lenses.
I disagree. The F-1 is FAR too big and heavy.

I stick by my choice of the MX. As others have pointed out, it was designed to compete with the OMs, and I think it's a better camera. OM, slightly improved.

If you think an M equivalent SLR should be meterless, leave out the batteries.
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... meh.

What is "mechanical" in M and SLR? Shutter advance and shutter sound.
I'm not aware of any SLR with same advance level as in M, all SLRs I have tried have it different from M. Shutter sound... On M3 at 1/1000 it is quick kiss, no mirror. On 1 it is rattling of sand, still no mirror.
Of course, no SLR is ever going to be an M, nor is the reverse true. They were asking for a "user experience" standpoint.

It's like threads asking which 35 renders like a certain 50. None of them, because they aren't a fifty! But some of them produce a similar aesthetic.
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