high dollar ebay fake... ugly... US $1,699.99
Old 09-11-2016   #1
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high dollar ebay fake... ugly... US $1,699.99

http://www.ebay.com/itm/X1-Olympisch...MAAOSwHoFXrsfI
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Old 09-11-2016   #2
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But the seller has a 100% rating!...
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Wouldn't a real one in this condition at least be in the ~$10,000 range?

Still way too cheap to be real...
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Old 09-11-2016   #4
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From a Japanese seller with over two and a half thousand transactions and 100% positive feedback rating!
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It is beautiful, looks like new, is it new?
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It is beautiful, looks like new, is it new?

If fake, it is probably worth the asking price! ?
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*Appearance of the item* Relatively beautiful.

Thank you. That was a good chuckle.



I also like that they removed screws to unthread the helicoid to show the inside of the camera, rather than...unscrewing the lens.
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Some one is having ridiculous fun with a tarted up Zorki 1.
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About as bad as the joker who had a Minolta 16II listed for $999.00 as a BIN. I thought about telling him that if he moved the decimal two places to the left that would be about right for a BIN.
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Old 09-11-2016   #9
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Run a Completed Items search for "X1 Olympischen" and you'll see this isn't the seller's first attempt to offload.

Eventually a price will find its greater fool.
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Old 09-11-2016   #10
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The box is nice...and the lens cap is "real.
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But....it's unique! How many Leicas have a threaded shutter release?
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Old 09-12-2016   #12
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had a look simply out of interest as I see these warnings often.

I managed to read this

'Country/Region of Manufacture: Japan'

Surely anyone thinking of buying this would be well aware that it is a fake - anyone not aware would be guilty of failing in - 'due diligence'
His other listings seem quite genuine, listing descriptions of cameras that are not fully working, lens with fungus etc,etc.with prices to match.
In other words, nothing to see here.
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I have several of these which I have modified to get rid of some of the markings .
60 each .
They were from Moscow Photo some years ago - amazingly , considering they are bitsas they work exquisitely .
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I love the box!
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gonna share this...
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I was under the impression that a real Leica Berlin Olympics edition LTM body existed...after a round of Googling i'm not quite so sure anymore.

Did Leica ever make a commemorative body for the 1936 Olympics?
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I don't think Leitz ever put the German eagle engraving on a Leica. And that two-tone black & chrome color scheme? And the red engraving? And the threaded hole? Maybe eBay should be notified.
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Did Leica ever make a commemorative body for the 1936 Olympics?
Yes, they made the Leica R4 Jesse Owens 1936-1986 Olympic.
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zorki lens cap on first pic gave it away
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Maybe eBay should be notified.
ebay doesn't care. they only care about making the sale, and if there is a problem after that they will deal with it.

I've reported plenty of bogus items and they've done nothing. But mention that the seller has provided contact info/the ability to make the sale outside ebay then they will immediately shut it down.
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zorki lens cap on first pic gave it away
Whoa! missed that one. Its sure is screaming "fake"
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zorki lens cap on first pic gave it away
Dear Carlos,

Maybe that's why it's there? That and "Country of Origin: Japan" and so forth. It's entertainment value, that's all.

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I know that someone is gonna laugh at this ... but they are actually beautifully made !
Which seems overkill for a bitsa Zorki !!
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hahahha

It looks like a chrismas tree!!!

It screams "im a fake"

Paint style, poor engraving quality, tacky emblems and decorations, Industar aperture ring etc...

The lens is realeased by the focusing helicoid!!!!

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Das ist faken, ja?
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All those dumb individuals attempting to make some money off something wearing a svastika and any other nazi symbol should be put in a time machine capsule and sent for a winter 1944 holiday time in Auschwitz.

Then they would discover that the rarest of the rare is a genuine return ticket, not a faked Leica.
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And there is always the original Zorki s/n on the back...
Frankly, it's not difficult to detect this fake...
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All those dumb individuals attempting to make some money off something wearing a svastika and any other nazi symbol should be put in a time machine capsule and sent for a winter 1944 holiday time in Auschwitz.

Then they would discover that the rarest of the rare is a genuine return ticket, not a faked Leica.
IMO it's still an interesting piece of history. I don't see why a Berlin 1936 piece would be different than any other Leica limited edition body.

One can appreciate the value of a collectible camera without endorsing the period and political regime in which it was made. That said, I would feel sad if one was actually acquired by a neo-Nazi.
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This camera reminds me of the movie "The Producers"
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Another thing that give these away as fakes immediately is the fact that it would be "XI. Olympische Spiele" in German (without the n's).
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Wouldn't a real one in this condition at least be in the ~$10,000 range?

Still way too cheap to be real...
There is no real counterpart
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There is no real counterpart
Maybe there is: http://petapixel.com/2011/10/17/the-...s-photography/
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Maybe that's why it's there? That and "Country of Origin: Japan" and so forth. It's entertainment value, that's all.

Cheers,

R.
You're right Roger, I remember when I was buying some photo gear in Tokyo and wanted to trade my jupiter 12, reply was polite but very strict. They didn't deem this article worth keeping in the shop, they were not interested. On the other hand I wonder how many zorkis I are still out there without ww2 engraving. Soon price of nice zorki I with original engravings will match that of leica.
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Old 09-19-2016   #34
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Hi,

I do like this one and you get a Zorki lens cap with it...

http://www.studiolighting.net/items/...677727627.html

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Listing is taken down
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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/311688963456?rmvSB=true

"XI. Olympischen Spielen" isnt even proper German.

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I don't think Leitz ever put the German eagle engraving on a Leica.
Indeed they didn't. Any eagles (if any) and other military markings were put on by the respective military branches of service they were delivered to.
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