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Old 03-20-2015   #1
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question for knowledgeable canon dslr users

is there a big enough difference between the sl-1 and the t2i to worry about which one to buy used?
i'm thinking about getting a used dslr for the canon lenses i picked up recently and will be doing my normal type of shooting with it.
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The SL-1 is worth more for its newer computer, video auto focus, and action tracking focus.
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hey, joe, i have both. canon's sensor tech basically stagnated at the t2i, there really isn't much difference in output. i've used the t2i for years and never upgraded because the sensor tech never improved much. i only got the sl1 because it's a bit smaller and was very cheap.

so basically, not a big enough difference to worry, i use them interchangeably. i think the liveview may be quicker on the sl1, but i'm not sure because i don't use liveview much on those bodies.

ETA: mburns is correct, the t2i has an older processor, and it's actually a fairly old body that was released around 2010. in practice, used for photo, i haven't noticed a difference.
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i can get a t2i for $100. less than the sl-1 locally, private sales.
i like the tiny size of the sl-1...but the t2i has good reviews, slightly better than the sl-1 i think.
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fwiw, maybe rather than get a canon dslr, you should go crazy and try a sigma. it will both infuriate and awe you, lol. i think someone is selling one of the older (non-merill) models for really cheap on rff.
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the dp1x?
i was thinking something to use my canon lenses on besides the eos m...

actually, getting any camera body is a crazy notion atm...but here i am, thinking about it!!
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The 30D and 40D are so cheap, why not.

Never cared for the Rebels, to much plastic.

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i guess the idea of having another body to use your canon lens makes sense, although i'm not sure it adds to the capabilities you already have with the eos m and fuji.

yeah, i was thinking the dp1x. it's certainly a good-light-only device, but in good light, the results are different than anything you already have. and even though i have a merrill, the dp1x is taunting me (the older models are said to have a smoother output than the merrills), so if you buy it it will stop! lol
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i guess the idea of having another body to use your canon lens makes sense, although i'm not sure it adds to the capabilities you already have with the eos m and fuji.

yeah, i was thinking the dp1x. it's certainly a good-light-only device, but in good light, the results are different than anything you already have. and even though i have a merrill, the dp1x is taunting me (the older models are said to have a smoother output than the merrills), so if you buy it it will stop! lol
you are bad!

not sure how i feel about another camera...the more i think about it the more i think i should just take the little m/22 out for a walk!
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The 30D and 40D are so cheap, why not.

Never cared for the Rebels, to much plastic.

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i don't mind plastic...
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the more i think about it the more i think i should just take the little m/22 out for a walk!
that's the most sensible comment in this thread, lol. have fun.
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The 40D has a high contrast focus screen available from Canon. Nice for manual focus.
I used a 40D along side a 5D for a cuple years. Great little camera.
There is a 5Dc in the classified right now for a damn nice price.
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Bump for that 5Dc, in the classifieds.

Killer deal, Ive always wanted to try one, but ive long sold my L glass.
Slap on one of those tiny little 40mm pancakes they have, oh boy...
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Bump for that 5Dc, in the classifieds.

Killer deal, Ive always wanted to try one, but ive long sold my L glass.
Slap on one of those tiny little 40mm pancakes they have, oh boy...
actually, that was the plan...to find a nice home for my 40.
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FWIW the SL-1 (or 100D as we know it in Europe) has the same sensor and processor as your EOS-M so you'll get easily matched results when you go out with both.
In fact any recent Canon DSLR will be fine and give you no nasty surprises + the relief at using those nice lenses with a viewfinder is palpable!

When I sold off all my Samsung gear to go with the EOS-M I decided I needed a second body for telephoto use. Found a super bargain "refurbished" Rebel XSi (450D) which although supposedly old tech is great for the odd occasion when I need it.
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Well another vote for the 40D which is very good value for money. I am planning to sell my collection of pristine L glass but wondering whether RFF is the best place to do so. Any feedback from those members who have done so is most appreciated. Peter
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your post reminded me - the sl1 and eos m share the same battery, which is convenient.

about the 5dc, great camera. the 40mm will work great on it, but the 55-250 is an efs lens and won't work.
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while a good price the 5dc is more than i want to spend atm...using the same battery makes the sl-1 more attractive...
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5Dc will give you big viewfinder and FF for very low price.
But you have to check if your lenses aren't EF-S, but EF.

SL-1 is small and this might be the issue with *-button focusing, which is placed questionably at SL-1.
And focusing with Canon DSLR with shutter release button is kind of sucks to me.
It is one if the common question if someone is asking "why are my pictures are not in focus".
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Well another vote for the 40D which is very good value for money. I am planning to sell my collection of pristine L glass but wondering whether RFF is the best place to do so. Any feedback from those members who have done so is most appreciated. Peter
I've sold many things through the RFF classifieds, but for buying and selling Canon equipment, I've found the best place to be POTN. http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php

Classifieds are free, but you have to register if you're not a member.
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just located a t2i at about half price of the last one i was looking at!!
talk about cheap!
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The 5Dc with the 40mm pancake is seriously nice. I bought the 40mm about a year ago, and it has been virtually glued to my 5Dc ever since... my other lenses have barely got a look-in.

If the actual 40mm focal length (i.e. without crop factor) is your thing, it's a superb combination. The 5Dc - while it is now falling behind on the technology side of things - is still a superb performer. The sensor provides a 'look' which I have yet to see in the later 5D models (excellent though they are, in very many ways).
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actual 40 might just be my favourite focal length...if i had to choose one...
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actual 40 might just be my favourite focal length...if i had to choose one...
Mine too...!
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actual 40 might just be my favourite focal length...if i had to choose one...
So, the closest you'll get to that with Canon APSC cameras would be the new 24mm pancake.
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The 5Dc and that 40 seem made for each other. The camera in the classifieds is a good deal, too.
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I loved my 40D. Only 10mp, high iso is not great, but very fast and positive in use. Built like a tank.

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Joe the 5Dc's output is very nice to iso800 (and iso1600 for bw), but I seem to remember you like small and light camera bags? The Rebels are much easier to carry around but crop the FF lens's image circle, as Robin mentioned you'd need the 24 pancake on a Rebel to get close to the FOV of the 40 pancake on FF.
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i used a 40 on my rd1...factored out to about a 60 mm...loved it!
my canon 40 would make me happy on apsc sensor.
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went out today, trying on a few different used bodies and wound up without making a decision on them...didn't really care for any of them.
but i did try a new m lens, the 11-22 and now i really want that one!
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with much time for thinking (aka driving myself looney)...my thoughts lead me to wondering, what would i use more? a used canon 5d for my very nice 40 pancake lens or a nice new 11-22 for my used eos m camera?
i'm liking the m more and more but using a 40 on a ff sensor could be a blast too!
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-A later 5D does not have an off color display.

- I have given both the 40mm and 28mm lenses their extended residence on my 5D.

- And I work at neutralizing the Canon color bias. UFRaw post processing is very good for this camera, a genuinely faithful color matrix and faithful contrast.
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what i was thinking was using the 5d plus 40 for b&w only street shooting.
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Oh. There is some flare from my 40mm, so I try a short lens shade.
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Oh. There is some flare from my 40mm, so I try a short lens shade.
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what i was thinking was using the 5d plus 40 for b&w only street shooting.
Bad idea, to be honest. I stopped using 5DC for street photography a while ago. It is OK for scenery and still life, but once you are getting closer to people.... Kids after shutter bang will start to look around. Sutter is so loud, I almost have to ask to excuse me for not holding it.


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Joe the 5Dc's output is very nice to iso800 (and iso1600 for bw)...
Nothing is wrong with 1600 for colors. It is my default ISO for indoors.

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the currency exchange is gonna kill this deal anyway...400 usd = 500 cdn bucks...i would need to find a good deal in canada!
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I could see two on Kjiji right away. 450 and 590. In CAD, GTA.
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I could see two on Kjiji right away. 450 and 590. In CAD, GTA.
something closer would be helpful...better to check it out in person...
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How closer it could be, it is Toronto area.
Wait... I purchased my 5Dc a while ago and it was in ten minutes walk from my home, if not less. I guess, it was "something closer".
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