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The quietest SLR
Old 11-17-2014   #1
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The quietest SLR

For me the biggest difference between SLRs and rangefinders isn't so much the viewfinder, but the sound and mirror slap.

So what in your opinion is the most discreet SLR that you've used?
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Old 11-17-2014   #2
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Old 11-17-2014   #3
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Even though it has a motor advance, the Contax Aria is very descreetly quiet.
The mirror is barely noticable. Same for the Contax RX.
Mechanical Cameras I would say th OM's are as quiet as the get.
Still I would choose an Aria or RX. The shutter/mirror slap is inpercevable from the slight sound of the advance.
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It currently resides in the cupboard but my Sigma SD1M has the quietest shutter I've heard in an SLR or DSLR. How they made it so quiet I'm not sure but it makes about the same amount of sound as my M2 ... possibly less!
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This one is easy to answer -- the Canon EOS 7e had whisper quiet shutter and an effectively silent motor wind and rewind. Paired with a silent focusing lens, it is quite a combination. I love it with my Sigma 35mm Art.
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Canon eos30 without a doubt.
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Old 11-17-2014   #7
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My modified Nikon F makes absolutely zero noise. zero.
(Looking for a video I made of this)
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A Rangefinered F? My friend, Pete Smith, turned my shutter button into a two step process. First step takes the shot, then the second punch on the shutter button slaps the mirror. This allows me to, 1. Make my shot almost totally silent and 2. there is virtually no vibration, allowing me to shot at 1/15 or even 1/8 of a second without shake. After that I just press the shutter button again to allow me to advance the shot. Voila it really works very nicely. Of course I can always just shot the old fashion way by pressing the shutter button a little harder for the full deal. Cool?
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Old 11-17-2014   #9
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Another vote for the Elan 7 and the XD7
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Old 11-17-2014   #10
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A Rangefinered F? My friend, Pete Smith, turned my shutter button into a two step process. First step takes the shot, then the second punch on the shutter button slaps the mirror. This allows me to, 1. Make my shot almost totally silent and 2. there is virtually no vibration, allowing me to shot at 1/15 or even 1/8 of a second without shake. After that I just press the shutter button again to allow me to advance the shot. Voila it really works very nicely. Of course I can always just shot the old fashion way by pressing the shutter button a little harder for the full deal. Cool?
So the first press lifts the mirror and trips the shutter, then the second returns the mirror?
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Old 11-17-2014   #11
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Akiva, that sounds like a fabulous mod...
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Old 11-17-2014   #12
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Haven't tried all the models mentioned but the quietest SLR I have personally used is an Exa (original model) at it's 1/25 sec. shutter setting. The higher shutter speeds on that camera make more noise but 1/25 is very quiet.
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In my collection the quietest SLRs are an Exa, a Miranda D, and an Edixa Reflex (without intstant mirror return). None of these cameras is any louder than an RF with a focal plane shutter. I remember the Canon Pellix being very quiet too, but I haven't seen one in about ten years so I can't test this.
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So the first press lifts the mirror and trips the shutter, then the second returns the mirror?
... and how exactly would this reduce vibration?


Otherwise, Nikon F80/N80. At first I thought it wasn't working.
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Canon Pellix...but the last one I saw had a damaged mirror
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Old 11-17-2014   #16
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My vote goes to Sigma as well. Wish the camera would be equal in other respects as well.
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It does not reduce vibration at all, it only makes the F mirror slap not be part of the photo.

To reduce vibration the mod must add a button to pre-release the mirror, as was done on F as the "Questar" modification.

http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/pp/nikon/fcel.htm



Pete could do the Questar mod, but sadly he has passed away. There is really no one else I would trust with an F.
Sorry if I misunderstand, but this means it's a mirror lock up mode with a delayed mirror return?

My quietest SLR so far is the Contax RX, sound probably on par with an olympus stylus.
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Old 11-17-2014   #18
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Oly pen f?
Those are pretty loud in comparison to others mentioned.
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It does not reduce vibration at all, it only makes the F mirror slap not be part of the photo.
Well, that' exactly the ting I'm interested in. Care to explain how mirror down movement can be a part of the photo? I know nothing about Nikon F, but all slow motion videos of a dslr shutter/mirror movements I've seen show that mirror down movement only starts when shutter is fully closed. So, how can mirror slap be a part of the photo?
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Oly pen f?
No. My Pen FT is one of the loudest SLR's I own.

Some of the latest DSLRs are extremely quiet, for example EOS 6D in quiet mode. Among film SLRs, some of the Canon EOS models as noted. I think it was the 10S and especially the original Elan where Canon started to put really serious effort into this.

The Pentax MX is the least obtrusive of the mechanical SLRs I've used.
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Photographers doing critical work, especially macro work, etc., would lock the mirror in the up position to make an image. The slap of the mirror against the mirror box could indeed induce in camera vibration, reducing critical sharpness of the image.
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Nikon F6. When using previous mine, I found then my M7 noisy.
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Old 11-17-2014   #24
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So the first press lifts the mirror and trips the shutter, then the second returns the mirror?
Yes sir
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I've never used one, but what about the various cameras that were produced with semi-silvered non-moving pellicle mirrors (Canon Pellex, Nikon F2 Highspeed, F3H, and Canon EOS 1n RS)?
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The mirror goes down, the camera is now in a state of vibration, the shutter opens.
This is not what I was asking...

The mirror goes UP. There are vibrations. And the mod that kshapero describes doesn't do anything about that. After exposure the mirror goes DOWN, again vibrations but they do not affect the photo.

I guess we'll have to wait for kshapero to explain how his mod works.
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This is not what I was asking...

The mirror goes UP. There are vibrations. And the mod that kshapero describes doesn't do anything about that. After exposure the mirror goes DOWN, but they do not affect the photo.

I guess we'll have to wait for kshapero to explain how his mod works.
They already said what it does. But we're talking about noise, not camera vibration.
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They already said what it does. But we're talking about noise, not camera vibration.
...2. there is virtually no vibration, allowing me to shot at 1/15 or even 1/8 of a second without shake...
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I see, but to echo brbo, how does that make it so much quieter? What is happening seems to just be a staggering of the shutter cycle into two parts. There should be a whack as the mirror is raised, but there doesn't seem to be any such sound (only the mirror return has a clack)- is it extra damped or something?
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I think my Exakta VX500 is the noisiest in my collection. Praktiflex is also pretty noisy.
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I see, but to echo brbo, how does that make it so much quieter? What is happening seems to just be a staggering of the shutter cycle into two parts. There should be a whack as the mirror is raised, but there doesn't seem to be any such sound (only the mirror return has a clack)- is it extra damped or something?
Sorry mirror is not raised or slapped until the the next push on the shutter. Listen to the video.
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I have a minolta XD-7, a Pentax MX, an Olympus OM-1n and a Minolta X-700. Out of these, the Olympus is probably the quietest, followed closely by the XD-7.
As far as AF SLRs are concerned, the Canon EOS 5 is probably the quietest AF SLR I ever owned.
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Old 11-17-2014   #35
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The Leica R8 is pretty darn quiet to begin with and has the mirror pre-fire as a standard option. Click the switch and press one flips the mirror up and stops down the aperture, press two releases the shutter and cycles to the next frame.

The Olympus E-1 DSLR is about the quietest, smoothest operating SLR I've used. It's as quiet as my M4-2.

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Anything less than the Bronica S shutter is quiet to me
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Contax RX for manual focus SLRs. Nikon F/N80 for autofocus. Canon 6D in quiet mode is quieter than either.
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1. Canon EOS 1nRS
2. Canon EOS RT
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Sorry mirror is not raised or slapped until the the next push on the shutter. Listen to the video.
Then what does the first press do?
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Of the unmotorized SLRs I have used so far (Nikon F2, F3, FM2, FE2, FG-20), Pentax MX and Spotmatic, Olympus OM-1, the OM-1 is definitely the most discrete.

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