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Old 03-01-2019   #1
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Voigtlander lens announcements, including new 1.5/75mm M mount

Has anyone heard inklings of this lens before this announcement?
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/11...-mount?slide=7

I was always curious about the Leica 75mm f1.4 lens, but I've only shot a few frames with them. I know CV has produced at 75mm M lenses before, but I'm curious about this.
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Has anyone heard inklings of this lens before this announcement?
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/11...-mount?slide=7

I was always curious about the Leica 75mm f1.4 lens, but I've only shot a few frames with them. I know CV has produced at 75mm M lenses before, but I'm curious about this.
The problem that the older 75mm CVs have is their 0.9m MFD, it seems to be fixed in this one, going to 0.7m. It looks like it could be a winner.
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I haven't bought a new lens for 6-7 years despite the recent excellent offerings from CV but unless this 75mm is dog (doubtful), I'll be in the queue for it.
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How much will this lens cost me? When/where can I purchase it?

Having dealt with my 35 and 21 desires (partially met by CV), I have a long standing interest in a 75mm for my environmental portraiture. I have been using a 50 and a 90 for these images, and its obvious to me that 75 would be great. I keep thinking I can plunk down for a Leica summarit (the 2.5 version is adequate, but the 2.4 would be better....because of the 0.7m focus vs 0.9 for the 2.5 version). This new CV lens is faster and focuses to 0.7m. So, now I need to know how much and where/when it is available...
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Looks very good, probably will perform excellently... and that's a lot of glass!
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Call me superficial but deep down I am shallow. This is a gorgeous looking lens and if it's elements were made from old beer bottles I think I would still want one. Truth is I already own the 75mm f1.8. and like it very much except for its form factor- it is rather long and skinny. I know this should not make a difference and at one level it does not but like I said, deep down I am shallow. I guess most of us are to some extent which is why we prefer handsome looking cameras to a shoebox with a hole in one end and Leica M's to the Argus "brick". Well it's one reason.
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Good they dropped this too retro focus ring.
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Wondering how hard/easy it will be to focus at 1.4.
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Wondering how hard/easy it will be to focus at 1.4.
Impossible, itís an f/1.5!


Focusing a 75/1.5 will be the same as a 50/1.0. Really hard.
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Ah...in the original post it was announced at 1.4. Even at 1.5 it's going to be hard.
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Just how thin is the dof going to be at minimum focus distance wide open? 5mm? 10?
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Just how thin is the dof going to be at minimum focus distance wide open? 5mm? 10?
Yes, but think how striking it will look if you nail the focus?
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Maybe CV will introduce some new focal lengths for Leica M. A 17mm, 18mm or 19mm f/4.5 would give alternatives to present choices. Not that we've never seen these focal lengths before, just not in Leica mount. The 17mm setting of my 17-35mm Nikkor is very useful, but weighs a ton! Time for a small and handy ultrawide. I sold my 15mm CV in anticipation of getting the version 3. And I think I will.
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Maybe CV will introduce some new focal lengths for Leica M. A 17mm, 18mm or 19mm f/4.5 would give alternatives to present choices. Not that we've never seen these focal lengths before, just not in Leica mount. The 17mm setting of my 17-35mm Nikkor is very useful, but weighs a ton! Time for a small and handy ultrawide. I sold my 15mm CV in anticipation of getting the version 3. And I think I will.
The Leica Tri-Elmar-M 16-18-21mm f/4 ASPH covers all of these and is quite compact. It's also a brilliant performer. But it costs a bit. I don't use mine enough.

Anyway, this new 75mm looks lovely. I hope it performs on par with its looks, and I wonder what the price is. I doubt I'll be buying one—I already have the superb Summarit-M 75mm f/2.4 and don't need a faster 75—but it's nice to see new lenses coming on the marker.

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Good they dropped this too retro focus ring.
You can't get much more retro than manual focusing helioids. I've not found a solution for cleaning the deep grooves on old lenses so the half-smooth scalloped design is much more welcome.
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Looks like a good candidate for the addition of the Taab or the STEER.
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I got to play with the new Nokton 75/1.5 at CP+ yesterday. Was really surprised at how light it was. Certainly does not feel like there are seven lens elements stuffed inside the barrel, even though there are. It also seems quite compact for such a fast 75mm lens. Would be an easy lens to carry around all day. Focus throw also seemed fairly short, albeit precise. Certainly a nice option if the 75mm focal length is your thing.
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You can't get much more retro than manual focusing helioids. I've not found a solution for cleaning the deep grooves on old lenses so the half-smooth scalloped design is much more welcome.
Maybe a toothbrush, probably used dry to avoid getting any liquids into the lens?
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Here's a couple of pics snapped with the Nokton 75mm f1.5. The lens focused fine wide open on my MP 0.58. Bokeh looks very smooth too.

This is the friendly gentleman at the Cosina booth who gave me a run down on the technicals of the new lens.

Voigtlander Nokton 75mm F1.5 @ F1.5 by Jon, on Flickr


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Maybe a toothbrush, probably used dry to avoid getting any liquids into the lens?
If their lenses are anodised it should be okay. On vintage lenses that are only painted I think it is too rough and ruins the finish, particularly on edges. Normally I just disassemble those and soak them in warm water but sometimes I just want to clean them off quickly before taking them out to use.

I have a certain hate for diagonal metal knurling on tools too. Even weightlifters hadn't a good solution for cleaning them as fine knurling is common on some weightlifting gear too. Even worse are the metal mechanical pencils...
Soaking with a cloth and trying to rub between grooves doesn't seem to work as soft debris sticks between the metal surfaces.

My best solution thus far is a soaked wooden toothpick and running through the grooves one by one.
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Plenty of cats-eye vignette as I thought. Otherwise, looks quite sharp wide-open with good control of LOCA. The Cosina background colours are the one thing I hate about their lenses. I much prefer that if there is to be CA, that it be blue/green in the back and purple up front.
There's seem to be some kind lime/yellow/khaki in the back which is much closer to neutrality but just reminds me of cheap, old third-party lenses.

Did you happen to notice any 'onion-ring' aberration in the bokeh due to the aspherical?
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Oh man! My lens lust is at peak levels. My envy of certain individuals who get to handle and play with these lenses is at peak level too

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Here's a couple of pics snapped with the Nokton 75mm f1.5. The lens focused fine wide open on my MP 0.58. Bokeh looks very smooth too.

This is the friendly gentleman at the Cosina booth who gave me a run down on the technicals of the new lens.

Voigtlander Nokton 75mm F1.5 @ F1.5 by Jon, on Flickr


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Did you happen to notice any 'onion-ring' aberration in the bokeh due to the aspherical?
I'd like to know this too. I saw a couple other example images somewhere on the net. I think one of them included some of that point-light "bokeh ball" OOF in the image (I can't relocate them now). Seemed more "soap bubble" than onion ring, but I'm a poor judge of these things -- I freely admit ample ignorance about such details of lens performance.

What I've seen so far, in terms of example images and the lens itself, really piques my interest for this lens. I just hope it's not expensive. For me, it competes with a Summarit but I'm willing to push my budget just a tad for the speed here (1.5 vs. 2.4).
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I only handled the new 75/1.5 for a few minutes and shot just a few frames with it on my MP 0.58 loaded with Natura 1600 so not really enough info for judging colour rendition or onion rings.
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OK. I would dearly like to know when this lens is going to become available (Stephen?)?


As per agreement with a certain important person. Lens acquisitions are to be few and far between. This new 75 is very enticing and might be one of the far betweens, or not if CV takes their sweet time between announcing an awesome lens and making them available. There are a few other lenses I really like and I just sold a couple.....
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.... and no gad-awful stick to be found on this new 75. Whew
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OK. I would dearly like to know when this lens is going to become available (Stephen?)?


As per agreement with a certain important person. Lens acquisitions are to be few and far between. This new 75 is very enticing and might be one of the far betweens, or not if CV takes their sweet time between announcing an awesome lens and making them available. There are a few other lenses I really like and I just sold a couple.....
I've handled it. The new 75/1.5 is small, lightweight, great handling, with a very short close up to infinity throw. Gorgeous.
Small 58mm filter size.

No ETA or price info yet.

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Oh my God. That 75mm is one sexy looking lens. And f1.5, yum, yum yum. I will be pleased to see how it's images. Maybe my 75mm f1.8 could be on the chopping block.......in truth its a lovely lens with classic rendering but I do find it physically a bit long on the Leica M. So....maybe not and I just it suck up on the length issue. (For now)
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How outdated is the Summilux 75/1.4 when compared with the new CV lens?
Is the new CV optically somehow superior to the Lux?
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Jeez that is a gorgeous piece of metal and glass.
When not taking pics with it you might want to take pics of it.


It would make a heck of a two lens combo with a 35mm, 'Lux.
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Impossible, itís an f/1.5!


Focusing a 75/1.5 will be the same as a 50/1.0. Really hard.
Mount it on leica SL and you will nail focus every time.
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I've handled it. The new 75/1.5 is small, lightweight, great handling, with a very short close up to infinity throw. Gorgeous.
Small 58mm filter size.

No ETA or price info yet.

Stephen

Hi Stephen! Are you able to give an approximate idea of this lens' weight and size compared with the Leica Summarit 75mm or the current Voigtlander 75/1.8? I have the Summarit 75 and the LTM Voigtlander 75/2.5, and I'd love to add a fast but compact 75 to my gear.
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Mount it on leica SL and you will nail focus every time.

Yep, or a M240, M262 or M10. Any M mount camera with liveview will make it easy to nail focus with this lens, even the old Ricoh GXR-M.
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Jeez that is a gorgeous piece of metal and glass.
When not taking pics with it you might want to take pics of it.


It would make a heck of a two lens combo with a 35mm, 'Lux.
Something very reminiscent of the old Topcor lenses, which we know Mr. Kobayashi is a big fan of. Beautiful.

I like to think of myself as more of an 85/90 fan, but I could see myself using this a lot more, especially as a 25/35/75 combo. But when you need a 90, you need a 90, I guess...
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Hi Takkun,
By all means...why restrict to two - 25/35/75 sounds peachy!


You may be on to something with the Topcor family resemblance. Good eye.


SLRs like Alpa 9, Topcon Super D, Canon F-1, Zeiss Contarex, Nikon F ... top of the line models that were solid like a bank vault.


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Wow, another great looking Voigtlander lens from Cosina.

I like 35 and 75mm as a lens setup and were very happy to find a tiny, beautyful, black Color Heliar 2,5/75 these days (sold my silver one).

Now I have to think about a need for a bigger but f1.5 one ...
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Sales in Japan start in July, and Map Camera has priced it at 109,350 yen.

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Nice looking lenses. The 75 is kind of a sweet spot in the M line. Long enough for portrait work, but not quite requiring the minimum shutter speeds of a 90. I have two 75's, and I use them often. I find them very flattering to subjects, and great for head-and-shoulder shots.
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Impossible, itís an f/1.5!


Focusing a 75/1.5 will be the same as a 50/1.0. Really hard.
Yep. I had the 75/1.4 Summilux. It calls for an M3 that has been optimized for the lens. You send them in together to get the focus calibrated. But then you have a great lens!
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