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Old 03-19-2018   #1
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I have been looking at IIIg on the auction site and there are quite a few in very good to excellent condition with prices in the 700.00 to 1000.00, are these prices in the ball park or high, and do most of these show up in better than average condition.

What should I be on the lookout for as far as problems, I have a IIIf and had to have the shutter curtain replaced and serviced after I received it.

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Old 03-20-2018   #2
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Don, I have been keeping any eye open for a nice IIIg for several years now.

$600-$700 seems to be the going rate for body-only.

Can't speak about shutter curtains.

Unless you are getting the camera with recent, documented CLA by a competent tech (DAG, Sherry Krauter, etc.), I would plan / budget for additional work.

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Old 03-20-2018   #3
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Look out for fungus in the viewfinder/rangefinder.

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Old 03-20-2018   #4
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seems like the average price really. I've seen them lower and higher but in the recent film boom with prices and values of things going up I haven't seen too much of a change with iiig prices.
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I assume you're talking US Dollars? Even so it seems the higher end of the range, which isn't surprising, Ebay BIN almost always is, good offers are mostly gone immediately. Take a look at these: https://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/253-...erway=asc&n=10
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Old 03-20-2018   #6
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If you're buying through eBay, consider camera & lens kits - sometimes better deals can be found on these over just the body alone.

I really like my IIIg, but I also waited quite a while to find a bargain; current prices seem quite high, and I doubt they'll drop significantly any time soon. But you never know when a good deal might pop up.
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Old 03-20-2018   #7
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Been looking for another IIIg recently too. If I were paying 600-700 USD for a body I would steer away from ebay and go with one of the dealers, like Tamarkin or KEH who seem to have these from time to time. At that price it should serviced or at least have a warranty.

Ebay can range from amazing to absurd. On the absurd end: A body with holes in the curtains for $549. Or merely average ones from Japan for $1900 (and up).

A couple months ago there were several IIIgs with either Summicron or Elmar or even Summarit lenses that went in the $700-$1000 range. But it seems to be feast or famine. You'll see several like this in a row, then nothing for months. Of course I'd expect these to need service, but with a lens it is still a good deal. Patience is a virtue.
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Old 03-20-2018   #8
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My IIIG had some problems with shutter advance. It skips a frame every 2 frames. Not sure if it a common issue or not though.

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Old 03-20-2018   #9
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I bought a IIIg in exc+ condition from a well known UK dealer a while back and it functions perfectly with no major issues. I bought a IIIf from the same shop a few weeks ago and it had loads of fungus the viewfinder. It’s very hit and miss and depends on how much they were used and looked after. Selling the IIIg on eBay at the moment though for about USD600 as I tend to use my Contax G1 much more regularly.
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Old 03-21-2018   #10
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Thanks everyone

I bought a IIIg on bay at a BIN price of 550.00 shipped which appears to be in very good condition and the price is right if it needs a service I am still at about market
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Look out for fungus in the viewfinder/rangefinder.

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More so with the IIIg than with the IIIc or IIIf?
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Old 03-21-2018   #12
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Thanks everyone

I bought a IIIg on bay at a BIN price of 550.00 shipped which appears to be in very good condition and the price is right if it needs a service I am still at about market
You did well... makes me want one!
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Old 03-21-2018   #13
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More so with the IIIg than with the IIIc or IIIf?
I never had a IIIf, but I have most other Barnacks. Only my IIIg had severe fungus in the viewfinder.

The rangefinder and the viewfinder both had dull images. Peter from CRR Luton in England cleaned it for me and told me that the problem was caused by fungus.

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Old 03-22-2018   #14
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I see on Ebay the IIIg prices and they do vary. It is a wonderful camera and I should use mine more. I carried my IIIf a couple of weeks ago and people stopped me to ask what kind of camera it was. People are so use to seeing digital and phones used to taking pictures that film cameras look so exotic to many people that have never seen one. I am speaking of younger people.

Anyway I will load up my IIIg next to shoot with it and its Summicron 50/2.

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Old 03-22-2018   #15
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It certainly is a great camera. The viewfinder is not as bright as those of the earlier versions but I had always assumed that was due to the extra optics. In any case, my viewfinder is fine. I use it with a Sonnar lens, either the Canon version or the Zeiss Contax version (fitted with an Amadeo adapter). The lenses produce near identical images but I favour the Canon lens in use. Neither lens intrudes into the viewfinder in a noticeable way. The problem is that I wear glasses and with this particular camera it's a case of 'the closer your eye is to the eyepiece, the better'. I therefore adapted an old SLR correction lens (I need -3 dioptres). I removed the correction lens from its frame and the eyepiece from the IIIG. I used some double sided foam tape having punched in it two holes of the right size. It works very well and I think its rectangular shape mirrors nicely the rectangular windows on the front of the camera.
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Old 03-24-2018   #16
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Well my "new" IIIg arrived today and I am very please with it, the speeds all sound good and The curtain looks good I could not see any light coming in but we will see after I get some decent weather and run a short roll through it. The viewfinder is clear and the rangefinder appears clear though is a little small as others have stated but very clean
I think I got a good deal for 550.00 shipped.



Anyway here are a couple of photos of it, the lens was mine.
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Old 03-24-2018   #17
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Well my "new" IIIg arrived today and I am very please with it, the speeds all sound good and The curtain looks good I could not see any light coming in but we will see after I get some decent weather and run a short roll through it. The viewfinder is clear and the rangefinder appears clear though is a little small as others have stated but very clean
I think I got a good deal for 550.00 shipped.
Looks beautiful, I am jealous.
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Old 03-24-2018   #18
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Yeah, that's a nice one, Don. I was looking today at a converted IIIC-to-F, and was really close to putting in the order until I looked up the serial number. Part of the early post-war models that have the issues with chrome (the fiftieth one down the line), so I passed. Unless someone can tell me that when the conversion is made, a new top is installed.

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Old 03-26-2018   #19
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Mac - I have a III-c/f BD / ST, 1949 body, not sure when the conversion was done... chrome is beautiful. Picked it up in Copenhagen on a trip to Denmark in 2014.

Will have to dig it out to find s/n.
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Old 03-26-2018   #20
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Don -

Your new -g looks very nice on the outside. I think you did well, given market-prices on this thing.

Hope it works as nice as it looks.

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Old 03-26-2018   #21
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Mac - I have a III-c/f BD / ST, 1949 body, not sure when the conversion was done... chrome is beautiful. Picked it up in Copenhagen on a trip to Denmark in 2014.

Will have to dig it out to find s/n.
After taking a closer look at the photos, it looks like the top was sand blasted, and re-chromed. There is also a bit of flaking between the shutter button, and the A-R lever.

I'm also looking at a G model that is losing its covering. I can always gaffer tape it.

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Old 03-26-2018   #22
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Mac - just exhumed my c/f BD ST.

s/n 44394x.

I think it has the original -c top plate. For the flash sync, a little sync scale plate was added underneath the shutter speed dial, with two little slotted-head screws adjacent the accessory shoe. Still reads: "Leica / D.R.P. / Ernst Leitz / Wetzlar / Germany"

Bottom-plate has 3/8 tripod socket, with a 1/4" bushing, bottom plate lock with tail, "open-auf" / "close-zu".

Chrome is excellent ( aside from some rubs ).
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Mac - just exhumed my c/f BD ST.

s/n 44394x.

I think it has the original -c top plate. For the flash sync, a little sync scale plate was added underneath the shutter speed dial, with two little slotted-head screws adjacent the accessory shoe. Still reads: "Leica / D.R.P. / Ernst Leitz / Wetzlar / Germany"

Bottom-plate has 3/8 tripod socket, with a 1/4" bushing, bottom plate lock with tail, "open-auf" / "close-zu".

Chrome is excellent ( aside from some rubs ).
The IIIC/F BD is from 1946, frank, just fifty numbers into the batch run. I've come across a true IIIF RD that looks better, and is from the '52-53 batch. That will likely happen before a IIIG, what with my budget.

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Old 03-26-2018   #24
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That might be dodgy, both for the Chrome and the curtains...

-g's have been out of reach for me... I keep hoping I will run across a lucky bargain someday...
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Old 03-26-2018   #25
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Thanks All

Here are a couple from the second short roll, the first roll i had an issue with the Pyrocat HD, not sure what happened, so I shot a second roll of Kentmere 100 developed in HC110, a little grainy I used Dil. B at 72 degrees

Pretty happy everything seems to work and the "new" Elmar 5cm 2.8 did good.

by Donald Harpold, on Flickr

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Damn, I sold a iiig for $400, to China, and buyer claimed he never got it... Looking at this thread, I'm full of regret
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Are you saying you regret for selling it for $400 or because you took a chance to send it to a country that leaves a lot of unknowns and no chance to really find out why it was not received? I have ordered cameras from Japan and Hong Kong and they always came in to me.
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Everything looks fine, Don. The Elmar is so good for such a simple lens.

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Old 03-29-2018   #29
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Thanks farlymac
I look forward to running some P30 through it
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Are you saying you regret for selling it for $400 or because you took a chance to send it to a country that leaves a lot of unknowns and no chance to really find out why it was not received? I have ordered cameras from Japan and Hong Kong and they always came in to me.
At this point, both

I have no problem with buying or selling to Japan, but I've had a real bad track record with China, and accounts registered in China (between someone claiming their camera got heavily brassed in transit (sold a iiif, owner shows me a pic of a heavily brassed iiic and tried to claim damage), and abnormally high bids from people with bogus feedback history (lots of buying the same $0.01 item over and over again), I'm done)

Also reminds me that I should CLA my IIIg and 2.8 elmar
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Old 05-13-2018   #31
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Hello
Bringing this one back up

I finished a roll of Film Ferrania P30 in the Leica IIIg with the Elmar 5cm 2.8

I really like this camera and lens.

Here are a couple of photos

Leica IIIg Elmar 2.8 Film Ferrania at 80asa Paranol S classic car 2 by Donald Harpold, on Flickr

Leica IIIg Elmar 2.8 Film Ferrania at 80asa Paranol S Cobra by Donald Harpold, on Flickr

Leica IIIg Elmar 2.8 Film Ferrania at 40asa Paranol S vent and stairwell by Donald Harpold, on Flickr

And here is the link to all the photos
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Great shots, enjoy your time with the IIIg they are very cool bits of kit
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