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Old 10-04-2014   #81
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Hello everyone and thanks for your support.
I hope you can furthermore share this with your friends an in other photo websites/forums / facebook etc because it would be truly a pity if they would miss it. Pledge 1$ less but let 1 more people of this. Italy is plagued with the worst crisis since WWII and every plant restarting means families able to get by and this is so valid for an historical company as Ferrania is. Thank you again
I've made my pledge. Watch the video of the team members. How could you not?

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Ah well, if they succeed then this'll be the most expensive eight roll of film I've ever bought.
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Ah well, if they succeed then this'll be the most expensive eight roll of film I've ever bought.
When Ferrania film is the only thing to put in your camera in five years' time, that'll be the cheapest investment you ever made!
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I originally pledged double for some film. I have now increased that fivefold without film after watching the promotional video (thank you Mark for the pointer). Of course I want film to continue to be produced. Even if this fundraising fails I hope, probably naively, that corporations are taking note.

But perhaps more than that I adore passionate people. I work in an industry of largely money orientated individuals, on the whole going through the motions and caring little. In a very troubled World, most of who's problems I am helpless to influence, I will be proud to be a very small part of these people's future lives.
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In for 4x rolls of 35mm and 4x rolls of 120. If Provia disappears, this may be all that's left.
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I pledged support for four rolls of 120. The more sources of color film we have going forward, the better. Good luck to Ferrania!
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But perhaps more than that I adore passionate people. I work in an industry of largely money orientated individuals, on the whole going through the motions and caring little. In a very troubled World, most of who's problems I am helpless to influence, I will be proud to be a very small part of these people's future lives.
Mark, I couldn't have said it better myself.

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I ordered a roll of 135 and a roll of 120. Maybe I'll get more in before it's all said and done. But it looks like the kickstarter is on track to succeed well ahead of time.
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Tantalizingly close but it's a steep-looking last $50,000. I'll buy a couple of rolls more, if the need arises.

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Tantalizingly close but it's a steep-looking last $50,000. I'll buy a couple of rolls more, if the need arises.
The usual pattern is a rush at the beginning followed by a long lull and then a further rush at the end.

I've been pretty impressed by how the project is still ticking up thousands every couple hours, even now the initial impetus is over, but the key is gonna be continually spreading the word for the next three weeks, so worst-case scenario there's just a few thousands to reel-in over the last few days.

Ideally they should release some tee-shirts and/or printed tote bags so people can get on board for $20, and some larger incentives (tour of the factory etc) to bring in a few thousands - which I'm sure some people could stretch to, if they're sufficiently interested.

Pretty sure they're gonna make it, but disappointed not to see more people just jumping-in and helping to keep their own film cameras usable for the foreseeable future - far too many film users grumbling about some particular legacy Ferrania film instead. The probability is they won't even be producing the same film formulas as they did in the past anyway.

PS: who's gonna jump in now and push it over $200,000 ??
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I've pledged for 35mm and 120, I think it's a very valuable project. Kodak and Fujifilm make superb products, but frankly I've got more faith in the smaller companies to make a difference in the long term.
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I am going to step up and buy some more as well. I would predict Fuji will be out of the film business within one year (I do love their products). But they are doing the classic "milk the market" on their way out the door.

Film manufacturing will not die, but it will be dominated by smaller boutique companies (You could even call Kodak small now). So heck yeah I will buy some more film.

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Great video. I'm in for two of the 35's. Plus, I do love those stickers!
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so glad I came across this post. I don't know Ferrania film, but I happily supported (2x 35mm and 2x 120). I liked the little promotional film. As someone said, I like passionate people. It's very possible that in a few years time we will only have Ilford (employee owned), The Impossible Project and Ferrania to put in our cameras. Without passionate people our cameras may be turned into paper weights.
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A member over on LUF posted this link to a podcast that includes a lengthy and very interesting interview with one of the American guys behind the project. Fascinating to hear their plans for a whole range of films - black&white, color, reversal, negative, 35mm, 120 you name it...

It's gonna be awesome!

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so glad I came across this post. I don't know Ferrania film, but I happily supported (2x 35mm and 2x 120). I liked the little promotional film. As someone said, I like passionate people. It's very possible that in a few years time we will only have Ilford (employee owned), The Impossible Project and Ferrania to put in our cameras. Without passionate people our cameras may be turned into paper weights.
I think we'll have options as long as there's a market for it. The market may need to "right size" itself and it surely will.

I wonder if Fuji would invest more into film production if Kodak films would get out of the market.
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I think we'll have options as long as there's a market for it. The market may need to "right size" itself and it surely will.

I wonder if Fuji would invest more into film production if Kodak films would get out of the market.
I doubt it. Fuji makes tons of money on things other than film now. Even if Kodak disappeared completely they'd more than likely still axe film. They're making money elsewhere.
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I think we'll have options as long as there's a market for it. The market may need to "right size" itself and it surely will.

I wonder if Fuji would invest more into film production if Kodak films would get out of the market.
Fuji is already a long time going out of the market. Each year they have less emulsions.
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What a great project! I'm in for 2 rolls of 120.... I followed the Impossible 'Polaroid' project from its start too, and bought some 'experimental' films in the early days, that were not that great....now though they are producing some very usable and innovative products.
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Project is almost 90% funded with three weeks to go! But I'm worried we're gonna get complacent now, and expect others to do the job. Keep spreading the word and try to get bloggers and online magazines to mention the project!
Let's keep the momentum going, and get 8000 backers before the deadline!
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Thanks for the prompt -- made my pledge....
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I chipped a bit more in, it is indeed a risk to become complacent and let victory slip away.
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As others have noted, it's a lot closer but not there yet. If you haven't signed on, perhaps think about doing so. A "new" producer of film at what seems like the right scale of production for current and future demand (but who can tell?) seems worth supporting to me.
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Fuji is already a long time going out of the market. Each year they have less emulsions.
Fuji having less emulsions is not the same as having no emulsions. If they wanted to get out completely, they would.
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Something occurred to me (yeah yeah I know, I'm slow.)
When Eastman Kodak finally poops out these guys could be the savior and last supplier of 35mm and 16mm movie film.
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Just ticked over $230,000!

Keep passing the word - just a bit further to go!

Based on the pledges so far, I wonder if they will reduce the number of 8mm and 16mm films and instead cut more 35mm and 120?
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Fuji having less emulsions is not the same as having no emulsions. If they wanted to get out completely, they would.
So true. Fuji is the last high-quality E6 film manufacturer, with no ifs or buts about their films still in production and really hope those guys are encouraged.

Ferrania I see as more of a something of a filling gap between lo-fi LOMO, medium Rollei and high-end Fuji films with according pricing, plus more variety to the market, including the much welcomed 8S & 16mm cine. But in 35mm and 120 format terms I really hope it doesn't steal any support from Fuji E6 market since Scotch slide film the Ferrania resurrects never was as excellent performer as Fuji slides have always been known for. Scotch slide was more like a "supermarket" slide film in comparison: cheap, not bad but nowhere near Fuji in quality. Ferrania says they've modernized the old Scotch emulsion, so if it fits between the likes of Fuji and Rollei then both price and quality terms then hopefully they've found their market share and benefits us all analog shooters.
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I wonder whether, by encouraging Ferrania, we might cut the demand for Kodak and Fuji, thereby hastening their decision to cut film altogether.

Just wondering.

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possible but i'd say unlikely. ferrarania is a much smaller company, likely able to respond better to changing market conditions unlike the behemoth that was (and to a lesser degree still is) kodak. their problem was the massive-capacity manufacturing had no way to scale down -- ferrania aims to address this.

besides, Tri-X is forever, and Fuji's slide film is undisputed champion. it would be a pretty exceptional case for ferrania to suddenly take a significant chunk of their market-share. ilford seems to be chugging along fine, so it isn't like it's impossible, the size just needs to be kept in check.
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I wonder whether, by encouraging Ferrania, we might cut the demand for Kodak and Fuji, thereby hastening their decision to cut film altogether.

Just wondering.
I think if we try really hard we can find some nuggets of negativity in this project. I mean every time a new digital camera comes out everyone starts worrying that more choice and higher customer visibility means the market is going to crash - lots of wringing of hands and wailing along the lines of: "please please don't give us more stuff to choose from! Just keep it to one or two cameras. And don't develop anything new or exciting!"

An alternative scenario is: this is going to raise a real positive flag about film use and film support. It has the capacity to raise interest and engagement on a broader scale, and show people there really is a future in film. It can reinvigorate the whole film market, and it's a marker against those who preach that film cameras - even Leicas - will be dust-gathering worthless artifacts sitting on thrift-store shelves in just ten years' time (this view was expounded by an 'expert' on RFF, and broadly defended by other members).

I'm going to continue buying Kodak Portra for most of my photography, but I'd gladly see a whole range of other films which I could use alongside it, and which my kids can try in 20 year's time.

PS: sorry if I sound too strident in this post - but I really think we should stay positive about this project. All the traditional hand-wringing and angst about film's 'decline' ends up as a self-fulfilling prophesy, and I don't see the point in looking for the smallest crumbs of negativity in this endeavor. Naturally just imo.
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I wonder whether, by encouraging Ferrania, we might cut the demand for Kodak and Fuji, thereby hastening their decision to cut film altogether.

Just wondering.

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Kodak has already killed off all of their slide films. They stand to lose nothing at all to Ferrania because they've already cut themselves 100% out of the market.

Fuji decided they didn't need to sell consumer priced slide film, so they have already cut themselves out of the market too.

Ferrania won't be making black and white so they're no threat in that segment. If they decide to restart production of C-41 films I doubt they could do much damage to Kodak or Fuji either. That market has shrunk considerably with Fuji taking up whatever little was left of the store-brand market that Ferrania used to cater to. Perhaps they would be a factory for Lomography to turn to, but perhaps not. Kodak seems likely to be selling most of their "drugstore" C-41 in the form of single-use cameras, which Ferrania won't be making.

So in practical terms, Ferrania is not competing with either Kodak or Fuji on any meaningful level. They're providing a product the others aren't interested in making.
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Need to feed the film camera! Now I am one of those waiting for their pack of Ferrania Film.
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An alternative scenario is: this is going to raise a real positive flag about film use and film support. It has the capacity to raise interest and engagement on a broader scale, and show people there really is a future in film.

...I really think we should stay positive about this project. All the traditional hand-wringing and angst about film's 'decline' ends up as a self-fulfilling prophesy, and I don't see the point in looking for the smallest crumbs of negativity in this endeavor. Naturally just imo.
Agreed. Stay positive - it's the only way to live

I'm certain that the Ferrania team is thrilled at the response so far from film fans. Christmas came early this year.
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If we push hard there's a real possibility we can get the project over the target this weekend!

I just upgraded earlier, but now I really can't afford to contribute any extra. But if we spread the word, and upgrade our pledges as far as we can, then the project will just blow past the target and beyond!

Let's keep film alive!!
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Down to the last $10,000 - but not there yet. It would be a crying shame to miss from here...
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