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Lots of interesting announcement rumored for mid Oct
Old 09-26-2013   #1
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Lots of interesting announcement rumored for mid Oct

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/all-...nd-october-10/

Fuji xe2, Panasonic lenses, Ricoh/Pentax, Nikon, Sony, etc.

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Old 09-26-2013   #2
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I'd hope that Fuji would announce a new X-Pro2 then as well.
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I'm a little disappointed that Fuji is updating the X-E1 before the X-Pro1. It makes me scared about the X-Pro1's future honestly since the X-E1 must be the winner in volume.

I'm not so into Sony stuff... though I do like the RX100 II and am seeing rumors about the RX10. I am interested in large sensor compacts of any kind... especially a pocketable fixed lens 35mm camera (Ricoh GR size).

Not into any DSLR stuff.
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AHHH photoplus expo is going to be fun this year
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I'm a little disappointed that Fuji is updating the X-E1 before the X-Pro1. It makes me scared about the X-Pro1's future honestly since the X-E1 must be the winner in volume.

I'm not so into Sony stuff... though I do like the RX100 II and am seeing rumors about the RX10. I am interested in large sensor compacts of any kind... especially a pocketable fixed lens 35mm camera (Ricoh GR size).

Not into any DSLR stuff.
IMHO, there may be three possibilities here
- that new organic sensor is so close that they want it on their new xp2
- wait and c if they should go ff on xp2 based on the Sony and Pentax ff rumors
- implementing something else that requires new hw and thus testing and development cycle takes longer.

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IMHO, there may be three possibilities here
- that new organic sensor is so close that they want it on their new xp2
- wait and c if they should go ff on xp2 based on the Sony and Pentax ff rumors
- implementing something else that requires new hw and thus testing and development cycle takes longer.
I hope so Gary... but I'm not so sure. I'm a pessimist though.
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I hope so Gary... but I'm not so sure. I'm a pessimist though.
I'm also incline to take a positive view of Fuji's lack of an announced replacement for the X-Pro. If nothing else, it's nice to see a camera billed as "Pro" follow development cycles closer to the pro-market workhorse, as opposed to the consumer-grade P&S.
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I'm also incline to take a positive view of Fuji's lack of an announced replacement for the X-Pro. If nothing else, it's nice to see a camera billed as "Pro" follow development cycles closer to the pro-market workhorse, as opposed to the consumer-grade P&S.
I get what you are saying, but if your Pro model is being surpassed by the lower-end models, then it is an issue.
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I've already made my commitments to go with the new Olympus E-M1, but am eager to see what's coming up from Ricoh as well. Lots of friends in the Ricoh and Pentax communities ... It will be good to see what new products the company is planning.

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I'am frankly excited about what ricoh-pentax will put out. Hoping it's a FF DSLR
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I'am frankly excited about what ricoh-pentax will put out. Hoping it's a FF DSLR
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But what about Sigma ... some changes to the DPM range wouldn't go astray.

Though I read they are about to release a 24-70 f2 zoom for the DSLR crowd in the very near future at around possibly half the price that Nikon would probably want for such a lens.
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I'am frankly excited about what ricoh-pentax will put out. Hoping it's a FF DSLR
Sadly, I doubt it. The rumor mill on the Pentax lists has been going 'round about a K3 - 20-24Mpixel APS-C model with some other refinements as well.

The real reason I doubt it is that Pentax at present isn't shipping any current production FF format lenses other than maybe the D-FA line and the FA Limiteds. Most of their lens line has been filled out since 2004 in the DA series lenses, which are optimized for APS-C.

But if it happens, bravo! A lot of Pentaxians will celebrate, and I know of one who will prepare to dine on his hat (a long long running joke amongst one group of Pentax folks... ;-).

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But what about Sigma ... some changes to the DPM range wouldn't go astray.

Though I read they are about to release a 24-70 f2 zoom for the DSLR crowd in the very near future at around possibly half the price that Nikon would probably want for such a lens.
Yeah.. There was a rumor about three months ago about sigma announcing something for their foveon line by end of the year. No updates on that rumor for quite awhile...

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...come on poor man's RX1. (from whomever)
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Panasonic gm1 rumor
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Panasonic gm1 rumor

Rumors for October announcements are flying. Gotta wonder which are going to become real. I posted about the Fuji x70 rumor on the Fuji fixed forum.. Now today I read this,,

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/pana...on-october-18/

A csc camera that is not going to be any bigger then the Sony rx100. Comes w/ a new 12-32 pancake zoom. And electronic shutter ONLY..

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A csc camera that is not going to be any bigger then the Sony rx100. Comes w/ a new 12-32 pancake zoom. And electronic shutter ONLY..
The thing people fail to realize about these type of cameras is that the lenses stick out too much for real pocketability.
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For a given value of "interesting".

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What about a digital BW body? That would be more interesting than FF for me. Or is Leica the only one who is brave enough? Of course they can charge a premium price, so that reduces their risk.

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The model names of the two Fuji cameras
Old 09-30-2013   #21
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The model names of the two Fuji cameras

http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/indo...-sony-cameras/

Looks like there will be two cameras... An xq1 and xe2. That rumored no evf camera w/ fixed 23f2.8 lens could be real...

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Oh well... According to this site..looks like xq1 maybe more of a xf1 replacement

http://www.fujirumors.com/q-x1-compa...panese-source/

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I hope that the Sony NEX9 implementation of full frame allows continued use of APS-C lenses, even at reduced megapixels, a la the Nikon D700 and others.
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My head is spinning spinning. Thought the X70 was going to be an X100 with no VF and a slower (smaller) lens.
Now it (is called the XQ1 and) has a 2/3" sensor.
I am going to put my head down and wait for the offical announcement.
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What about a digital BW body? That would be more interesting than FF for me. Or is Leica the only one who is brave enough? Of course they can charge a premium price, so that reduces their risk.

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Plus 1. Especially if it was a Fuji xp1 or xe1 based camera.

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So they're going to announce cameras that will ship next Summer so that you won't buy their competitors' models next week.

Anything that drives prices down on soon to be obsolete old cameras is great though ;-)
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Lol. Let the feeding frenzy start and the prices drop

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Excited for sure, but I wouldn't mind getting through these announcements with no GAS.
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Xe2 w/ more interesting features the the new x100s or a pocketable camera from sigma or fuji using at least a m43 size would get my attention

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I have just ordered a V1 with 10 and 18.5 lenses, so temporarily my 'need' for a new mirror-less camera has been fulfilled. But I make it clear to my wife that this indeed may be only a temporal solution
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DigiLloyd accidentally released his a7 info
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DigiLloyd accidentally released his a7 info

It has been removed from his website, but google cache still has the info for now at least..

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...-Sony-A7R.html

The 55f1.8 is huge o n that camera body.. The 35f2.8 is about the right size.

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Panasonic 12-32 looks interesting
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Panasonic 12-32 looks interesting

http://photorumors.com/2013/10/15/fi...32mm-mft-lens/

Hmmmm.. Nice looking lens.. Not so interested in the new Panasonic camera, but the lens looks nice. Can't wait to c some shots posted from u guys w/ it.

I might put this on my omd-em5 body. Never like the 12-50 kit lens that came w/ it.

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Sooooo disappointed about the Sony rx10
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Sooooo disappointed about the Sony rx10

Well if this rumor update is true, I am soooo disappointed.

1 inch sensor w/ a 24-200 fixed lens... I was so hoping for an apsc sensor w/ a short zoom or fixed 35""

http://photorumors.com/2013/10/14/so...have-1-sensor/

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Well if this rumor update is true, I am soooo disappointed.

1 inch sensor w/ a 24-200 fixed lens... I was so hoping for an apsc sensor w/ a short zoom or fixed 35""
Yeah, me too. AND the thing is supposedly the same size as this:



It's ok though... I don;t really need a new camera.
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