Old 01-06-2018   #2001
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I have a cardboard box filled with about a hundred of those 400 foot cores.
I like your setup; I'd like to make one for myself. Those 70mm rollers can be very spendy!
I'm always patient with eBay, and manage to do OK. It's when one needs it now that the robbery seems impossible to avoid. There are several used motion picture supply places online as well (or were when I was getting set-up) that were not entirely unreasonable, but shipping charges were high IIRC.

I toss the old cores when I load the split reel, I'm running out of room to store stuff I can't imagine I'll use again. The many hundreds of 120 spools I found in a box when I last moved? Oi.
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Been meaning to try out the XX again. Didn't like it in HC-110 much, so decided to try Pyrocat. Shot some ice today here in the GA mountains. Worked pretty well, and subject lends itself to a bit of grain. Maybe I'll stick with the Pyrocat.

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Old 01-13-2018   #2005
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Knowing this is a motion picture film, I always manage to see the shots in this thread as cinematic! My imagination, no doubt, but does anyone else see 5222 shots that way, more so than ones done with other films?
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Worked pretty well, and subject lends itself to a bit of grain. Maybe I'll stick with the Pyrocat.

I am curious, PMK was always a favorite of mine, in the larger format. Does the XX film scan easily with the Pyro stain?

XX in NOT a lower grain film, it was designed in 1958, and really hasn't changed much. Kind of like stepping into a time capsule that takes you back to 1958.

Some of the best photography that I see comes from Cinema. I see images all the time on the TV and I say to myself "Man, that would make a great still photo."

Myself I do sometimes tend to look at subjects with a cinematic eye. I enjoy doing that.
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I am curious, PMK was always a favorite of mine, in the larger format. Does the XX film scan easily with the Pyro stain?

XX in NOT a lower grain film, it was designed in 1958, and really hasn't changed much. Kind of like stepping into a time capsule that takes you back to 1958.

Some of the best photography that I see comes from Cinema. I see images all the time on the TV and I say to myself "Man, that would make a great still photo."

Myself I do sometimes tend to look at subjects with a cinematic eye. I enjoy doing that.
^^^THAT!!!^^^

Totally agree... Double X has given me a new life, literally, both in how/what I shoot and the ultimate use of the images. Long story. I only wish Double X was available in 120 so I could shoot with the 503.

So, I just bought a box of TriX.
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Nice, Dan,

On the iPhone screen I can see the depth and contrasts that look terrific. I must pull this up on the computer for a better view.
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I am curious, PMK was always a favorite of mine, in the larger format. Does the XX film scan easily with the Pyro stain?

XX in NOT a lower grain film, it was designed in 1958, and really hasn't changed much. Kind of like stepping into a time capsule that takes you back to 1958.
The scanner I use has upwards of 5300 true optical resolution so I'm not a great person to ask this. Lower-end scanners may have issues with grain aliasing with such a grainy film. I scanned the XX at 6000 DPI to get the smoothest grain from my Cezanne. That said, the Pyrocat was much less grainy than other developers tried.

Of course I wasn't trying to make it look like T-Max 100, in terms of grain, but, with HC-110 it seemed like the grain was really jumping out at me and was too over-the-top. I'm definitely a fine-grain kinda guy. But I thought I'd give the XX a go since I bought the 400' tin for $50.

I am almost out of Tri-X, which I probably will replace with XX for my occasional ~400-speed needs. The XX will likely last me a decade, while I go through 100' of T-Max every few months.
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Just as a general idea, staining/tanning developers like PMK and Pyrocat will give you the look of less grain since they kind of fill in the denser parts of the neg with stain. The grain is still there, it just gets masked a bit.

If you want a lot of grain with 5222, go with Rodinal or Beutler's. I uploaded some images with Beutler's on the last page or two.

Here is a decent example of the grain masking effects of Pyrocat in a strong solution 2:2:100-

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Just ran some XX in D96 the other day for the first time. No prints yet, but the negs looked really lovely. Less contrast than HC-110. If these print as well as they look like they will then one good thing will have come out of my attempt to get P30 sorted out.
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2 bulk 100' rolls of 5222 shipped in from FPP this past week. If a single emulsion has over 300,000 views on a forum, perhaps I better become familiar with it.
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2 bulk 100' rolls of 5222 shipped in from FPP this past week. If a single emulsion has over 300,000 views on a forum, perhaps I better become familiar with it.


Welcome Daryl,
Plenty to look at here. Plenty of help available here, too.
A few here haven't liked it, most all love it. I know I do.
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Wow,

Daryl! That is the way to get started.^^^ what Dan said!

Welcome, we hope to see your images soon!
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Hi, William,

Okay, backing up here and trying to catch up a little, while a piano sonata by Richard Strauss is playing (not my favorite but it fits my mood this minute), my mind returns to your post which I admired some time ago.

Your image is very well, beautifully done! And that was in Rodinal? What is the story behind this image? Is that portrait your own work? Is that a commercial presentation you happened upon? Either way, thanks for posting.

What size are those prints? I don't mind a little grain but your image of that work does not show the grain I ususally associate with Rodinal. If you could enlighten me, it would be much appreciated.
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Hi, William,

Okay, backing up here and trying to catch up a little, while a piano sonata by Richard Strauss is playing (not my favorite but it fits my mood this minute), my mind returns to your post which I admired some time ago.

Your image is very well, beautifully done! And that was in Rodinal? What is the story behind this image? Is that portrait your own work? Is that a commercial presentation you happened upon? Either way, thanks for posting.

What size are those prints? I don't mind a little grain but your image of that work does not show the grain I ususally associate with Rodinal. If you could enlighten me, it would be much appreciated.
that s a big commercial portrait ... i stumble upon..
somehow i really like the eyes ..
so i make this other photo of it..

I have some print of eastman 5222 ussualy i rate at 400 up to 30x45 cm .. and it manage to be a very well print from the eastman and rodinal combo

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Hi David,
You can call Kodak and order the 400' roll by phone; they are friendly and take VISA.
I got my film the next day from Eastman NYC regular shipping


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These are great images! It occurs to me that I may have never thanked you for your photos that I have enjoyed for so long. They have a theme and a character that is really special.
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