Leica announcing M10 on May 10th?
Old 03-14-2012   #1
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Leica announcing M10 on May 10th?

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2012/0...may-10th-2012/
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maybe the m9 will drop to $3500
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I hope an M10 so M9 prices drop down another level. Ill finally be in once they get down to the 4K level.
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Old 03-14-2012   #4
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maybe the m9 will drop to $3500
Yes. It's not so much the M10 itself that's the good news, it's the M9's that'll be flooding the market now. The photographer I bought my M8 off told me he basically got his new M9 for free now after the tax deduction. Same will happen here. Assuming a median 50% income tax for most photographers, M9's will be about €3500 on the used market when they upgrade to a €7000 M10. Not bad... and I'll be happy to have one for that price.
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Glad i held off on an M8, here's to an M8/M9 price drop
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You heard it here first: Its going to be a B&W sensor, around 16 MP, fixed lens (ala the X100). :-)
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Wow, that's interesting... the date makes me believe it. I'll be a little sad though if the M10 is announced and I want it... because I won't be able to buy one. Oh well, I should be greatful for what I already have.
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Oh well, I should be greatful for what I already have.
I think this is the wisdom quote for the day.
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Nooooooo.

I'm not ready for 8 weeks of relentless hyperventilation, I mean, speculation on this forum.
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"I should be greatful for what I already have"

The solution for the majority of the world's ills...

Hard not to want an M8/M9/M10 tho!
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How amazing would it be if the M10 turns out to be the upgrade for the M7, not the M9?
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What would an upgraded M7 to M10 be exactly?

M7-P maybe possible? But you have to expect almost all newly numbered Leicas to be digital from now on and only variants or evolutions of the M7/MP for film...
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The M9 will not suddenly drop in price when an M10 is launched. Don't hold your breath, it's Leica, right? They will simply position the M10 above the M9 in price.

I'm predicting LED projected framelines, emitting the frame illumination window from the front. They gave it a go with the M9 Titanium and it will likely add that modern aspect while cutting production costs.

Unfortunately, it's b*tt ugly too.
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I wonder...
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buzzardkid, you're clearly in denial of your wants.
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buzzardkid, you're clearly in denial of your wants.
Whuahahaha!

Had an M8, sold it after five months only. Clunky shutter, filters-on, filters-off, sigh. The instant re-cocking and the fact that it was a digital camera made me want to shoot off bursts by pressing the shutter multiple times like with a DSLR. Result: shutter faults.

Current set-up is below, and a lowly Nikon D3100 for the rapid-fire bursts I'm good, no need for any M over an M6 Classic, I'm cured.
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IF (and that's a big IF) Leica introduces a change to the digital M lineup on May 10, I would bet money that it will be nothing more than cosmetic "window dressing". I would gladly like to be eating crow on May 11, but I have my doubts.
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I think three years more time for development will result in more than 'window dressing'. I wouldn't be surprised the M10 to be hot and including state of the art additions. They really want to be the best boy of the class after all. They were far ahead when they launched the M9 and the X1. It's in their dna to be better than the others.
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If it really has no LCD display and a b&w sensor, I will get it no matter how much it costs.
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If it really has no LCD display and a b&w sensor, I will get it no matter how much it costs.
Me too :-)
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Old 03-14-2012   #21
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The rumor seems quite serious actually...

http://leicarumors.com/2012/03/14/ru...e-sensor.aspx/
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It is doubtful I will get any sleep tonight if the rumored M10 is a B&W only camera and there is no LCD.

Funny thing is that I'm a die hard B&W fim only kinda guy and was going to sell mucho gear to get a chrome M9P.

For me its a game changer. I hope the rumor is true.

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It is doubtful I will get any sleep tonight if the rumored M10 is a B&W only camera and there is no LCD.
I think you can rest well then.
There's just no way anyone is going to make a digital camera without an LCD screen. I'm doubtful about a B&W only model. But that's infinitely more likely than a digital without an LCD.
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I think you can rest well then.
There's just no way anyone is going to make a digital camera without an LCD screen. I'm doubtful about a B&W only model. But that's infinitely more likely than a digital without an LCD.
+1 on that.

No manufacturer is willing to fill a niche that small. At best, one can have the B&W sensor as an option (read: higher price)!
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The rumor seems quite serious actually...

http://leicarumors.com/2012/03/14/ru...e-sensor.aspx/

that is the same site that wrote about the BS thread I started last year about an M9.5 and the new Voigtlander 35 f/1.1. The site is a big unrealiable joke. What's really going to happen is Leica is adopting Sony's 24-29mb full-frame sensor along with some of the titanium functions. It will be nice, expensive and create more pixel envy than ever before.

I step off my soap box now.

ps: a true BW sensor might be neat. but I have an M8 and still prefer film.
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This is horrible news so far in advance. Mile long threads of prognostication and dribble for 2 months. Horrible!
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This is good news if its really true. I would love to see a b&w sensor with low ISO 25/50 capability rather than chase the high ISO craze. hmmm.
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A B&W M10 that looked like a MP could be a worthy dream.
The theme of the event is 'Leica the essentials'

Remove the LCD - then it can be as thin as the classic Ms.
Use the mechanical shutter cock lever - like the Classic M and Epson RD1.
No need for any mode dials or color balance - just the shutter speed, A and ISO.

If it is full frame and retains the optical RF I will be in.
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Given the cost of the new Nikon D4 and Canon 1Dx and current price of an M9 I'm going to guess that the M10 will go for $7000-9000 (body only).
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I, for one, hope it is a B&W sensor only... that way I wouldn't be interested.
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I, for one, hope it is a B&W sensor only... that way I wouldn't be interested.
I can only assume this is one of the 'surprises' Leica will be pulling off their sleeve besides a true new M10. But I hate to admit I like the thought of a true b/w digital rangefinder camera.
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If it's a B&W full sensor it could be what pushes me over the edge to the "Dark-Side" of digital...
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Can anyone say if a B/W sensor would be cheaper to produce than a color sensor?
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The best thing Leica could do for their M10 is take the M9 and make it reliable and sort out that crappy LCD screen, Its embarrassing for them to have a £5000 camera with a screen far worse than a £200 P+S.
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Theoretically I think it should be cheaper, since it wouldn't require the CFA to be added. However, practically, since you'd be making and selling fewer sensors compared to a color sensor, it probably costs more.
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Should be cheaper: you don't need as many sensels on the chip to get the same number of mpix, when you're not having to have separate R, G, and B photosites.

I'd love an LCDless digital, that can bluetooth to an iphone/android device with an app for chimping and menu setting: better battery life for shooting, thinner, more robust. An advance lever to recock the shutter, and wow, that would be hugely tempting for me.
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Should be cheaper: you don't need as many sensels on the chip to get the same number of mpix, when you're not having to have separate R, G, and B photosites.

I'd love an LCDless digital, that can bluetooth to an iphone/android device with an app for chimping and menu setting: better battery life for shooting, thinner, more robust. An advance lever to recock the shutter, and wow, that would be hugely tempting for me.
Yes! I'm not certain how I'd go for a strictly black and white digital, but man would I like to have a manual lever for the shutter.
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I thought they were working on some APS-c mirrorless thingy?
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I thought they were working on some APS-c mirrorless thingy?
Sure, but they can work on multiple cameras at once no?
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Some of the individual parts might be cheaper. But the overall development costs would have to be spread across a much smaller group.
We on this forum may love the idea of a B&W-only camera. But a B&W rangefinder? Talk about a niche within a niche.

That would start to sound like a special edition.
I don't remember much from calculus, but I do think there was a forumula that went something like this:
Special Edition + Leica = $$,$$$
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