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Help me find a 50mm lens for the M3 here..

Got this M (along w/ a Rollei F) it´s been quite some time but always busy w/ digital that i never got back to commit to film again.

Through a small fuji i fell in love w/ small cameras and decided to take the leap w/ the Leica. I don´t even know if the camera is working ok or if the film workflow will happen her... so i am opting for not investing too much right now on the lens. I could even find an adaptor for my pancake nikkor 50 f1.8... anyone tried that? It´s a great little lens.
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The M3 is meant to be matched with a Rigid Summicron. If money is tight, I would get a Canon 50/1.8 RF lens.
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How about a 5cm f3.5 Elmar to start with and build up from there
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I'll see your 3.5 Elmar and raise you 2/3 stop in favor of the LTM f/2.8 Elmar.

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I'll see your 3.5 Elmar and raise you 2/3 stop in favor of the LTM f/2.8 Elmar.

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If precision framing isn't extremely important to you, the 40mm Summicron/Rokkor is a great option. It's field of view will be most of the M3 viewfinder (outside of the 50mm framelines), but it's a great little lens with great ergonomics and falls into your "compact camera" preference. I realize some people hate the idea of having "loose" framing, but my style of shooting isn't all that precise anyway. You can also make it yours for about $400-$450 and won't really lose any value if you decide to upgrade down the road.

Other than that, the 50mm Summicron Rigid is a real gem and is perfectly matched with the M3, as Raid noted above.

Best of luck with the search, and enjoy your M3!
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Voigtlander 50 2.5 Color-Skopar, LTM with an adapter.
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Second the Canon (unless you can afford a Summicron)
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The Color-Skopar, like madNbad says. Excellent on the M3 for about half the price of a Summicron rigid. Same build quality but much better ergonomics.

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x3 on the Canon LTM 50 1.8. Older chrome version much less likely to be fogged, later black version has superior coatings, but difficult (not impossible) to find with clear optics. Pick up an M39/M3 adapter and you are good to go!
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there are soooo many great lenses to choose from. everything from a Jupiter 8 to a Noctilux . First thing to do is determine ur budget.
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Forget about Nikkor 50 1.8, you can't couple it with RF.

Wanna small and cheap? Get Industar-22 and 50mm LTM-M adaptor from Amazon.
Or any FSU 50 mm LTM. I have tried them all. And I have tried all Crons 50 and Planar, Nokton. I was often questioning myself what is wrong with FSU 50 lenses on film.
Because I can't find anything wrong.

Industar-26M. Those are very cheap. Like twenty bucks.




Jupiter 3 are under 200$ now. Very small f1.5 lens.




Industar-22. Under fifty bucks lens.



All on M3.

FSU are better lenses comparing old Leitz and Canon. They are much less prons to haze and fungus. Good luck to find Canon 50 1.8 without haze.
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The M3 is meant to be matched with a Rigid Summicron. If money is tight, I would get a Canon 50/1.8 RF lens.
I agree. The Canons are excellent lenses in either chrome or the later black / chrome livery and work well on the M cameras. They render quite neutrally and so are useful in a wide range of photographic settings and are always in reasonable demand and so can be sold again if your needs change. Having said that they are available readily and so tend not to be over the top expensive to purchase, especially if you do not want a mint copy where you might be competing with the collector end of the market. Don't forget to budget for a LTM to M adapter - if possible an original Leica one though I believe the after-market ones are most likely OK these days.
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The 5cm Summicron Collapsible is a wonderful lens (particularly on black and white film) and is often cheaper than the rigid.


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Besides the M3 i got this Leica which i got from a friend in a terrible state... I thought of finding someone to clean it and maybe use the lens. I don´t even know if the lens is threaded or fixed.
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And this is my M·... not bad.
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That's a thread mount Leica, probably a II series - no means of attaching a strap. The lens is most likely a Summar. They are decent lenses and could be used on an M3 with an LTM/M adapter. Be aware that the glass in the Summars is soft and liable to either scratch now if not cleaned carefully or already scratched - I cannot tell from the photo.
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That's a thread mount Leica, probably a II series - no means of attaching a strap. The lens is most likely a Summar. They are decent lenses and could be used on an M3 with an LTM/M adapter. Be aware that the glass in the Summars is soft and liable to either scratch now if not cleaned carefully or already scratched - I cannot tell from the photo.
I got it already in a terrible state.
I can´t release the lens.

Since it was a present i never sold it.... but never took it to be CLAed.
It´s been a decade already.
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Another vote for the 50mm Color-Skopar. Great bang for the bucks, and a modern design to boot. But there are so many choices, both pricey and not. An embarrassment of riches - a good problem to have!
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For great value I vote for either the 40mm Summicron or the Nikkor H.C. 50mm LTM. The latter is the Sonnar with close focus to 0.5m.
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It is III with SN visible to find out what it is. Looks like it was not in best place for storage,
Summar on it usually uncoated, but some were.
I had it on IIf and on M4-2. I have to clean mine and it was relatevly easy with instructions availible on-line.
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The 5cm Summicron Collapsible is a wonderful lens (particularly on black and white film) and is often cheaper than the rigid.
I agree that the Collapsible is a wonderful lens, but apart from the last series - serail number starts with 13XX XXX - the front glass is very soft (like a Summar) so almost all are scratched to ruins nowadays.

As a user the Rigid is better, but yes, pricey.

We must be very happy with the Color-Skopar 50mm f/2.5, it is cheaper and more universal than the Rigid as it can be used on both the LTM and the M Leicas.

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It is III with SN visible to find out what it is. Looks like it was not in best place for storage,
Summar on it usually uncoated, but some were.
I had it on IIf and on M4-2. I have to clean mine and it was relatively easy with instructions available on-line.
number is 175800
I got it already in a terrible state.
I never leave cameras inside closets or cabinets. I rather leave them in a shelf with as much light as possible. It gets real dirty but no fungus.
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Another vote for the collapsible. It's a nice, sharp lens. I used mine with my M3 (while I had one) until I sold the camera... but I couldn't bring myself to sell the lens. I'll probably mount it on my M4 and use it again.
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every 50mm lens will be mentioned sooner or later, so i’ll recommend any lens that’s within budget.
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number is 175800
I got it already in a terrible state.
I never leave cameras inside closets or cabinets. I rather leave them in a shelf with as much light as possible. It gets real dirty but no fungus.
Why not to send it for CLA? Camera and lens looks intact.
With Leica film M you will need backup camera for the time M needs to be in service. This camera, lens once they are serviced will be as good as M.
And once Leica LTM is serviced it will works for years.
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Why not to send it for CLA? Camera and lens looks intact.
With Leica film M you will need backup camera for the time M needs to be in service. This camera, lens once they are serviced will be as good as M.
And once Leica LTM is serviced it will works for years.

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I have a pristine 50mm Collapsible Summicron., 2nd series..
I love the collapsible feature.(unlike Erik)
Finding one NOT scratched and hazed, extremely difficult!
Suggest the 50mm Elmar f2.8, sharp and contrasty.
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I have a pristine 50mm Collapsible Summicron., 2nd series..
I love the collapsible feature.(unlike Erik)
Finding one NOT scratched and hazed, extremely difficult!
Suggest the 50mm Elmar f2.8, sharp and contrasty.
Hi Leicapixie, is your pristine Collapsible with a serial number 13XXXXX? I want to see if my theory is correct. Thanks!

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I don´t even know if the camera is working ok or if the film workflow will happen her... so i am opting for not investing too much right now on the lens. I could even find an adaptor for my pancake nikkor 50 f1.8... anyone tried that? It´s a great little lens.

If you're not looking to invest too much right on a lens right now, then how about a Jupiter 8 for the time being.

I currently have a number of 50s - in descending order according to the price I paid for them: ZM Planar; Summarit 50 f1.5; LTM Nokton 50 f1.5 (which I re-bought having always regretted selling my first); a collapsible Soviet 50 f3.5; and a Jupiter 8. I use the J8 just as much as any of my more expensive lenses and have never regretted using it.



The Jupiter 8 is a perfectly fine lens - I'd go as far as saying that it's a very good lens - and is capable of producing lovely images. There isn't a single image I've taken with it that has left me thinking that any shortfall in image quality was a result of the lens (as opposed to my photographic 'eye' or technique). No, the build quality patently isn't as good as that of my ZM Planar, Summarit, or Nokton. Then again, it cost me a fraction of the price and I don't plan on using the lens like a hammer, but simply to make pictures - which it does really well.
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My two cents: the CV collapsible heliar 2/50.
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If you're not looking to invest too much right on a lens right now, then how about a Jupiter 8 for the time being.

I currently have a number of 50s - in descending order according to the price I paid for them: ZM Planar; Summarit 50 f1.5; LTM Nokton 50 f1.5 (which I re-bought having always regretted selling my first); a collapsible Soviet 50 f3.5; and a Jupiter 8. I use the J8 just as much as any of my more expensive lenses and have never regretted using it.



The Jupiter 8 is a perfectly fine lens - I'd go as far as saying that it's a very good lens - and is capable of producing lovely images. There isn't a single image I've taken with it that has left me thinking that any shortfall in image quality was a result of the lens (as opposed to my photographic 'eye' or technique). No, the build quality patently isn't as good as that of my ZM Planar, Summarit, or Nokton. Then again, it cost me a fraction of the price and I don't plan on using the lens like a hammer, but simply to make pictures - which it does really well.

Another great call.
I am trying to find a trade now where i throw my Rollei, Pentax 67 and Nikon for Leica and Fuji stuff.

What´s not being used must go. Photo equipment not being used tends to collapse in a bad way, not the summicron way.
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My two cents: the CV collapsible heliar 2/50.

Beautifull but heavy on the wallet. Unless i find a trade i will spend south of 300 bucks.
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7ARTISANS 50 1.1. I like it so much I have two - silver and black. I also have lots of other Leica 50 glass, but this is by far the best deal out there. Something like $350 new, available used for under $300.



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7ARTISANS 50 1.1. I like it so much I have two - silver and black. I also have lots of other Leica 50 glass, but this is by far the best deal out there. Something like $350 new, available used for under $300.



Not trying to be picky but i would rather have a lighter and smallish lens. 1.1 on a rangefinder gives too many out of focus images. I rather have a little shake but perfect focus on a smallish aperture. f/2.0 is the gold standard on 35mm. A small camera is a thing of beauty. I won´t even place a lenshoood so i go as unnoticed as possible in the street.Cool porsche pic btw...
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The dual-range Summicron is a beauty....
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A great, tiny, super light weight (made from aluminum) cheeeep 50 is the Jupiter 8 50 f2.

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The J-8 is a clone of the amazingly good Zeiss 50/2. No surprise.
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