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Thanks for posting those.... what scanner did you use? 
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Hey Dave, it's a Nikon Coolscan IV ED. I've had it for at least 15 years and finally got around to cleaning the mirror a few months ago. It was filthy!
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That shot reminds me of the way Kodachrome from the mid-70s looked. I think also if it were shot with a G2, the rendering of the Zeiss lens reminds me of what I was shooting back then (50mm f1.8 Ultron) also.
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01-04-2019
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Re portraits, the new Ektachrome is very neutral when shot in controlled conditions, but has a bluish bias outdoors when in open shade.
This is the new Ektachrome, drum scanned.

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Once again, I wish we had a "Like" button. Nice scan!!! 
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open shade IS bluish. a warming filter will take care of that.
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Once again, I wish we had a "Like" button. Nice scan!!! 
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Indeed. The color, sharpness, and portrait are just perfect.
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01-10-2019
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OM4-Ti
OM Zuiko 35mm f/2
New Kodak Ektachrome 100
exposed +2/3EV
Noritsu lab scan 2400dpi jpg
Minor tone adjustments and sharpening. Nil colour adjustments.

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We are now seeing why E100 is back! Great photos and nice scans, Lynn!
I am always envious of your Beach images (you always do great work  ), but on a positive note, we hope to get back to the beach this year. Maybe! If so, E100 will be with us!
Thanks for posting!  
PS: the reds are especially eye-catching.
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Thanks Dave, yes the reds really pop don't they. Strange as it may sound, the beach is the only place I can easily get to nowadays.. for a respite coffee with my wife followed sometimes by a brief walk with camera, only a few minutes from home. I count myself lucky!
The E100 is very nice, but Ektar 100 is cheaper and, I think, finer grained - with colour that's just as pleasing. Maybe I'll have a different opinion if I mount the E100 and project it.
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01-10-2019
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Really like what I'm seeing in this thread, very nice work everyone.
Question: If you're here in the States, where are you having your Ektachrome E100 processed? I've had great results from Dwayne's Photo in Parsons KS with Fuji films, but my last batch of Kodak they processed came out a bit wonky, color-wise (green-ish,magenta-ish tints). I'll be shooting a half a dozen rolls in March, and am looking for a trusted place to send them.
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01-11-2019
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Lynn,
I like these...  ...what ISO did you set for this roll?
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Lynn,
Btw, how do you manage to shoot so close to the motifs without being subjected to verbal "attacks"? 
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Lynn,
I like these...  ...what ISO did you set for this roll?
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I had the EV compensation set at +2/3 and sometimes +1EV, Dave.
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Btw, how do you manage to shoot so close to the motifs without being subjected to verbal "attacks"? 
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I'm quite open about taking pictures; this is a major tourist area so there's lots of people with DSLRs, mirrorless and cell phones everywhere taking pictures.
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I had the EV compensation set at +2/3 and sometimes +1EV, Dave.
I'm quite open about taking pictures; this is a major tourist area so there's lots of people with DSLRs, mirrorless and cell phones everywhere taking pictures.
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Ah... thanks, Lynn. So, the meter on your camera exposes properly but you added compensation for the conditions, otherwise the exposure would have been different due to the sunny beach conditions. One of my cameras, I forget which one, needs a little compensation just to expose properly for normal daytime shooting.
It sure helps to know your Beach as well as you do! Great results!   
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Really like what I'm seeing in this thread, very nice work everyone.
Question: If you're here in the States, where are you having your Ektachrome E100 processed? I've had great results from Dwayne's Photo in Parsons KS with Fuji films, but my last batch of Kodak they processed came out a bit wonky, color-wise (green-ish,magenta-ish tints). I'll be shooting a half a dozen rolls in March, and am looking for a trusted place to send them.
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Hi Tim,
you may have a look at our thread about recommended E6 labs:
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/for...d.php?t=137289
By far most recommendations for North America:
http://www.agximaging.com/
Excellent quality and service at low prices.
Back to Ektachrome E100: I've shot some further rolls in the last weeks. And now I am quite sure about this:
E100 is an ISO 80/20° film.
All my ISO 100/21° shots were a bit underexposed (Provia 100F with the same Nikon F6 body has always been perfect at ISO 100/21°, the F6 meter works perfectly).
Those E100 pictures I have exposed with ISO 80/20° are good concerning exposure.
Cheers, Jan
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Hi Tim,
you may have a look at our thread about recommended E6 labs:
https://www.rangefinderforum.com/for...d.php?t=137289
By far most recommendations for North America:
http://www.agximaging.com/
Excellent quality and service at low prices.
Back to Ektachrome E100: I've shot some further rolls in the last weeks. And now I am quite sure about this:
E100 is an ISO 80/20° film.
All my ISO 100/21° shots were a bit underexposed (Provia 100F with the same Nikon F6 body has always been perfect at ISO 100/21°, the F6 meter works perfectly).
Those E100 pictures I have exposed with ISO 80/20° are good concerning exposure.
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Thanks Dave, yes the reds really pop don't they. Strange as it may sound, the beach is the only place I can easily get to nowadays.. for a respite coffee with my wife followed sometimes by a brief walk with camera, only a few minutes from home. I count myself lucky!
The E100 is very nice, but Ektar 100 is cheaper and, I think, finer grained - with colour that's just as pleasing. Maybe I'll have a different opinion if I mount the E100 and project it.
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Agreed. If you are not projecting, E100 offers very little over Ektar. I see nothing in the photos in this thread that attract me to this film, because I don't project. Ektar will be far less expensive, offer way more dynamic range, and is much easier to process.
There's a reason why slide film has been on a slow death spiral for many years and why labs have been disappearing. That is because few people project slides. That is the main reason to shoot E6 film and why hardly anyone does today.
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Agreed. If you are not projecting, E100 offers very little over Ektar. I see nothing in the photos in this thread that attract me to this film, because I don't project. Ektar will be far less expensive, offer way more dynamic range, and is much easier to process.
There's a reason why slide film has been on a slow death spiral for many years and why labs have been disappearing. That is because few people project slides. That is the main reason to shoot E6 film and why hardly anyone does today.
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What Ektachrome offers over Ektar is fun. I have no intention of projecting slides and I like them anyway. Hold them up to the sky. Magic. Put 'em on a light table and enjoy. Scan and share or scan and print if you like. I make my medium format slides into bookmarks for friends and they love them. As long as E6 is around I'll happily shoot it.
E6 is just cool, full stop. Worth the price. Same goes for C41, B&W, IR, etc. It's all good, and all different.
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What Ektachrome offers over Ektar is fun. I have no intention of projecting slides and I like them anyway. Hold them up to the sky. Magic. Put 'em on a light table and enjoy. Scan and share or scan and print if you like. I make my medium format slides into bookmarks for friends and they love them. As long as E6 is around I'll happily shoot it.
E6 is just cool, full stop. Worth the price. Same goes for C41, B&W, IR, etc. It's all good, and all different.
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Years ago, I shot a lot of E6 (Astia 100F in 6 x 7 format) and agree seeing them held up to the light is neat. But hardly worth the price, at least to me.
E6 film is much harder to scan properly which sucks a lot of the fun out it for me. I can scan 2-3 rolls of C41 for each roll of E6.
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^ So I'm game , why do you find it harder than C-41 ? I'm using an Epson V-600 and can't say I find it much different than scanning C-41 .
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^ So I'm game , why do you find it harder than C-41 ? I'm using an Epson V-600 and can't say I find it much different than scanning C-41 .
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I scan with a Plustek OpticFilm 120 using SilverFast Ai Studio. When I scan E6 film (Astia, Provia, or Velvia), the colors are almost always off, typically severely off. I have to spend a lot of time correcting these colors and so my overall scanning time is double or triple that of C41. With negative film I almost never have to correct colors.
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^ So I'm game , why do you find it harder than C-41 ? I'm using an Epson V-600 and can't say I find it much different than scanning C-41 .
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I wasn't the guy you were asking, but I also found it harder to scan. I use a V700. I noticed with slide film I get a kind of 'soft' image, or a slight 'glow' that I don't get with negative film. It just doesn't look as sharp in comparison, although, the color is nice.
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Finally got my scans back. I got my scans done at downtown camera in Toronto since I've switched to wet printing. Scans were decent enough. I'm a little disappointed with the color but I think that's mostly because of the film and not because of the scans at all. Also finding the biogon to produce some really dreamy effects wide open that I don't normally see on black and white film.
Leica M5, Kodak New Ektachrome 100, Zeiss Biogon 35mm F2

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These look really good on my screen!
Finishing up a roll myself, hoping mine come out half as good as yours. 
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Hey all my friends, so many good pictures here! Well done!
I decided to stay with B&W for a certain time (certain still to be defined) but your photos with this film are so good...temptation is strong!
robert
PS: the film is good but the photographers are "super good" 
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E6 film is much harder to scan properly with sucks a lot of the fun out it for me. I can scan 2-3 rolls of C41 for each roll of E6.
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If you have problems scanning transparency film then the reason is on your side (either lack of knowledge and / or a scanner / scanning software problem).
In general transparencies are easier to scan because
- you always have the original: you just look at the slide and know how the colors really are and have to look after scanning; this check is impossible with negative film
- transparency films are finer grained, and as all scanners beside real drum scanners enhance film grain by scanner noise you benefit from the finer grain of reversal film.
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Couple more from me.
Leica M5, Kodak New Ektachrome 100, Zeiss Biogon 35mm F2 and Nokton M 50mm F1.5

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New E100 colors seem very natural IMO. I'd like just a touch more saturation though.
In the old days like others I would underexpose my slide film just a bit to achieve that.
However with this new film perhaps slight overexposure is required?
lynnb's photos at +2/3 EV seem right on. Or is it the scanning? I'm confused.
Perhaps this film's true speed is a little lower than 100.
Has anyone else tried shooting it at EI 80 or 64?
Chris
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New E100 colors seem very natural IMO. I'd like just a touch more saturation though.
In the old days like others I would underexpose my slide film just a bit to achieve that.
However with this new film perhaps slight overexposure is required?
lynnb's photos at +2/3 EV seem right on. Or is it the scanning? I'm confused.
Perhaps this film's true speed is a little lower than 100.
Has anyone else tried shooting it at EI 80 or 64?
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I agree with your comment about natural color, and Ektachrome does seem to have a bit less saturation as compared to the Fuji products. For these scans I've left the saturation alone, but whenever I scan Fuji slides I end up reducing the saturation, for what it's worth. It's best to try for yourself to see if you like it.
These were exposed at iso80 in overcast conditions and I used an 81A filter. Then I scanned them which changes everything of course. :-)

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Agreed. If you are not projecting, E100 offers very little over Ektar. I see nothing in the photos in this thread that attract me to this film, because I don't project.
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You said you have not used this film so far by yourself.
But I have. I've shot many rolls and compared it directly to other films like Provia 100F and Ektar. Because of my test results I have to completely disagree with you.
Because
- Ektachrome E100 offers better sharpness than Ektar (same is valid for Provia 100F and both Velvias)
- E100 offers significantly higher resolution than Ektar (same is valid for Provia 100F and both Velvias)
- E100 has finer grain than Ektar (also same is valid for Provia 100F and both Velvias)
- E100 has more accurate color rendering (same is valid for Provia 100F)
- E100 has no cyan cast in the blues like Ektar (same is valid for both Velvias and Provia 100F).
As a reversal film E100 is also more versatile than Ektar/CN films. A slide can be used in more different uses / applications than CN film. You can look at a slide just by holding it into the light. You can view it enlarged with a slide viewer or under an excellent slide loupe on a light table. You can project it in unsurpassed quality with a slide projector. You can make direct BW prints with BW direct paper. You can scan it and make excellent prints from the scans (with better detail rendition than CN films).
With negative film you can only make prints and / or scans.
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No.
With reversal film you have a finished picture after processing. No further time consuming / expensive steps needed.
With negative film after processing you always need a further step: scanning and / or printing. Both is expansive (time consuming) if you want good quality.
Therefore the costs per shot are mostly lower with reversal film.
Processing: Doing E6 yourself at home is extremely easy and cheap. No problem at all.
Dynamic range:
Reversal film has enough DR for most situations. And you always can increase it by using several techniques like fill-in flash (with that you can reach DR of more of 15 stops), gradual ND filters, pre-flashing or pull processing.
Clever photographers don't complain about DR, they just use the appropriate technique to increase it when necessary.
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There's a reason why slide film has been on a slow death spiral for many years and why labs have been disappearing. That is because few people project slides. That is the main reason to shoot E6 film and why hardly anyone does today.
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Not correct.
1. Reversal film demand is increasing. Kodak currently has problems to keep up with demand. Fujifilm said at Photokina that they also have increasing interest. The number of labs offering E6 is globally increasing. The reintroduction of Ektachrome has accelerated that.
2. Reversal film use has always been much more than only projection. Professional film use e.g has been almost exclusively reversal film in printing of books, catalogs, advertising, magazines like National Geopgraphic, GEO etc.. Because of higher quality (detail rendition, colours) and much much easier workflow in the printing process (slide as original color reference).
I've worked in this business for a long time. All that has been daily work for me.
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Perhaps this film's true speed is a little lower than 100.
Has anyone else tried shooting it at EI 80 or 64?
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Yes, I have.
I've got best results with EI 80/20°. I've used calibrated exposure meters.
I have also shot Provia 100F and E100 side by side: Same conditions, same camera and lens. Provia 100F is perfect at box speed of ISO 100/21°.
E100 is best at EI 80/20°.
The contrast curve of E100 is also a bit steeper than Provia 100F (resulting in a bit higher dynamic range Provia has).
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Agreed. If you are not projecting, E100 offers very little over Ektar. I see nothing in the photos in this thread that attract me to this film, because I don't project. Ektar will be far less expensive, offer way more dynamic range, and is much easier to process.
There's a reason why slide film has been on a slow death spiral for many years and why labs have been disappearing. That is because few people project slides. That is the main reason to shoot E6 film and why hardly anyone does today.
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On a scan though, the grain appears finer on E100 than Ektar. I made a couple 16x20 samples and the E100 was far smoother looking
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How about some Ice & Snow to counteract Lynn's Sunny Beaches.
First Roll, Nikon S2
Love the vibrance of the blue in the sky.
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Nice, Tim!!!
Not the snow but the images... well you know what I mean.
I do love the blue sky and the images are well exposed. The more I see the better so like it. Getting ready to send mine out for processing! Can't wait... 
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Tim--second picture is super! Thanks for posting! Love the blue sky--Ektachrome is good for the blues... :-)
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Thanks Dave and Paul.
Ektachrome really does make the blues POP!!!
Same in Lynn's images where you can see the ocean in the background, that deep blue and some green, I love it.
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Ektachrome red!
Manly beach, summer 2019
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Thanks, Lynn..,
Now I really miss the beach... 
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