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View Poll Results: Your favourite FSU 50-52 mm lens
Industar 22 (50mm f3.5) 34 6.60%
Industar 50 (50mm f3.5) 27 5.24%
Industar 26 (52mm f2.8) 14 2.72%
Industar 61 (52mm f2.8) 88 17.09%
Jupiter 8 (50mm f2.0) 228 44.27%
Jupiter 3 (50mm f1.5) 138 26.80%
other 35 6.80%
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Old 12-07-2010   #41
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OOF of I-61 and I-26 is remarkable ...
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Old 12-07-2010   #42
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First shots with an I-50 collapsible mounted on my FED-2d which came in from the cold with the usual I-26M a few years ago.



I-50 collapsible f/3.5 1/30th



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good stuff, marc. you have an excellent copy of the i-50 ...
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This picture shows a very nice atmosphere.

How did you do the lighting?
It was using available light in the bar. They have lit panels in the top of the bar so most of the light came from that.
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Old 01-24-2011   #45
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I can't vote just yet on the positive merits of FSU 50mm - 52mm lenses (only tested about a third) but who knows, I may yet find a gem.

Here's a photo taken with a 50mm Jupiter 8m (Kiev type} - sorry about the footprint centre screen and the scratch.










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Old 01-25-2011   #46
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that's insanely rich in details. very nice out of focus too. great shot, Brian.

Thankyou very much!

Years ago on RFF, the merit of the Helios-103 was well known amoing Kiev and Contax users. Many discussions of converting one ito LTM took place.
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Old 01-26-2011   #47
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J-8, but I have to admit that the only other lens I have is a Industar-50. I chose the J-8 for being faster.

In my opinion and with my limited overall-experience (coming to photography in '09, taking pictures regularly and shooting a Zorki 4k for 6 months now) I think J-8's are damn fine lenses.

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Old 02-04-2011   #48
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I detested the build of my J-8 when I first got it, a week ago, off the camera it felt like an absolute piece of crap... But mounted on the IIIf or the M4-P it feels pretty solid, even the clickless aperture doesn't bother me at this point. And the results? Wow, they blow me away! So good, so cheap.
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Old 02-07-2011   #49
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A shot from the Jupiter-8 on the Leica IIIf RD, nothing good... I just really liked the character of the shot. I think it was at f/2.8, or possibly f/4.


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Huh. I picked up a J8 and I61 L/D when I first got started. I was happy with the J8 shots and the first time I used the I61 L/D, I coincidentally discovered holes in the curtains. I think that subconsciously turned me off to the lens or anything.

I was doing some focus testing (just tape on the back of a FED2 - I don't have a better way of calibrating them) when I noticed just how sharp the Industar seemed to be. I need to give that lens another go.
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Old 02-25-2011   #51
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Am currently holding on to J8, I61LD & collapsible Fed LTM lense.
Although all are competent image makers, the I61 performs the best in terms of handling, sharpness & contrast followed by the J8 then the Fed. Love the Fed for its compact size and unique character though.
Ironincally my best experience with a lense was with a Helios in Kiev mount. When the light was right, it rendered 3D images with the subject sharp and full of details and the background smooth and with a shade less contrast (like it was covered in rice paper!) Unfortunately had to part with the lense because the camera just needed too much attention- needed to be repaired/adjusted after every roll.
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Jupitar 8 By Far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Jupitar 8 By Far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have so many Jupitar 8's and all of them, (except one) are fantastic lens!!!!!!!!!! MY problem is deciding which is the Best!!!!!!!! and you cant beat the price. a close second is the helios 103 by only because I dont care for ergonomics of the lens. It is in fact sharper than the Jupitar 8 but handling is not so great. The Jupitar always shines thru!!!!!!
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I have so many Jupitar 8's and all of them, (except one) are fantastic lens!!!!!!!!!! MY problem is deciding which is the Best!!!!!!!! and you cant beat the price. a close second is the helios 103 by only because I dont care for ergonomics of the lens. It is in fact sharper than the Jupitar 8 but handling is not so great. The Jupitar always shines thru!!!!!!

RE: Helios-103 handling...Are you referring to changing aperture rather than focussing? I prefer to turn the lens rather than using the finger wheel and am forever grabbing the wrong ring!


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Old 03-15-2011   #54
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Hard to find a Helios-103 in LTM, much easier to use on a Contax/Kiev or Nikon.



The Menopta is a rebranded Helios-103, came out in the 90s.

Helios-103 on the Nikon RF:

Brian, I take it that the Helios-103 requires some adjustment to focus properly on a Nikon RF?
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The Industar-61 has really nice OOF background when wide open ... but I have a special affinity for the Helios-103. Too bad it wasn't on the voting list.
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Old 03-16-2011   #56
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Just got the test roll back from my recently acquired FED-2 + Industar-26M. Rather pleased with how sharp the lens can be, but finding 2.8 a little slow for shooting indoors with 100/125 film (handholding 1/25 is a bit hit & miss for me...).

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Old 03-20-2011   #57
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Industar 26 can't say if it is my favourite as it is the only one I have.
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That's a tough question. My I61 , J12 and J3 as well as my Helios are all superb shooters. Even my Fed50 collapsible (uncoated) does a great job. I guess the I61 if I had to chose its so sharp and light .... hard to beat.
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Industar 61. It's the only one i have
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Old 04-07-2011   #60
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Hello every one. This thread is just for me since I am Russian and have had a lot of russian lens to use.
First of all I can not pass with attention some great russian lens which were built not for rangefinders but are still great lens:
1. T-22 - a wonderful Cooke triplet wich I used to have on my scale focusing Smena 8m 20 years ago.
2. Helios-81n (50mm f2) from Kiev-19 which can today be easily put on any modern Nikon - a great lens for my Nikon D70 which made my Nikkor 50 f1,4 idle on a shelf.
3. A wonderful Biogon copy Jupiter-9 which is a great portrait maker.

Now - the rangefinder lens. At last!

Strange, the was no Jupiter-12 (35mm f2,8 Biogon copy) included in the poll - great portraits with volume wide open + great sharp crisp detalisation when closed. Love this lens. It makes me want a Biogon for my M6.

Next. My favourite 50mm rangefinder lens is Jupiter-3:







My favourite 35mm rangefinder lens is Jupiter-12:







And the one I like for its vintage look is Industar-22:



Of course all my russian lens I use on russian cameras (Zorki-6 is my favourite) and do regret every time I have to use Nokton on my Leica instead of Jupiter-3 (yet.. Nokton is also my dearly loved..)

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First of all I can not pass with attention some great russian lens which were built not for rangefinders but are still great lens:
1. T-22 - a wonderful Cooke triplet wich I used to have on my scale focusing Smena 8m 20 years ago.
I'll second that. The Smena's lens has a nice charm to it. I'd count it as a rangefinder, though, because I use the BLIK add-on. But even with hyperfocal shooting, it's a surprisingly good little camera.

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A quick breath of life into this thread ... just purchased an Industar-26 50mm F2.8 lens from a fellow RFF member, and was quite surprised at the quality of this glass.

Here's a sample with Fuji Superia 400:



There were some other decent shots on this test roll, although I found the I-26 lens tended to flare when hit by oblique light, either from direct rays or diffused sunlight ... that was a bit disappointing. When the lens was used with the light source behind me, the photos all turned out very well. No flaring, and good colour + contrast. I suppose I'll have to dig up or make some sort of hood for this FSU lens to get the most utility out of it.

In terms of my fave FSU lenses, I'd still have to say the Jupiter-12, the Industar-52, and the Helios-103 have been the best performers for me overall.
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I favor my Jupiter 8 chrome
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I favor my Jupiter 8 chrome

It's Sharp, Contrasty, Focuses easily, and functions smoothly, but no slack.

But the most important reason I favor it, is because it's the only FSU lens I have for my Kneb Kiev. Why muddy the water with multiple selections.
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Old 08-09-2011   #64
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My favorite Russian lens- Jupiter-3 made from parts. New front element from Valdai J-3, 1955 KMZ optics module, Black J-3 focus mount.

Wide-open at F1.5, on the Leica M8.



Better late then never... The menopta and Helios-103 on the Nikon RF, undo the set screws and back off 1/2 turn. Tighten, and done.
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I own two, a collapsible 50 3.5 (Industar-50) and a Sonnar 50 1.5 (Jupiter-3), both made in the mid 50's by KMZ.

I like both very much. The I-50 is used for direct sun at around f/11 and 1/250 in general... Obviously, collapsed it's as compact as it gets on my IIIF for carrying... It also has very nice bokeh (!) at 3.5 when focused close, something that took me by surprise, but it's a nice plus...

My J3 is the lens I'm using the most some time ago... When it's not a sunny day, I use it... It's my favorite FSU lens because it's fast and really small, a lot more than I expected... But the most important reasons are: it has low contrast being sharp, with beautiful bokeh, and it's incredibly light... I don't know if all J3's from all manufacturers and decades are that light, but I'm amazed... Almost a joke!

I use it with ISO400 film at 200, and keep an ND9 on it, so for the highest soft light, I shoot at 1/2000 f/1.5, and below that I can use it (until 1/60 without ND) for light up to 8 stops lower, so I can use 1.5 for anything I want, everywhere... When there's direct sun and I want selective focus, I just put it on a light Bessa T body I carry with cap just for sun with the J3, with Acros, and I expose it at 1/2000 f/1.5 with orange filter without metering.

A really enjoyable lens...

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I use the Jupiter-3 as standard 50mm. The Industar 61/LD is something special too.

Industar 61/LD @2.8
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J-3 all the way. My '83 and I bonded after being Sweeneyfied. I took it a step further, when finally feeling confident enough and adjusted it to my particular camera. I also made a minor improvement by painting the the first lens's edge black and repainting the the second block as well. I feel that this has cut down on internal reflections a bit - hopefully boosting contrast.

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olivia and adriane by jamesfischer, on Flickr

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Of the two FSU lenses I own, I prefer the I-26M over the I-22 more for operating purposes. I like the fact that I can use the filter set from my Contax, instead of having to get clamp-ons for the I-22. And it looks realy good mounted on my Zorki 1D. Other than the flaring from pointing towards the sun, it performs as well as the I-22, and gives me another stop of exposure. A vented hood, and a clip-on cap completes the package. But I do like the I-22 for it's collapsing design, and the look it gives to the picture on a cloudy day.

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You really shoot very well! Congratulations on those four great photographs!

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You really shoot very well! Congratulations on those four great photographs!

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Has to be the Helios 103. I love the way it renders colors.
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Not a lens for rangefinder, but Russian nevertheless.
The humble Helios 58 f/2 (44M4), in low contrast scenes, i just love the results.


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I use three optical A52 50 MM I used about 7 Jupiter 8 on my 6 zork I kept one on my Kiev I found a fabulous view, excellent rendering for low prix.je just bought Jupiter 3, 1957 a completely wedged and greased for use on a Leica I got a good price, the current rates rise. Industar 22 an a very good optics. I hesitated between a 3 and a jupiter for my Helios kiev, I think now choose the helios 103
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My favorite FSU lens is a Sweeneyized J-3 in LTM- nuff said.
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Good question

I think it has to be the Jupiter-8 for me:





But the Industar-50 isn't too shabby either:

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Just voted for the Industar 26.

Been pretty impressed with results from that lens lately!
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I prefer Industar-22 or 50 lenses to Jupiter-8 due to their greater resolving power. I use Jupiter-8 mostly for portraits.
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I voted the J-3, but also own the I-22, I-50 and Helios-103, all are very nice, and I'd like to mention also the quite rare FED Makro 50mm 3.5 ( pricey,like a J-3).
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the I-22 is the only one i've got.
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Can I just say my Helios 103 is super sharp, and also the Helios 44M-4 in M42 is amazing as well, I in the process of comparing the Helios 44M-4 with my CZ T* 1.7 mounted on a Contax 137 the Helios using an M42 adapter, I will post results when I am done.
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