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Barber Shop 1 0.92%
Billingham 48 44.04%
Fogg 11 10.09%
Leica 3 2.75%
Oberwerth 2 1.83%
Ona 14 12.84%
Wotancraft 3 2.75%
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Which high end bag for your Leica M kit?
Old 06-24-2017   #1
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Which high end bag for your Leica M kit?

Which of the high end (as defined by the balance between quality and price) camera satchels would you choose for your Leica M kit, and why?

Would it be -

Barber Shop
Billingham
Fogg
Leica
Oberwerth
Ona
Wotancraft

Or would it be something else?

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Old 06-24-2017   #2
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I have a black Ona Berlin II.
The extra-long strap is what did it for me as I need the length. It's been used pretty heavily and is holding up reasonably well.
2 cameras. 3 lenses. Film. Notebook. Pen. Tabletop tripod. Cable release.
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Old 06-24-2017   #3
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I primarily use the Lowepro Lumina bags. I don't think they are made any more, but they have the right depth for a Leica. Plus, they don't look very expensive (and they aren't). However, they are built very well.

Also slim, and the right size for a Leica with lens mounted and a spare lens or flash unit is the Domke F-5XB. I have an M2 with 50mm and 90mm lenses in one now.

I have Tenba, Billingham Hadley Pro, and Leica branded bags. However, these tend to be too deep. You have to dig inside them for the camera. I use these with my SLRs or medium format gear. The problem with Billingham is that the bag itself says "steal me".
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Old 06-24-2017   #4
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For the Leica M, I prefer Artisan & Artist bags, or the derivative Black Label Bags that Photo Village (New York City) sells. The BLB "Oskar's One Day Bag II" is a bit trimmer and lighter than the Hadley Pro, yet holds as much and more due to being a bit more rectangularly shaped. I've been using it as my camera travel satchel since 2011. The BLB "Walker Evans II" is a bit smaller and lighter, perfect for a day kit with just two lenses (yes, you can stuff three in if you want). The equivalent ACAM and GCAM bags from A&A are also excellent and perhaps a little more easily available than the Black Label Bags.

The worst part about the BLB and A&A bag line is figuring out which bag is which ... their naming is often confusing. But the quality of the bags is very high and they are comfortable to wear and use, easy to live with, and fit the M gear very well.

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Old 06-24-2017   #5
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I use Fogg and Oberwerth, but much of the time I'm taking my gear along in a Timbuk2 camera bag as it works better. It protects the gear better and you don't worry about the bag getting abused.
I hate my Ona Bowery with a passion. Piece of junk unless u like a bag that has a buckle design that smacks your camera everytime you try to take it out of the bag. I just use it for storage now.
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Old 06-24-2017   #6
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Metal buckles = AARRRGH.

They are usually strategically placed, so that every time you open the case, the buckle with scratch and dent your camera's top. If you have the camera in a different orientation, it can break the glass on your viewfinder, or scratch your lens.

I get the cases that use zippers, or at most plastic buckles.
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Old 06-24-2017   #7
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Also slim, and the right size for a Leica with lens mounted and a spare lens or flash unit is the Domke F-5XB. I have an M2 with 50mm and 90mm lenses in one now.

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Domke certainly aren't designer bags but they're my favorite. No way I'd pay the price of the boutique bags. Same goes for straps and half cases. I'm a huge fan of Domke straps and bags.
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Old 06-24-2017   #8
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I'm with x-ray. Bad enough being foolish enough to pay the price of a small car for a digital rangefinder without going down the next path of putting it in a stupidly expensive bag. Domke is more than adequate for my needs.
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Old 06-24-2017   #9
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That's the whole point X-ray. You don't want a bag that says "expensive, steal me!" Most people think that a Leica is just an old fashioned looking antique camera. Let them keep thinking that.
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Old 06-24-2017   #10
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I use any canvas camera bag that I happen to own. There is no need to attract attention to Leica cameras by using high end bags. I use "low end bags".
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Old 06-24-2017   #11
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I have bags that I've used since the 70's. They're soiled and worn and dont attract attention.

Its kind of funny how some folks want their black paint cameras worn and brassing like they came out of the trenches of Vietnam then put them in a $600 designer bag. Sorry I don't want to be in that fashion show.
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Old 06-24-2017   #12
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I just ordered a BBB-E bag for one body and two or three lenses plus the usual accessories. Not cheap in my opinion but compact and very understated.
This for travel in Eastern Europe - (on very crowded subways and buses etc.)

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Old 06-24-2017   #13
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Have ordered fancy bags but always send them back. I have three Domke's including an original I purchased from Jim Domke when he was a working photographer back in the late 1970's. They work and work well.
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Old 06-24-2017   #14
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My only expensive bag is one I got free from an Agfa film promotion. In 1994 I used Agfapan 100 for my commercial work. I was doing a lot of fashion catalogs and ads and in the season shooting 75 or so rolls per day about 3 days a week. I kept all my film boxes and stuffed large garbage bags with them. It seems like you had to have 1000 proof of purchase and you'd get a special Domke F6 leather bag. It was super heavy but soft like glove leather and black. It had the insert in it too. I seem to remember Agfa said it was a $500 value. It's a really great bag and I still use it today. It's been all over the country on assignments and still holding up well. It'll probably outlast me.

Agfa also had Domke vests I picked up too and Fuji had premium loupes you could get for a certain number of Fujichrome proof of purchases. I got a half dozen and wound up giving bags of proof of purchases from Agfa and Fuji to friends to get their premiums. I miss the film days.
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Old 06-24-2017   #15
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Ummm . . . does my Thinktank Retrospective 5 count?
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Old 06-24-2017   #16
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Gee, and I thought the Domke bags were high end. Well for me they are.
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Old 06-24-2017   #17
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The nicest bag I have is the small Aneas for Leica. It just about fits one M and one extra lens, and features an ingenious captive sliding divider system I wish all others would copy, instead of nasty Velcro.

Wotancraft bags are also excellent. I have an Ona Berlin I and have to say I don't care much for the design or craftsmanship. You could add Killspencer, Hard Graft and dothebag for Monochrom to your list.
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Old 06-24-2017   #18
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I've had (and still have) Billingham and Fogg bags for years. Last year it was a toss up between an Oberwerth and Wotancraft. Would have been happy with either but Wotancraft had free shipping so bought their Ryker. It is an exceptional bag and I'm more than happy with my decision. But deep down I know I'll get an Oberwerth eventually. I didn't vote because all these companies make wonderful products.
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Old 06-24-2017   #19
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I have the Billingham Hadley Pro, the ONA Bowery and recently bought an ONA Berlin 1 (which I haven't used enough to comment on)
I disagree with some of the opinions above. I have the black Hadley Pro which I use daily. I take it to work with me usually with one body and my GR, as well as a Macbook Air. Once it's worn, it doesn't say steal me -- it says get this guy a new bag. It doesn't look much different from many other courier bags you see. Very happy with it.
I also like the ONA Bowery (cloth version), which is what I frequently use for street shooting, or when I'm going to take pictures at music venues. As long as I remember not to put anything in the back pocket I'm not prepared to lose, I'm really happy with it. Usually, I use it to carry one body with lens and one extra lens. I also used with the E-M5 with "Voigtlander Nokton 40mm f1.4 SC"mm for a short telephoto, and the X100T.
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Old 06-24-2017   #20
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Don't know about much about 'high end', I like the insulated cooler bags you can get from various low end stores. Won't pay more than $7.99 for mine! Best bang for the buck in camera bags.
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Gee, and I thought the Domke bags were high end. Well for me they are.
I'm with you. For my money, Domke is high end luxury.
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Old 06-25-2017   #22
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Right now I carry a Ona most days and it's great. A&A bags are on par.

The thing is though there isn't just one bag for me. It depends on what I'm doing.
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For the Leica M, I prefer Artisan & Artist bags... I've been using it as my camera travel satchel since 2011...
As have I, and it has held up remarkably well. Very well made with very high quality fabrics. The hardware on mine has brassed quite a lot, but there is nearly no wear to the fabrics. A Domke I carried this long before I got this bag looks a fair bit more battered- tho granted it was an F2 and carried more than this one has...

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...The worst part about the BLB and A&A bag line is figuring out which bag is which ... their naming is often confusing. But the quality of the bags is very high and they are comfortable to wear and use, easy to live with, and fit the M gear very well.

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Yes! There does seem to be overlap with different bags getting the same designation on eBay. And +1 on the comfort as well.
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I prefer vintage and antique bag for my vintage and antique cameras. Just as a Leica or Canon or Nicca are such quality that cannot be made today, good leather bags like this Perrin would have cost the equivalent of $300 when new. So when I got this one for $10, I'm happy, and convinced these old saddle leather shops knew what they were doing more than current companies try to portray.

How long will a Perrin last? Well, this one was used by a lifetime photographer, it's from about 1951.





I recommend you try vintage, before shopping for "high end" today.
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Old 06-25-2017   #25
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The Wontancraft – because their web site is salacious.

I owned a leather Ona, but it was too heavy, so I sold it. I would have ordered the canvas model but I realized I preferred a soft-sided bag over a box.
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I've used a bunch including Billingham. My favourites are my old Domke 803 and a very simple Slow Tools bag I got through Bellamy Hunt. Usually just an M and a couple of lenses or a Rolleiflex & a spotmeter.
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re: A&A bags again

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As have I, and it has held up remarkably well. Very well made with very high quality fabrics. The hardware on mine has brassed quite a lot, but there is nearly no wear to the fabrics. A Domke I carried this long before I got this bag looks a fair bit more battered- tho granted it was an F2 and carried more than this one has...
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Yes! There does seem to be overlap with different bags getting the same designation on eBay. And +1 on the comfort as well.
The other +1 is that they don't look particularly expensive or flashy. They're actually a bit dull and nondescript. They're expensive because they're well made of high quality materials and have a lot of hand-work in their construction. I suspect they'll last at least as well as my Domke's and Billinghams that I have as well. The problem I've found with several of the less expensive bags is that they wear out relatively quickly.

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Old 06-25-2017   #28
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I have a Billingham Hadley Pro which I use most of the time as long as I am not carrying enough stuff to cause shoulder and back pain. I can get away with carrying my M-P 240, 35/2 mounted on it, a second lightweight lens and a few accessories. A heavier load requires a day pack.

I have a Domke F803 which is about the right size for a walking around kit. Domkes are awfully good bags and their prices are well within reason IMHO. I have a Domke F802 which I don't use much for some unknown reason.

As someone else mentioned, I will pick my bag based on what I'm carrying and what I'm doing. The Bill Had Pro & the Domkes that I have are great for a day's walking around and photographing.

It's hard to beat the Billingham Hadley Pro IMHO. It is just a great bag and provides a lot of protection for my M kit. They are a little costly but are half the price of Fogg camera bags - a good balance between quality, craftsmanship, price and protection. Billinghams are high quality and nice looking without looking mega expensive like some of the more opulent leather or leather trimmed bags.
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I like the smaller Billinghams..
I wish they still made the 115 kh/tan model..it was just about perfect..
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has anyone ever been mugged and their cameras stolen? what kind of bag were you using? i haven't had the pleasure, and i use "fancy" bags as well as "utilitarian" bags.
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Darth...Domkes are high end to me too, because they are well designed, made of good materials & last very well. They're cheap too because mine have lasted more than 15 yrs without needing replacement.
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Aizan, that's why I use old vintage bags. My bag above was $10, but looks expensive. If they steal it and my Nicca with a Canon lens, I'm out of less money than most people have in their cell phones. It just has class. An M I guess is a little higher, but I'm not worried about muggings. Leaving it unattended, yes.
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Old 06-25-2017   #33
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I wasn't suggesting Domke aren't high end. They're as good as you can get as far as quality but they're really reasonably priced. Some of the new designs are getting pricy but I e never looked at one on person.

I had a couple of Perrin heavy leather cases years ago. One was a large double decker with and the other was a smaller version with two levels too. I think the smaller one had the Leica name on it. I used them heavily for years. The large one I carried 2 F3's and 9 AI lenses. Over many years of heavy use it got so ratty I got rid of it. I can't remember what I carried in the small one or what happened to it. I'm guessing it got ratty too and got tossed. I think I got both of them in the mid 70's.

I've got quite a few cases now. I use Temba air cases for my Speedotron black line heads and Force 10 monolites and acquired a really nice one when I bought my friends Hasselblad system. I've got several Rhino heavy duty bags I carry Speedotron power packs in. When traveling on jobs I shipped my strobes in the airlines cargo hold and never had a pack or head damaged.

On jobs I carry my digital gear in Lowepro backpacks or in a Tamrac rolling case. I think it's a Tamrac or could be a Temba. It handy for two bodies and 7 or 8 lenses with batteries and goodies.

If I'm traveling by air I have several fiber tubes for tripods and stands. I've never had any damage from airline mishandling using those too. I also use quite a few rigid aluminum clad anvil type cases for strobes and cables too. Those are just too heavy for daily use though.

Bags and cases are really an important consideration especially if you're traveling. Damaged equipment is lost money and lost time.
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Famous designers should get into the camera bag racket.

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Since a few weeks I usa an On a Roma insert which I put in a "strong" normal canvas bag.
Ok for an m camera + one lens.
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I wasn't suggesting Domke aren't high end. They're as good as you can get as far as quality but they're really reasonably priced. Some of the new designs are getting pricy but I e never looked at one on person.
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Bags and cases are really an important consideration especially if you're traveling. Damaged equipment is lost money and lost time.
Domke made the best bags around (in the USA!) for a long time, unless you want to pay Billingham prices, which were absurdly over the top. I have several Domkes, a couple up to 25+ years old. The problem that came up around the middle '00s when I went to look at a new F5XB is that the quality of the material and stitching isn't anywhere near as nice as on my F5XB, which I bought new somewhere around 1990 or so. They're also skimping on the material and length of the overflap now, and the price is 3x what my F5XB cost me back when, even in adjusted dollars.

I think this happened when they moved the production offshore. All of mine are old enough that they were made in the USA ... I have F5Xb, F3x, F6, and a very ancient, unnamed one I bought at a flea market with a Rolleiflex 3.5MX in it for $90 in 1983. I gave my F803 to a buddy in England a decade ago ... he's still using it. Excellent bags, all of them.

But for stuff I can buy new, now, with that old level of quality, the A&A and Billingham bags just satisfy me more.

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I prefer the closures and the discreet logo on the Billinghams to the metal buckles and logos on the Domkes. I have the Hadley Pro and it carries two OM bodies, six lenses, and a few odd and ends. When I travel, I can either fit my ThinkPad X220 laptop between the bag and insert, or slip an iPad in the rear pocket. I wouldn't want to carry anything larger. Many of the other bags listed are leather, and are too heavy, though they do look nice in the shop window.
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Here you go - the Louis Vuitton N58027, only $3500 USD: https://fstoppers.com/product/louis-...-3500-bag-8123

This monument to pretentiousness makes even a $600 Fogg camera bag look humble by comparison.
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Here you go - the Louis Vuitton N58027, only $3500 USD: https://fstoppers.com/product/louis-...-3500-bag-8123

This monument to pretentiousness makes even a $600 Fogg camera bag look humble by comparison.
That's why I had to vote for "other"
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Here you go - the Louis Vuitton N58027, only $3500 USD: https://fstoppers.com/product/louis-...-3500-bag-8123

This monument to pretentiousness makes even a $600 Fogg camera bag look humble by comparison.
I wonder if they have it in blue? ...

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