What is your favorite combination for overcast day
Old 03-07-2017   #1
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What is your favorite combination for overcast day

I am curious about your preferences at overcast days. What is your film and developer combination? It would be great if you can share images as well.
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Normally HP5+ at 800, D-76 1:1


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Old 03-07-2017   #3
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I have two favorites for full or partially overcast days:

Tri-X with XTOL 1+1

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HP5 with HC-110 Dilution B (see photo below)


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I like to shoot on sunny days!
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Overcast light is the most beautiful light for BW work, in my opinion. All of the film/developer combinations that I have tried work beautifully. Getting good tonality in harsh sunlight is FAR more difficult.

I could post a hundred pics here done with all the major BW films out there and they'd all look great. there really isn't any best one for it.
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I like to shoot on sunny days!
I actually prefer shooting in partially overcast days, when there is barely a hint of sunshine. I live near the desert in Southern California (Mediterranean climate) and the sunlight can get pretty harsh.
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I actually prefer shooting in partially overcast days, when there is barely a hint of sunshine. I live near the desert in Southern California (Mediterranean climate) and the sunlight can get pretty harsh.
Overcast is just sooo boooring where I live...



20120924-35Tmax400-3489
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Seriously, in The Netherlands the air humidity is quite high, even on a sunny day. It tones the harshness down. And I like blue skies and bright colors more than B&W...



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HP5+ @ ei200 developed in HC-110 Dilution H.

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Overcast is just sooo boooring where I live... ... The Netherlands...
Funny because I would never equate the word 'boring' with the Netherlands... but maybe I'm getting off-topic...
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I live for overcast dreary days! I go with my Sony A7II and the Voigtlander Nokton 50mm f1.1 lens.



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I've had good success with Tri-X in Xtol. Rolleiflex 6006, 80mm.



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I'm like kxl I live in a sunny mostly climate. I find overcast days a challenge as I'm set up for SUN. But I like any film, but with even a slight edge to Arista EDU ultra films. The Arista EDU ultra films I find contrasty but in overcast and indoors they give snap that my sunny days films and developers don't. I suppose that if I tried with the sunny days film they would be the same. Anyway being lazy I just pull out the Arista when we have the occasional cloudy day.

I use a purposely poor lens for this shot.

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Whiskey and a book.

I like to shoot on sunny days!
Beside the fun, I always find to print an overcast image so "boring" in terms of grey separation. I tried lots of combinations but none of them could beat a lowered sunny day light. Let me share some boring and joyful pictures in terms of tone for me.

Here are borings :







And lights that I like:









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Neopan SS was nice for getting "moody" results on rainy days.
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Old 03-07-2017   #17
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Beside the fun, I always find to print an overcast image so "boring" in terms of grey separation. I tried lots of combinations but none of them could beat a lowered sunny day light. ....
Overcast can't beat afternoon light. It just doesn't have the same modeling qualities. There's one exception: right before an electrical storm. All sorts of magical things happen then. A couple of your shots above are made with light that veers in that direction.

As to which film/developer for overcast weather: I use routinely Trix at nominal speed with D76. It doesn't get more basic than that. ISO 400 films are practically designed with overcast weather in mind and they give proper contrast with viable shutter speeds for moving subjects. If we are talking UK-in-January kind of overcast then I push one stop. Heck, maybe even two. In which case HP5+ also looks really nice.

Nice shots by the way Taylan, nothing boring about them.

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I've been using Ilford Pan 400 with HC110 for the past year. I'm going to shoot some HP5 this year.

All Pan 400 with HC110 (B)







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Fuji Acros 100, developed in Rodinal 1+50



Ilford HP5, Developed in PMK



Ilford FP4, Developed in PMK



Kodak Tmax 100, Developed in Rodinal 1+50



Kodak Tri-X, Developed in Xtol 1+1


Kodak Tmax 100, Developed in Rodinal 1+50
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I'm total amateur who has film camera in the bag every day for five years by now. I load cameras with BW film and it lasts in the camera for weeks often. Sunny day, foggy morning, indoors, overcast afternoons. All are taken on single roll. I prefer HP5+ in bulks, but Kentmere 400 is less expensive.
Guess what?
It doesn't really matter. With modern bw films it is absolutely doesn't matter as long as you capable to handle exposure right.

I prefer to have yellow filter on old single coated lenses for slightly better sky, but with modern lenses I don't see any difference.

I develop film according to the common data in common developers like HC-110, D-76, XTOL, Rodinal. Some differences are present, but it has nothing to do with overcast, fog or sun.

I'm looking at digital scans above and they are all the same as it could be on sunny day.
Because of processing of the scan. These days I prefer darkroom prints. Less shadows details, resolution as at scans above, but I could get with my digital Leica camera.
I like prints not for details and resolution for the feel of art:





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Suppose rodinal in 1:25 would do well. Don't you want more contrast on overcast days?
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Anything works, but I would use medium contrast film and develop perhaps 10% more. If more required, print with higher contrast paper or condenser enlarger.

That said, unless I were doing portraits or fog shots, I prefer to stay indoors or pursue something else like woodworking.
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I think you are right Alkis. It is unfair to compare them. I just wondered what people prefer. I am generally using 400 films @400 at overcast days. Also I got much better results with 100 films but in that case I have lack of shutter speed. Anyway we have to live with that

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Overcast can't beat afternoon light. It just doesn't have the same modeling qualities. There's one exception: right before an electrical storm. All sorts of magical things happen then. A couple of your shots above are made with light that veers in that direction.

As to which film/developer for overcast weather: I use routinely Trix at nominal speed with D76. It doesn't get more basic than that. ISO 400 films are practically designed with overcast weather in mind and they give proper contrast with viable shutter speeds for moving subjects. If we are talking UK-in-January kind of overcast then I push one stop. Heck, maybe even two. In which case HP5+ also looks really nice.

Nice shots by the way Taylan, nothing boring about them.

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Thank you Chris. You gave me some ideas I have never try PMK. It is nice to see some result with it.
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Suppose rodinal in 1:25 would do well. Don't you want more contrast on overcast days?
Sure. That's what I want but not differences between blacks and whites. I also don't want to loose gray speration. That is the hard part.
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Thank you Chris. You gave me some ideas I have never try PMK. It is nice to see some result with it.

I love PMK. The tonality I get is incredible. My favorite films with it are Ilford FP4 and Ilford HP5. It works great with Fuji Acros 100, Kodak Tmax 100 and Tmax 400. I don't like it with Tri-X; I think D-76 is a better developer for that film.
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For people photography, I have found that overcast light is best. I consider it like having a softbox up in the sky! I can perform additional things to do sculpting with light on faces of subjects.

I have photos I made of beautiful sky while in places like Florida. If I want to change the sky in a photograph, like what I've experienced like Florida, I can slide those in using layers in PS. You know what, I have never had to use any of my sky photos. Faces are at the center of photographs I make!

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