Go Back   Rangefinderforum.com > Cameras / Gear / Photography > Rangefinder Forum > Image Processing: Darkroom / Lightroom / Film > Photo Software

Photo Software Discussions of all the photo software - except scanning software which is in the forum with scanners.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes

Photos for OSX Revealed
Old 02-05-2015   #1
MaxElmar
Registered User
 
MaxElmar's Avatar
 
MaxElmar is offline
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Central New Jersey
Posts: 588
Photos for OSX Revealed

Nice introduction at Re/Code. Did not see it in this article, but the software is supposed to be extensible with plug-ins. This could make up for the current lack of some features found in Aperture. (Hope I'm using the word "extensible" correctly.) And, before someone bursts a blood vessel over it, storing everything in iCloud is completely optional.

http://recode.net/2015/02/05/first-l...-for-mac-os-x/
__________________
Chris L.

Still Photographically Uncool
https://www.flickr.com/photos/xenotar/


  Reply With Quote

Old 02-05-2015   #2
Godfrey
somewhat colored
 
Godfrey's Avatar
 
Godfrey is offline
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,961
I'm encouraged by what I've seen.

G
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-05-2015   #3
Darthfeeble
But you can call me Steve
 
Darthfeeble's Avatar
 
Darthfeeble is offline
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Logtown, California, USA
Age: 72
Posts: 1,465
I don't care for iPhoto, but I just adore Aperture. Sounds like my ship is sinking. I'll use Aperture as long as I can and keep my Lightroom skills somewhat up to date.
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-05-2015   #4
johannielscom
Ich bin ein Barnacker
 
johannielscom's Avatar
 
johannielscom is offline
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Universitas Terre Threntiae
Posts: 7,345
Quote:
While Apple believes that Photos will offer enough to satisfy many current Aperture users and pros, the company said it also understands that others might opt for a more powerful editing program like Adobe Lightroom.
Glad I use Lightroom already... Seems Apple chose to cater for the masses, not for the professional anymore...
__________________
Gegroet,
Johan Niels

I write vintage gear reviews on www.johanniels.com |

flickr | instagram |
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-05-2015   #5
danielsterno
making soup from mud
 
danielsterno's Avatar
 
danielsterno is offline
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 853
at least there is "something coming". I assumed that for more sophisticated users there would be partnering apps for additional PP, besides silver efex etc.
__________________
imperfection is beauty,
madness is genius,
and its better to be absolutely ridiculous,
than absolutely boring.

pencil/paint/M6/M5/Fuji x100

flickr:https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-05-2015   #6
rolfe
Registered User
 
rolfe's Avatar
 
rolfe is offline
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Egremont, MA
Posts: 389
Apple is supposedly offering a "path" to migrate existing iPhoto libraries to Lightroom.

Frankly, if I were still using iPhoto with it's weird proprietary library database, that's the solution I'd run, not walk, to.
__________________
My Flickr
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-05-2015   #7
GaryLH
Registered User
 
GaryLH's Avatar
 
GaryLH is offline
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,180
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthfeeble View Post
I don't care for iPhoto, but I just adore Aperture. Sounds like my ship is sinking. I'll use Aperture as long as I can and keep my Lightroom skills somewhat up to date.
Same here..the new photo app is not for me..

Gary
__________________
Panasonic LX100, Sigma Foveon, Fuji X and Panasonic CM1
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-05-2015   #8
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
 
Rob-F's Avatar
 
Rob-F is offline
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The Show Me state
Age: 78
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darthfeeble View Post
I don't care for iPhoto, but I just adore Aperture. Sounds like my ship is sinking. I'll use Aperture as long as I can and keep my Lightroom skills somewhat up to date.
I have some photos in iPhoto. It's OK, but I love what I can do with Aperture. I bought Lightroom after reading about it, but abandoned it after a brief try. And abandoned is how I feel now that Apple is ditching Aperture. You would think that a company that owes its existence to its loyal customers would think twice before altering the operating system of future Macs so as to shut Aperture out. Well, I won't buy any Apple computer that won't run Aperture. Maybe I will pick up an extra Macbook and iMac for security. But you can only install a copy of Aperture on two computers. What to do about that? Can we get someone to hack the program so it can be installed on more Macs?

I wonder if we could get together as a group to exert pressure on Apple to keep Aperture going.
__________________
May the light be with you.
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-05-2015   #9
Rob-F
Likes Leicas
 
Rob-F's Avatar
 
Rob-F is offline
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: The Show Me state
Age: 78
Posts: 5,889
"While Apple believes that Photos will offer enough to satisfy many current Aperture users and pros, the company said it also understands that others might opt for a more powerful editing program like Adobe Lightroom."

A more powerful program? OK, how about Aperture?
__________________
May the light be with you.
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-05-2015   #10
Lss
Registered User
 
Lss is offline
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,799
I have been using Lightroom since the news from Apple. It's not a terrible experience, and it obviously has powerful features that Aperture lacked, but I still much prefer the Aperture experience. It was so straightforward and powerful enough for most projects and images. If there was future for Aperture, I would not have migrated.

Perhaps Photos will be useful as an album presentation software or something.
__________________
Lasse
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-06-2015   #11
MaxElmar
Registered User
 
MaxElmar's Avatar
 
MaxElmar is offline
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Central New Jersey
Posts: 588
Currently, I'm using Aperture simply as a bridge to get carefully edited versions and sets of my best photos from my real cameras into iCloud, out to my family, and on my iPhone and iPad. It seems like Photos will serve that purpose quite well.

It would be great if, with some 3rd party plug-ins, Photos developed into a genuine alternative to LR (as Aperture was a few years ago). If my boss pays me to use Adobe products, that's fine, but as a consumer, I like having choices, I like competition.
__________________
Chris L.

Still Photographically Uncool
https://www.flickr.com/photos/xenotar/


  Reply With Quote

Old 02-06-2015   #12
Aristophanes
Registered User
 
Aristophanes is offline
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 802
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob-F View Post
"While Apple believes that Photos will offer enough to satisfy many current Aperture users and pros, the company said it also understands that others might opt for a more powerful editing program like Adobe Lightroom."

A more powerful program? OK, how about Aperture?
Tiny and, frankly, shrinking, market.
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-06-2015   #13
willie_901
Registered User
 
willie_901's Avatar
 
willie_901 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 5,293
The new Photos is simply iPhoto on steroids.

i use iPhotos for photos I did not make or for situations when I use an iPhone for record keeping involving images. I use it sparingly for family video. I do use it for my personal and commerce web sites. I export JPEGs frm LR to iPhoto to seamlessly use them in Sandovx (a web site development app).

I'll use Photos the same way.

I do feel badly for photographers who enjoy Aperture. But that ship is headed for decommissioning. I suggest exporing Pixelmator as a powerful, economical alternate platform.
__________________
Basically, I mean, ah—well, let’s say that for me anyway when a photograph is interesting, it’s interesting because of the kind of photographic problem it states—which has to do with the . . . contest between content and form.
Garry Winogrand
williamchuttonjr.com
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-06-2015   #14
Godfrey
somewhat colored
 
Godfrey's Avatar
 
Godfrey is offline
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,961
Quote:
Originally Posted by willie_901 View Post
...
I do feel badly for photographers who enjoy Aperture. But that ship is headed for decommissioning. I suggest exporing Pixelmator as a powerful, economical alternate platform.
Pixelmator is a completely different kind of image processing application. It's not a platform, nor are any of these apps. Pixelmatr is more similar to Photoshop Essentials, Photoshop CC, etc.

Lightroom and DarkTable (open source) are the most similar to Aperture in terms of functionality (integrated image management and parametric image editing). Capture One is close in some ways too.

I've never been a "fan" of iPhoto or Aperture, although I've used both over the years for various things. The Lightroom workflow is right in line with how I think, using it has been a natural since the second Public Beta in 2005. But what I've seen of Photos is actually encouraging, and its extensible design might put it right in there for many.

G
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-06-2015   #15
dasuess
Nikon Freak
 
dasuess's Avatar
 
dasuess is offline
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Age: 67
Posts: 505
As a long time user of Aperture, I have been holding out to see what the new Photos app will be like. While I realize that it can be extended by 3rd party stuff, that's not gonna happen fast or soon.

I have started looking into Lightroom... What exactly do you get with the Creative Cloud/Photography subscription? Just LR and PS? Has anyone used the function to import an Aperture (referenced) library into LR?
__________________
"You can't count on others to think or see for you." David Vestal, The Craft of Photography

David A. Suess
Nikon Df: 24/f2.8, 28/f3.5, 35f/2, 43-86/f3.5, 55/f3.5 Micro, 85/f1.8, 105/f2.5, 180/f2.8, 200/f4, 300/f4.5
http://DavidSuessImages.com
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-06-2015   #16
Samouraï
Registered User
 
Samouraï's Avatar
 
Samouraï is offline
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 496
I hate Lightroom's library organization method. I loved the simplicity of Aperture's. I need the ability to be able to move libraries around and will, between servers and external hard drives. Lightroom is an absolute mess for this.

But if I ever switch to another photo-managing software, I'll be using Capture One.

Right now, I've migrated to Adobe Bridge + Photoshop.
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-06-2015   #17
Godfrey
somewhat colored
 
Godfrey's Avatar
 
Godfrey is offline
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,961
Quote:
Originally Posted by Samouraï View Post
I hate Lightroom's library organization method. I loved the simplicity of Aperture's. I need the ability to be able to move libraries around and will, between servers and external hard drives. Lightroom is an absolute mess for this.

But if I ever switch to another photo-managing software, I'll be using Capture One.

Right now, I've migrated to Adobe Bridge + Photoshop.
LR and Capture One use almost exactly the same model of file to catalog organization: entry by reference. If you hate one, you should hate the other.

What I always disliked about iPhoto and Aperture was exactly their "library organization" (or "managed files" system) ... They hide the directory structure of a bunch of files behind a single icon representation in an opaque fashion and use that file system structure as a part of the database logic itself. I was delighted when they added the ability to manage files by reference, just like Lightroom.

G
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-06-2015   #18
Godfrey
somewhat colored
 
Godfrey's Avatar
 
Godfrey is offline
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 8,961
Quote:
Originally Posted by dasuess View Post
As a long time user of Aperture, I have been holding out to see what the new Photos app will be like. While I realize that it can be extended by 3rd party stuff, that's not gonna happen fast or soon.
I don't know about that. Apple introduced that capability for iOS with iOS 8 in the Fall, and I already have a dozen apps that I can call from inside Photos on iOS to do editing with. The trick is how it's implemented... makes it easy to write an app extension.

Quote:
Originally Posted by dasuess View Post
I have started looking into Lightroom... What exactly do you get with the Creative Cloud/Photography subscription? Just LR and PS? Has anyone used the function to import an Aperture (referenced) library into LR?
I use Lightroom and Photoshop with perpetual licenses. There's no addition to LR given by CC, far as I know. Photoshop CC is extended with the CC subscription, but I use PS so infrequently that I've stuck with CS5.1.

G
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-06-2015   #19
danielsterno
making soup from mud
 
danielsterno's Avatar
 
danielsterno is offline
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 853
I'm a aperture user, not a heavy user but enjoy the UI and managing the libraries. I mostly PP in Silver Efex and only do very light Aperture PP thus MAYBE Photo can work for a user like me as long as I can keep using Silver Efex. I tried LR from the trial, as much as I wanted to make it work, I just don't get the user interaction. change is OK but forced change without good user interface product optons is not OK. .... I'll stay with Aperture as log as I can and hoping Photos can work
__________________
imperfection is beauty,
madness is genius,
and its better to be absolutely ridiculous,
than absolutely boring.

pencil/paint/M6/M5/Fuji x100

flickr:https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
  Reply With Quote

Old 02-06-2015   #20
dasuess
Nikon Freak
 
dasuess's Avatar
 
dasuess is offline
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Age: 67
Posts: 505
Well, I have downloaded the LR 30-day trial and attempted to import my main Aperture Library and it failed. From the web it appears that others have experienced the same problem, so I'm giving up on that.

I'm going to just create a new LR catalog by importing some/all of my masters and then try it out. Won't be losing much since the adjustments done in Aperture won't come over anyway (unless I create file for each adjusted image).

I haven't committed to LR yet, but now is as good a time as any to check it out as a place to land when Aperture is no longer supported.
__________________
"You can't count on others to think or see for you." David Vestal, The Craft of Photography

David A. Suess
Nikon Df: 24/f2.8, 28/f3.5, 35f/2, 43-86/f3.5, 55/f3.5 Micro, 85/f1.8, 105/f2.5, 180/f2.8, 200/f4, 300/f4.5
http://DavidSuessImages.com
  Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 00:29.


vBulletin skin developed by: eXtremepixels
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

All content on this site is Copyright Protected and owned by its respective owner. You may link to content on this site but you may not reproduce any of it in whole or part without written consent from its owner.