Rookie mistake on my M3....
Old 06-02-2014   #1
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Rookie mistake on my M3....

So I snapped the last frame on my M3, proceeded to flip the camera around, twisted the knob open and removed the bottom case.

THEN I REALISED: I did NOT rewind the roll!

I quickly replaced the plate and sheepishly wound it, all the while hoping nobody caught my embarrassing mistake. This is what happens when you shoot digital for too long - you forget things and I thought it I was swapping some memory cards.

Question: Are all my negatives hopelessly exposed? Would I be able to salvage the first 5-10 exposures (those that were reeled tight against the take-up spool.
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Old 06-02-2014   #2
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Depends on how fast you were, i.e. how much light got in, also fast film? Broad daylight? If the bottom came off fully in anything other than a dark room, I think you'd be lucky to get unaffected shots, even frame 1, but you never know.
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Old 06-02-2014   #3
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no definitely not ... you should only lose a few at the end

Its tightly rolled and all the emulsion is still on the film
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Old 06-02-2014   #4
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I made the same mistake a while ago on a Voigtlander Bessa and only the last 6-7 frames were lost.
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Old 06-02-2014   #5
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... the last bit looked like this, a blistering hot day at lake Korission, deafened by cicadas eaten by mosquitos and rushing off to a bar for a drink, was my excuse

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Old 06-02-2014   #6
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I did exactly the same just the other day!

The first few frames were lost completely (maybe 6 or 7 as stated above), but further into the roll it was only the edges that suffered.

I felt like a total idiot. 10 or so years of shooting film and I suddenly decide to do that?! And only after 2 pints of beer too!

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Old 06-02-2014   #7
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Lol thanks for sharing your stories and reactions. I'm hoping to develop them sometime this week and would post my results.

So glad I'm not alone!
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Old 06-02-2014   #8
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I was just happy to see that someone has been as stupid as me



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Old 06-02-2014   #9
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I recently shot a 36exp roll of self-loaded Fomapan 400 (crappy B&W film). I trued for one too many shots and it came off the canister. I didn't want to risk damage to my M6, although it vwoukd have easy to retrieve in a non- Leica back design.
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Old 06-02-2014   #10
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Been there done that a few times. Oh I could tell you some stories... lol

Buy some more film and move on. It's not like your wife left you or anything.
How lucky are we that we get to make mistakes like that.
.......... With digital it can all be lost in a nano second. lol

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Old 06-02-2014   #11
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Did the exact same thing with an M6TTL... and it took me a couple of seconds to realize that the strange thing in the camera was film!

Don't be surprised if we meet and you see me pick up a camera and wind the take up spool, just to make sure there's no film in it. You learn from your mistakes. Take care and keep shooting!
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...and add me to the list!

But with a Pentax ME F. Lost the last couple of exposures, but that was all. I did catch myself pretty quickly though, so didn't have the film door all the way open.
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I was just happy to see that someone has been as stupid as me
...and as me as well!
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Old 06-02-2014   #14
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Old 06-02-2014   #15
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There's probably nobody who has ever shot much film who hasn't done that and worse. Re your film, the last several exposures will probably be goners, and many before that might have a bit of bleed through the sprocket holes. Pictures at the beginning of the roll are likely to be unaffected.

For the pictures that are ruined, no problem, just call them Lomography! With any luck, people may decide that you're an artistic genius.

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Old 06-02-2014   #16
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did that to a friend's M6 after another friend (new to film) handed it to me and asked me to show her how to put a roll of film in, because she didn't know how.

i opened it up and was like "oh yeah you just slot this par........... uhh.... <to my friend> sorry man, but i think i just ruined like 10 of your shots"

they came out not too bad, lol. never assume they're lost, just assume you'll have to crop quite a bit in post.
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Old 06-02-2014   #17
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Been there, done that on several cameras!

That's why newer cameras have windows in the back door to let you see the film. Interestingly old 120 cameras had the red window so you could check that way. We went backwards for a bit I guess.
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Old 06-02-2014   #18
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If you've never done that--or something close to it--you haven't shot enough film. It happens.
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Old 06-02-2014   #19
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Done that a few times. I've also developed film, luckily only 1 roll, in stop bath and couldn't figure out why the roll came out blank. I've lost some shots that I didn't want to lose because of my stupidity, but oh well, that's the way it goes.
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Yep, I've done that a couple of times :-) Its a classic DOH! moment….another is when you pour the fixer into your development tank FIRST…. :-) I've only done that once…. so far
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no definitely not ... you should only lose a few at the end

Its tightly rolled and all the emulsion is still on the film
I have done the same thing, it is an easy mistake to make. I now make a point of immediately rewinding at the end of a roll so I don't get confused.

Stewart is correct - you will lose some frames at the end but the majority should be usable. You may find some exposure along the edges even in the middle of the roll, but most frames will be fine.

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I had mine open all the way, in the Arizona sun. I lost about half of the surface area, it was trix film. Six or so exposures were not exposed accidentally at all.

In my defense, I was 7 rolls in on an all day shoot, and I was exhausted!
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Old 06-02-2014   #23
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Done that more than once or twice...my guess would be that most if not all of us have done that...
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I have done the same thing, it is an easy mistake to make. I now make a point of immediately rewinding at the end of a roll so I don't get confused.

Stewart is correct - you will lose some frames at the end but the majority should be usable. You may find some exposure along the edges even in the middle of the roll, but most frames will be fine.

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... yes that's my routine, (shoot last frame then rewind immediately) ... it was just that day I was so exposed and it was so, so hot I put it back in the bag and headed for some shade ... moral of this story; if one has a routine, stick to it
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Old 06-03-2014   #26
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I did this recently on my m6. I opened the back is a dimly lot room and only the last couple of shots were completely ruined but quite a few shots showed some light leakage at the edge like this.

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Done it too.
I think worse is when you don't tape the end down properly on a bulk rolled roll and just keep on shooting. There's the moment where you wonder when the roll will end, and then you realise its all would onto the take up spool.

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I did exactly the same just the other day!

The first few frames were lost completely (maybe 6 or 7 as stated above), but further into the roll it was only the edges that suffered.

I felt like a total idiot. 10 or so years of shooting film and I suddenly decide to do that?! And only after 2 pints of beer too!

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You should know you shouldn't try that after ONLY two pints..

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I've read this thread, and reminded myself to be careful and avoid such mistake as I start using film again after a long hiatus. And what do I do tonight... open the bottom before rewinding the film. Whoops. Hopefully most of the roll isn't too bad. It has been a week of lessons with film - some good and some tough. But at the end of the day, returning to film has been so much fun.
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You can also get interesting effects from that... https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/8657864009/

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Did the exact same thing with an M6TTL... and it took me a couple of seconds to realize that the strange thing in the camera was film!
Ha, ha, my same impression, Francisco! Except it was not my M but, instead, a Contax T3. I flipped open the door, stared at the film for awhile, then slammed the door shut in horror. Only lost three frames: thank god for the anti-halation layer.
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haha.. happens to me sometimes as well.
usually the frames are still usable.
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You don't have to be a Rookie, to make errors!
Shooting Leica since 60's one would think loading an M7,
(borrowed) would be a breeze!
Well i hadn't placed it properly..so I had to re-shoot.
Pulling film out of canister, with my Nikon-F's in Summer heat and humidity, is easier than sneezing!
Fuji film a specialty.
I did a model shoot once with no film..inside the box.
Opened a Nikkormat at a wedding before rewinding.
Only a few frames were lost, all re-doable.There and then.
It's not making the mistake but how fast one counters the error.
That is a pro thing!
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As number of people have said so far, it is not uncommon error. I can confirm that most of the roll was salvaged, with only the last few frames badly affected. However most of the frames had some light leak along the bottom, but only minor.
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that happened once with my m4p when i was on a intercity bus in korea, i actually liked the effects and didn't lose any pictures. (on tmax 400)



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