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CSC : Digital Compact System Cameras - This new category of digital Compact System Cameras with interchangeable lenses was mislabeled for a time as "Mirrorless Cameras" by those forgetting about "Mirrorless" Rangefinder cameras.  Such confusion is easily understandable, since interchangeable rangefinder cameras were only recently introduced in 1932.  hmm.    CSC or Compact System Camera is probably the best category description to date, although I am fond of the old RFF desigation of  CEVIL  indicating Compact Electronic Viewfidner Interchangeable Lens.   This forum is here at RFF because via adapters these cameras offer an inexpensive way to use rangefinder lenses on digital cameras -- in addition of just about every 35mm SLR lens you can think of.  All  offer the photo enthusiast an incredible array of adopted lenses which was not possible before these new digital formats.   This group continues to grow in popularity and new camera models! 

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Old 04-24-2014   #1
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Question Leica T "accidentally revealed"...

...on since-removed site. More interesting tidbits over on this site.

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... is it under $1000?
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... is it under $1000?

Depends on how you define "under" ....
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... is it under $1000?
$3k for the body, 4k for the kit allegedly.

I think I'll take two A7's for that money, and spend the change on beer
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Having gone through the specs, I don't see where this camera outperforms the already out of production Sony NEX-5N...Lenses are better, but there's only two.

Maybe Leica really is too rich for my blood
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question really is accidentally revealed vs accidentally released.
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I think the thing's ugly personally ... which is pretty big coming from someone who really likes the styling of the Sigma DPMs!
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I'm sure they'll find a market for it. It won't be me, however.
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Looks like there will be a M - T mount adapter and "Visoflex".
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Looks like there will be a M - T mount adapter.
Or are they just making more 'M - T' promises?
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Too little too late for photographers... but probably will go over with fashion folks. Well, and those that are lucky enough to spend $4000 like I'd spend $200 (not judging either).
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I will not buy this camera. There is no way that this camera can be 6 times ($3000 vs. $500) better than my X-E1.
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Damnit. Why can't they make something cool?
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I am not in either camp, but I will not buy this camera. There is no way that this camera can be 6 times ($3000 vs. $500) better than my X-E1.
Neither am I but I thought that we`d understood by now that value for money has never been the benchmark.
That is why BW magazine in their review of the M240 today "would find it hard to recommend it as a photographic tool".
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Damnit. Why can't they make something cool?
You don't recall the limited edition white M8 then?
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$3,000 USD - Body Only.

Does it talk for that price? How about cook breakfast?
Can I hop on it and take it for a spin around the block?

And this is supposed to be competition for Fuji, Olympus and Sony?

*LOL*

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You don't recall the limited edition white M8 then?
Was that the white ostrich skin M8, the white rhino skin M8 or the white elephant skin M8 (with added gold plating and a large recurring bill for hay bales)? I tend to forget these things...

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Oh dear. It's the same size as a fuji xe2. And it doesn't have a built in viewfinder. Or controls on the rear. And the kit lens is a stop slower on the wide and tele end than the fuji zoom, and it's not even particularly smaller.

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Back in the day, we were once admonished by upper upper management .... "We are not in the business of making turbines. We're in the business of making money".

Seems to me that Leica has this same mindset.
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Oh dear. It's the same size as a fuji xe2. And it doesn't have a built in viewfinder. Or controls on the rear. And the kit lens is a stop slower on the wide and tele end than the fuji zoom, and it's not even particularly smaller.
So much for that "competition"... *LOL*


I can't stop laughing...

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Oh dear. It's the same size as a fuji xe2. And it doesn't have a built in viewfinder. Or controls on the rear. [my emphasis] And the kit lens is a stop slower on the wide and tele end than the fuji zoom, and it's not even particularly smaller.
It has a touch screen. How modern! How wonderful!! And the touch screen is on the rear. What more could you want?

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So it's the same size as an X-e1, three times the cost and way behind on features.

I can handle minimalism in a camera .... but at a fair price!
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Well, I like it. So there!
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...on since-removed site. More interesting tidbits over on this site.

Let the bash...err...wild speculation begin...



Edit: ::sigh::, it's "accidentally", not "accidentallt"; perhaps it's accidental & gestalt.
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Why is everyone so quick to condemn and ridicule a camera that has not yet been presented by Leica? Sure, I am not at all attracted by what I see so far; but wouldn't it make sense to see what image quality it produces before damning it?

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I'm just going to say the kit lens is $1750us, and it looks to *me* to have inferior optical quality to both the $900 olympus 12-40 and the $700 fuji 18-55mm.
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Once again, Leica passes up the opportunity to release a camera that gives people a 21st century version of the M camera. Must be deliberate.
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That's a lovely Samsung.
Yes, body shape is remarkably similar to the Samsung NX*000 series but at least Leica give you the option of a viewfinder. I wish Samsung would make a 23mm lens, my 30mm f2 is often not quite wide enouigh....
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There are times when I really wish this forum had a facebook like "like button." This is one of those times.
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It's genuinely different, I like the fact that it's milled from a single piece of aluminium. I can't imagine swapping my X100 for one but I applaud the fact we have more choice.

Yes, it's expensive, but look how many expensive things we have to buy - electricity, insurance - and don't have any choice about it. I hope it does well for them.
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It's genuinely different, I like the fact that it's milled from a single piece of aluminium. I can't imagine swapping my X100 for one but I applaud the fact we have more choice.

Yes, it's expensive, but look how many expensive things we have to buy - electricity, insurance - and don't have any choice about it. I hope it does well for them.
It is genuinely different. I can't believe some are comparing it to a Fuji. Its a Leica. It was never intended to be like a fuji.
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Have You already started drinking this early Jeff....
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I would love one, you ready?

Very early thoughts ... the price has already dropped from the rumored 3,000 to 1,850 for the body. A Nex 7 (what I see it similar to) sits around 1,000. If the sensor is similar to the 5n with regards to Leica glass and it has an OEM adapter available as well as what looks like a much improved EVF, then why not? I think it is a lot more camera and much better priced than the X Vario. There are lots of little interesting details beyond the unibody. The strap system looks interesting, for example. I see it, less the lens, as a better X series with a mount for M glass -at about the same price.
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