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Old 07-25-2017   #1
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Peta Pixel article on film.

Thought you might enjoy reading this article:

https://petapixel.com/2017/07/22/top...photographers/

I like the number one pick!
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interesting, no t grain BW films show up in the poll.
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I didn't notice that. Interesting.

Thanks.
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I am surprised that the Lomography and Cinestill films made the top ten. Is the survey site geared toward that niche of the market?
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interesting, no t grain BW films show up in the poll.
Yep... and I would not vote for any T grain myself, so not surprised so much. What is surprising to me are several Lomo films on the list. Personally - never tried, so maybe I need to...
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After scrolling through bunch of scans (this is what film photography is these days) I bumped into something serious

https://petapixel.com/2013/08/16/con...h-the-digipod/
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i'd be more curious what RFF would get for color and B&W from the tool as basically that's how they got their top10 from 38,000 users which may be a different demographic (millennials) than this forum
https://www.oneyearwithfilmonly.com/film-dating

I got Ektar 100/Velvia 100 and HP5+/Delta400, pretty close to what I use as I shoot primarily HP5+ and few remaining Neopan400 along with Acros 100. For color I choose whichever but if we had a local E-6 lab, I would be shooting more velvia for sure.
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I wonder where a person would control this after putting it into a film camera? Simple things such as changing ISO, off/on, lcd, card slot, hooking up a flash, battery into it and others.

Interesting idea though.
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Taemo maybe you hit on a good idea. A poll of rangefinder members and the films we use.

This may have been previously done but there are quite a few members who joined recently.
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I'm somewhat surprised, too. No none grains! Maybe they look too much like digital. Still Tmax 100 is one of my favorites. And Tmax 400 has a look that I like but not as much as TriX.
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I wonder where a person would control this after putting it into a film camera? Simple things such as changing ISO, off/on, lcd, card slot, hooking up a flash, battery into it and others.

Interesting idea though.

With this your will be converting your film camera to iPhone camera, which is trendy and Magnum accepted photo tool these days.
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What is surprising to me are several Lomo films on the list. Personally - never tried, so maybe I need to...
They were actually quite good back 3 or 4 years ago, mostly because they were repackaged films from other companies.

But still quite good. I haven't purchased any lomo films since their 120 backing paper mishaps.
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I agree with the top 3, although I would go EKtar, Portra and then TriX. Long live Kodak
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Should probably add the Arista EDU films. They are quite good for a cheap film
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With this your will be converting your film camera to iPhone camera, which is trendy and Magnum accepted photo tool these days.
minus the film camera
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Should probably add the Arista EDU films. They are quite good for a cheap film
But aren't these just derivatives of various classic stocks?
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Looks like just another sponsored/hyping article.
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Definitely agree about the top colour films. Never been a fan of Tri-X myself though, I prefer a slow Ilford.
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Expected Cinestill 800 over 50.
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Simply horrible examples of typical film type "look".

And since he got the results based on the same lousy examples some people that never shot any of those films preferred...
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Don't get it. This says just nothing. He made a site that showed photos and then he decided what film he tought that photographer would prefer. So if he never put T grain films or slides or films with a higher sensitivity than 400 in his tool (as it seems like) then the result would say those films aren't popular. Useless.
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delta 400 continues to go under the radar. that's cool. i like it that way.
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So if he never put T grain films or slides or films with a higher sensitivity than 400 in his tool (as it seems like) then the result would say those films aren't popular. Useless.
There are hi-speed and t-grain films in the "film dating". You just have to force yourself to pick a particularly boring shot (for t-grain) or particularly horrible looking one (for cinestill, lomo).
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delta 400 continues to go under the radar. that's cool. i like it that way.
For 35mm I typically shoot HP5

But, recently have been comparing the results of delta vs HP5

I think I might switch from HP5 to delta for my next bulk roll
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Simply horrible examples of typical film type "look".

And since he got the results based on the same lousy examples some people that never shot any of those films preferred...
I agree.
I wonder how many people will see that awful example of FujiPro 400H or Portra 160, and then decide not to try that film.
I feel like poor color scanning so often gives people the entirely wrong idea of what a film should look like.
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Lomo beat T-Max?

Credibility is at issue.
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I am surprised that the Lomography and Cinestill films made the top ten. Is the survey site geared toward that niche of the market?
Me too...
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I'm not endorsing this article but thought I would show links to further read, showing other folks thoughts. It does say in this link info. for newbies:

https://petapixel.com/2017/02/08/fun...mm-film-stock/

And you can check this out:

https://www.oneyearwithfilmonly.com/film-dating

I look at articles like these to learn something. If its's not my cup of tea I'll skim over the article but I'm always trying to make better photographs.
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I look at articles like these to learn something. If its's not my cup of tea I'll skim over the article but I'm always trying to make better photographs.
This article/survey is a popularity contest among a non-representative sample of photographers, so I don't think you can learn very much and the results are unlikely to lead to making better photographs.
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Wow, such a bunch of critics.

how do sales figures compare?

And TMAX 100 was the black and white film recommended based on my tastes so the t-grain films are represented.

On the color side it recommended I shoot Portra 800 so higher speed films are also in the mix. I am very partial to Portra 400 but I am frequently pushing it to 800 or 1600. I may have to try some more Portra 800.

As for the averages, we have no idea who is populating his survey. It would appear that Lomo has a much bigger following then you guys want to give them credit for.
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interesting, no t grain BW films show up in the poll.
Portra (160, 400, and 800) and Ektar films are T-Grain emulsions.
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As for the averages, we have no idea who is populating his survey. It would appear that Lomo has a much bigger following then you guys want to give them credit for.
Maybe the results tell you more about PetaPixel's readership than film popularity.
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Taemo maybe you hit on a good idea. A poll of rangefinder members and the films we use.

This may have been previously done but there are quite a few members who joined recently.
Maybe a poll could be put together here with the use of the gallerys film section and some sort of method of selecting gallery pics to be displayed with each of the most popular films.

Would be cool, although incredibly difficult and unlikely
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Maybe a poll could be put together here with the use of the gallerys film section and some sort of method of selecting gallery pics to be displayed with each of the most popular films.

Would be cool, although incredibly difficult and unlikely
Yeah. Unlikely is right. It seems that it is more fun to complain about what someone else did accomplish.

I do agree that the survey results probably have more to do with the readership of a given website then with film users as a whole. A little demographic info would be useful.
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It would appear that Lomo has a much bigger following then you guys want to give them credit for.

LOMO has a huge and enthusiastic following. They essentially saved film...
(who else made it cool and introduced new/young people to the joy of it?)

Their website is excellent - lomography.com

Some of their film offerings are a really good deal, like the 800 stuff:

https://shop.lomography.com/en/films...so-35mm-3-pack
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For 35mm I typically shoot HP5

But, recently have been comparing the results of delta vs HP5

I think I might switch from HP5 to delta for my next bulk roll
i highly recommend Delta 400 at box speed in HC-110.
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I did the quiz and it suggested Fuji Pro 400H to me. Which though it is a lovely film, I almost never shoot 400ASA film. I haven't shot a roll in several months.

The results of the poll more show that the quiz is flawed than anything.

edit: found a way to view all the results, only four "slow" color films as possible outcomes: Porta 160, Cinestill 50, Lomography Color 100, Kodak Ektar 100.

None of which are Fuji.

For slow B&W films: Ilford Pan F 50, Fomapan 100, Kodak TMAX 100, Lomography Earl Grey 100.

None of which are Fuji. No Acros? Really? For shame.
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There's definitely Fuji Velvia 100 because that's the result I got in my quiz.
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There's definitely Fuji Velvia 100 because that's the result I got in my quiz.
I don't know what quiz you took, because the guy who set it up says this:
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"Also, slide films were left out of my tool and this top 10 list because they are becoming more and more difficult to find and even more difficult to process."
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Velvia 100 is displayed as 'You may also like...' when your "film date" is Ektar 100.
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