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M-P 240 $2500 On CL
Old 07-06-2017   #1
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M-P 240 $2500 On CL

$2500 for an M-P 240.
What do folks think?
Does this look fishy or like a good deal.
I'm not much of a CLer.
Thanks for the comments.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pho/6206874533.html
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Old 07-06-2017   #2
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$2500 for an M-P 240.
What do folks think?
Does this look fishy or like a good deal.
I'm not much of a CLer.
Thanks for the comments.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pho/6206874533.html
Meet in person at a starbucks in a very traffic-heavy location. Pay in cash. Don't send the money in any other way. Looks a little suspicious. Particularly the Moscow part and the language used. But then I'm always suspicious on CL. Just send a email out and see what he says and go from there.
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I would ask if he minds meeting at a police station. Local police in most parts of the country are happy to host CL transactions. See if your local police are the same way.

It could be totally legitimate. Not everyone is articulate on a CL ad, and not everyone cares to get what they paid from their stuff, they just want it gone. But always, always: Buyer beware. Check documents and be close to the authorities.
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Old 07-06-2017   #4
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I'm concerned too even send an email.
It just seems too good to be true.
In the past for CL sales I have met people at my bank.
Deposit their cash without leaving the building.
This is different as a purchase.

Are Leica warranties even transferable ?
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Old 07-06-2017   #5
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It just seems too good to be true.
Nailed it.
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Old 07-06-2017   #6
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Don't waste your time. I see these types of listings for leicas in my local CL frequently. One photo, and a description/price that is too good to be true.

I have emailed before and gotten a response similar to - "I'm out of town for 4 weeks, but can have the camera shipped once I receive payment"

Edit: did a quick search again and came across these...
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pho/6201391661.html
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pho/6201373088.html
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/pho/6201391658.html

All three seem like total BS
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Send an email; won't hurt. Takes 10 seconds and then you can find out!
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Yeah the Seattle CL has a couple iffy-suspicious ones show up occasionally. I don't have the spare cash or time to partake in this, but feel free to!

You might end up with a previously-stolen MP 240 though.
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Old 07-06-2017   #9
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I wouldn't worry that much. I got an used M240 for about $3000 from getdpi. That was last year, so I guess the price would have soften a little. The guys listed at mid 3k is not realistic.
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Yeah it's bs.
I don't go to cl to purchase much.
It's close to a legit price but of course is too good to be true.


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Hi,

I'm sorry, at the moment I'm out of the city because of my job. I travel a lot, so I don't have time to use it. I'II come back after 5-6 weeks.
Camera in mint condition no any issues, I can guarantee.
I took camera with myself, so it's possible to ship it now. Would you cover shipping cost or you prefer to split it?
By the way, where are you located?
Any question welcome.
I can share more photos, if you need?

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Old 07-06-2017   #11
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Yeah it's bs.
I don't go to cl to purchase much.
It's close to a legit price but of course is too good to be true.
That response from them is a total scam, sorry
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The fact that it says "No Return" makes me think this is a hot potato and the seller just wants to get rid of it. And, of course, the response confirms my (and everyone else's) suspicions.

That being said, I'm glad I read this thread because I've gotten a couple of ideas on places to meet for Craigslist transactions, like my bank and the local police station. Great ideas on places to meet! Thanks!

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There are fake ads like this all the time on the LA Craigslist.
Found this one in a few seconds:
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/la...204458131.html
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I hate scammers, So I've responded back to him. I got the same canned response, I plan on wasting as much of their time as possible!
More details to come
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Is there any good way to report the listing to CL ?
I can't see a tab to report. Seems like CL would have a system set up for this sort of thing.
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Old 07-07-2017   #16
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Purchased in Moscow, for sale in Seattle?

Stolen in Moscow (from apartment with box and else), resurfaced in Seattle...
Or guy from Moscow is broke in Seattle...

Or it was gift to kid, GF and now relation is broke. Toys for sale to make it hurts more.
I'm going on BF party today. Toronto professor. From Belarus. His older son owns Mercedes SUV. They purchased it for same money as Leica listed here. From Russian in GTA. Car was registered on him, driven by daughter. One day he became pissed off and sold car he owned for nothing. We, Russians, don't show middle finger, but now how to **** for real.
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Is there any good way to report the listing to CL ?
I can't see a tab to report. Seems like CL would have a system set up for this sort of thing.
Andy, at the top of every CL listing, there is a "prohibited" checkbox. This is to report scams, prohibited items, etc.
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Hi Larry Thanks!
I saw that and clicked a day ago .
The add is still up earlier this morning although It's shows as flagged now.
I guess it takes a while to confirm a fraud ??
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Don't bother flagging. I used to do that, and if the ads do get removed the scammers put them back a day later. craigslist does not have a proper vetting process.
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Could be stolen
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There was a local CL ad here for a clean M4 + 50mm Leica lens for $400.. student needing rent money. I think he could have walked into a camera store and would be offered more?

Sounded a little fishy. Those ads are almost always for Leica gear.
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Could be stolen
The picture is stolen.
I'm convinced there is no camera for sale.
The person is simply looking for a sucker to buy his story and send money.

Since posting this thread I have spent some time reading about CL frauds and scams.
In some item categories the percentage of fraudulent sales is ridiculously high. (Yes Cameras)
Others such as Bikes have many, many stolen items.
To be honest, I can't understand how CL has not been shut down for lack of improvements.
What has been and could be a cool place of community exchange needs serious re-tooling in order to continue.
It's a shame really that we don't have space for honesty in the world we live in.
Without changing It really seems like CL is complicit in these frauds.... providing an easy platform for criminals.
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Yikes, like clockwork these 'too good to be true' deals keep showing up:

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pho/6208527356.html
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pho/6206855385.html

Grammar / wording look suspect so I'm not even going to touch it with a 10-foot pole.
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I emailed the original CL ad when it first posted. I asked where they'd like to meet and do a transaction, very politely and to the point.

Crickets.

I emailed again and suggested a place to meet. Crickets.

Interesting that you received a reply.

I harbor particular hatred for these kinds of scammers.
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$2500 for an M-P 240.
What do folks think?
Does this look fishy or like a good deal.
I'm not much of a CLer.
Thanks for the comments.

https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pho/6206874533.html
I saw one on Chicago CL the other week... Yeah, too good to be true... Same price, same model...
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Well, at least the three linked by Andy and taomei have been blocked and shown as flagged for removal.
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Old 07-08-2017   #27
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Tons of similar scam postings on NYC CL. If you send an email, do so through CL's email link--IIRC it gets routed through CL and don't disclose your real email address. I've learned to NOT include my email, cell #, address or last name until I've confirmed the other side is genuine; scammers/spammers are looking to collect info to spam as well. There are occasional bargains, but usually those are snapped up quickly.
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