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Old 11-19-2016   #41
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American companies controlling brands during the '60s and on was not unusual, SuperScope held the SONY trademark, EPOI, Nikon for instance.
I may be reading your comment incorrectly but Ehrenreich was the US importer of Nikon cameras but they didn't own the company. They did control distribution in the US and maybe ths is what you really said.
EPOI (Ehrenreich Photo Optical Inc.) had two divisions back in the late 70's. They had the Red Line and the Blue LIne. One was Nikon and the other was a mishmash of things like Fuji, Kinderman, Capro, and several others. They had separate sales forces for each line.
My favorite, as a dealer back in these days, was Berkey Marketing. They had Konica, Omega enlargers and a bunch of other cool stuff.
Speaking of Altman's in Chicago, Ralph stopped into my store once back in the late 70's after he had closed his store. One of my employees was showing him around and making sure he knew we had 10,000 sq feet of space and a lot of merchandise. After awhile I filled him in the fact that Ralph's store had that much space on each of three floors and and ESCALATOR to connect them. Ralph was a good man and a great dealer.
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Reid and Sigrist - high quality Leica copies - eventually bought up by Decca it seems.

Topcon still exists though and is in business (my optician uses their equipment) but no longer builds cameras
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My first 35mm SLR was a Minolta SRT-101 I bought at Target. Back in the 1960's.

Back in the 1950's I bought a used Sears Tower TLR from Natinal Camera. It used 127 film. Nice slides with it!

Neither make is around anymore!
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no Topcon now

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I have one of these, got it for my dad in 1970-71. Now I have it, I still use it. I love the fact that it is synched to 1/500. I also bought (EBAY) a 28mm and a 135mm: I think $14.00 for both.

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The company, Topcon, is still around, they just don't make cameras anymore.

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So much fun to peruse the gimmicky photographic accessories from Spiratone. I hactually use a set of Rolleinar knock-off from Spiratone and I gotta say, they are pretty good!

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So much fun to peruse the gimmicky photographic accessories from Spiratone. I hactually use a set of Rolleinar knock-off from Spiratone and I gotta say, they are pretty good!

Spiratone was Fred Spira. He invented many of the accessories that Spiratone sold.
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Yashica and Contax. The first absorbed by Kyocera the latter killed by the incompetents at Kyocera.
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Voigtländer closed 1982.
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Leica!
Does anyone believe this is still the same company?
Yes I do! Three fantastic film cameras still in production, and some weird digital stuff.
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no Topcon now
Hadn't seen that before. What a nice looking camera.

What about Ritz Camera? They used to be in every mall, now they have only 5 retail locations in the entire USA, with zero in California.
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What about Bronica? Also May & Baker, popularly known as M&B, their photographic chemicals included Promicrol developer which gave excellent film speed but mushy grain.
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I may be reading your comment incorrectly but Ehrenreich was the US importer of Nikon cameras but they didn't own the company. They did control distribution in the US and maybe this is what you really said.
Nope not what I "really said." Like post-war Soviets, regarding Contax, there is sometimes confusion between trademark and branding, and control of manufacture.

Joseph Ehrenreich, owner and CEO of Ehrenreich Photo-Optical Industries acquired the import of Nikon products, and controlled entry of Nikon trademarks into the USA.

Wes Loder, member of the RFF, would be more familiar as the extent of that control (and US registration if any), in the case of Nikon. SONY lost control of their logo for instance, when they allowed Superscope to use the attached logo.

I do not know what exactly the relation between Honeywell and Pentax was, but the cameras carried both names in the US.
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Rolleiflex. Very classic.

I think 3.5F is a perfect medium format camera.

Burleigh Brooks, Spiratone, Zunow.

Plaubel Veriwide 100 is a perfect companion to any model of Rolleiflex. It was made for BUrleigh Brooks. 28/2 Spiratone by Mitake lens is pretty decent. I would really like to try that rare 50/1.1 Zunow lens.
Try a modern Miyazaki Sonnetar instead.
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Nope not what I "really said." Like post-war Soviets, regarding Contax, there is sometimes confusion between trademark and branding, and control of manufacture.

Joseph Ehrenreich, owner and CEO of Ehrenreich Photo-Optical Industries acquired the import of Nikon products, and controlled entry of Nikon trademarks into the USA.

Wes Loder, member of the RFF, would be more familiar as the extent of that control, in the case of Nikon. SONY lost control of their logo for instance, when they allowed Superscope to use the attached logo.

I do not know what exactly the relation between Honeywell and Pentax was, but the cameras carried both names in the US.
I wasn't presuming to tell you any Nikon history. I was a Nikon dealer back then and did a lot of business with EPOI though never with Joe Ehrenreich who died in 1973. I did know Jonathan and then the Nikon USA people after they made the changeover in 1981.
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I wasn't presuming to tell you any Nikon history. I was a Nikon dealer back then and did a lot of business with EPOI though never with Joe Ehrenreich who died in 1973. I did know Jonathan and then the Nikon USA people after they made the changeover in 1981.
During the time that EPOi was active, the gray market was almost non existent other than companies who shipped Nikons from Hong Kong, with the logos ground off. I remember the changeover to "Nikon Incorporated, Garden City," and owned equipment with that Logo.

But of course you are right -- to be clear, EPOI never owned Nikon. Miranda was unusual in that respect.
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E.F.I.C.A. cameras from Argentina


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Look at how the photography industry has changed over the years! Espcially the last ten to fifteen. I was involved as a pro and witnessed many changes in the industry. One friend of mine had a successful studio but, towards the end, struggled, having a hard time with all the changes. He was active flying and earned the credentials to teach it. With his photography business gone, he passed the necessary requiremrnts to be a commerical jet pilot. He now flys for Delta Airlines. Quite a change!

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KonicaMinolta is still in business; they just don't make photo equipment anymore. They still make laser prints, copy machines, and industrial equipment.
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Old 11-19-2016   #65
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Due to my penchant for vintage (read as: ancient, old, broken, etc...) gear, most of my collection comes from companies that have gone belly-up or gotten out of the photography game. Also, as a New Yorker, I've watched some of the old, venerable dealerships go under since the demise of the photo district in lower midtown.

Since most of these companies have been covered by earlier posts already, I'll add a more recent loss to the list:
RIP, Photochemika/Efke. They made nice film and it was cheap. Bummer.

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Not sure if Clayton chemicals are still made and FR products have been gone for decades.
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They no longer manufacture cameras in most European countries: France, Italy, UK
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Cadet Photo in Pittsburgh! Great camera shop - always had everything that you needed, and you could rent just about anything from them.

I bought my first enlarger from them (and lots of Agfa and Cibachrome paper), and also rented several lenses back when I was actually doing paid photography gigs.

Which reminds me - no more Cibachrome. Man, I really miss that stuff.
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Dear Board,

When I first moved the Central PA we had Lett's Camera Shop, in Lemoyne, PA. They claimed to pre-date Matthew Brady and said they were there during the Civil War. I have no way to verify their claims but I can tell you that they were great people to deal with.

That was in my pre-digital days and now that they are gone I miss them immensely. The same goes for Estep's Camera Repair that was just around the corner, literally, from Lett's. He refurbished my late Grandfather's Nikon FTN, new foam, CLA, and a meter re-calibration for $ 95.00 back in 2002.

I still have Authorized Camera Repair in Willow Grove PA. He did a CLA on my Grandfather's old Nikon 5.8 cm f1.4 for $ 49.00 this Spring.

There is still hope!

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So much fun to peruse the gimmicky photographic accessories from Spiratone. I hactually use a set of Rolleinar knock-off from Spiratone and I gotta say, they are pretty good!


I used to go to sleep dreaming of these ads., in between girlfriends.
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Spiratone was Fred Spira. He invented many of the accessories that Spiratone sold.
I know you're probably sick of me musing about Spiratone over the years, but that place was instrumental to me developing a serious interest in photography. I was a semi-regular at the Manhattan shop in my late teens, although I only remember visiting the Flushing shop once.

I mostly bought film and little odds and ends there, and did my Kodachrome and Ektachrome processing by Kodak through the shop. My brother bought one of those huge cheap telephotos there, kinda like the one shown above, but I'm very sure he paid far less than $44 and change for it. He called it his "beach lens" and I'll let everyone's imagination go on that one.

Fred Spira passed away a few years back and his son posted some memories over at APUG at the time. Do a forum search over at www.apug.org for "fred spira" and I'm sure you will find it.

What I found sort of interesting in the conversation after Fred's passing was that the family pronounced their name "Spear-a" but the company name was known as "Spy-ra-tone", or, LOL, at least they used to answer the phone at the Manhattan branch that way.

Willoughby's, kind of across the street from Spiratone, was another I remember very well. I befriended one of their staff members, but we lost contact after I went away to college.

There were several others in the area. Minifilm, where I bought my Pentax Spotmatic, was over on 8th Avenue, and Olden was in the triangle at Broadway and 6th. Avenue but they were usually closed when I ventured into the city. There was another one, downtown a bit, in the "teens", which I can't think of the name of (I'm sure I will just after I hit POST) which had the reputation of being somewhat of a shyster.
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Not the same company. Once an innovator, Leica now panders to the 1%er crowd.
Like the 1% that wants digital rangefinder cameras? Or the 1% that still fits some of the very best lenses made today onto cameras made 60+ years ago? Or the 1% that wants the best quality RF cameras you can buy? Or the 1% that values compact full-frame cameras?

Also, it's quite hard to point to any single innovation on any Leica, ever, that hadn't already appeared somewhere else on another camera, earlier. There are some (OLIGO single-shot, for example) but they were rarely commercially significant. The only important one that springs to mind is MOOLY, which I think was the first add-on motor for a 35mm camera, though of course 35mm motorized cameras were nothing new.

In other words, your post is based on an unappetizing mixture of ignorance, envy and reverse snobbery. Leicas were ALWAYS expensive, ALWAYS luxury goods -- and very good cameras. They still are.

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Who are "they"? Mike Walker, for a start, might be interested to learn that he no longer manufacturers cameras.

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Curiosity got me and I did a search over at APUG and came upon this note from Greg Spira, Fred's son:

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dmr - You aren't confused. The name of the store was "SPY-ra-tone" but he pronounced our name "SPEE-ra." For whatever reason, he thought that "SPY-ra-tone" sounded better. And we have cousins who use the "SPY-ra" pronunciation in their name.

And the store went out of business soon after my father left because the owners became more interested interested in bleeding money from the company than operating it (which is why he left in the first place). (He had sold the company two decades earlier to very different owners than it ended up with).

Aqx - The stores were certainly limited to the US, but it did get a fair amount of overseas orders since there was nowhere else to get many of the items Spiratone specialized in.. As far as his influence, you may not have known it, but you wouldn't have been able to obtain t-mounts and various other items if it wasn't for him.

Thanks for the fond remembrances.

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