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Old 04-17-2013   #121
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Wow, Samouraļ, looks like you got some pretty serious vertical banding in that second image

I like it and would crop a bit to show only the branches with their new foliage, perhaps increasing the contrast just a smidge.
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Louis, the relatively dark ceiling area in that image you posted, which I like very much, leads me to pose a question. Under similar conditions (when there is a difference of at least 3 stops in the scene), I find the DP Merrills sometimes produce strange color casts. Have you noticed this, and if yes, what is your work-around? Thanks, Jon.
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You are indeed correct. In this photograph, the roof beams did exhibit some green colour cast in the original file (RAW). I used layers in photoshop to isolate that area and then desaturate to taste. It is an unfortunate aspect of an otherwise spectacular sensor.

The reason I am willing to live with such issues is that to date I have not owned a digital camera which can cope with such a wide dynamic range. In most cases, either the window highlights would have been blown or the shadow areas a mass of dark noise. With the DP2M the ability to simultaneously recover highlights and shadow areas is in my experience unique.

Your 'Alpenglow' picture is wonderful - the light on the buildings and the subtelty of the sky tones is excellent.

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Unfortunately I can't add to the colour discussion though I follow it with interest. With my abstracts it's hard to notice...

Here's a recent one:

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Thanks, Louis, you've saved my sanity...and pointed me towards something I've always tried to avoid: working with layers.

With skyscapes, desaturation is less effective. I did try some selective desaturation through control points ("layer-lite" for the photoshop-impaired), but that created other problems.

I'm just starting to become aware of the problem, so it will certainly take some trial and error to devise work arounds.


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You are indeed correct. In this photograph, the roof beams did exhibit some green colour cast in the original file (RAW). I used layers in photoshop to isolate that area and then desaturate to taste. It is an unfortunate aspect of an otherwise spectacular sensor.

The reason I am willing to live with such issues is that to date I have not owned a digital camera which can cope with such a wide dynamic range. In most cases, either the window highlights would have been blown or the shadow areas a mass of dark noise. With the DP2M the ability to simultaneously recover highlights and shadow areas is in my experience unique.

Your 'Alpenglow' picture is wonderful - the light on the buildings and the subtelty of the sky tones is excellent.

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Thanks, Louis, you've saved my sanity...and pointed me towards something I've always tried to avoid: working with layers.

With skyscapes, desaturation is less effective. I did try some selective desaturation through control points ("layer-lite" for the photoshop-impaired), but that created other problems.

I'm just starting to become aware of the problem, so it will certainly take some trial and error to devise work arounds.
Jon

I felt the same way - the solution was pointed out to me by a talented photographer friend.

"Scott Kelby's 7 Point System for Adobe Photoshop". I guarantee if you spend a couple of hours reading only first chapter of his excellent book you will become a pro with layers.

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I felt the same way - the solution was pointed out to me by a talented photographer friend.

"Scott Kelby's 7 Point System for Adobe Photoshop". I guarantee if you spend a couple of hours reading only first chapter of his excellent book you will become a pro with layers.

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Thanks for the tip, Louis.
Hava good one !
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I love these. "Tableau" (in the sense of painting) is the word that comes to mind.
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Finally, a stitched version of the "Alpenglow in the city"


Pont_Guillotiere_Pano-編輯-small by areality4all, on Flickr
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I love these. "Tableau" (in the sense of painting) is the word that comes to mind.
Thanks!

And nice work on the stitched panorama!
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Nice shots everyone keep them coming.
- Nlubis, the first b&w I like the best
- Louisb, thanks for the hints on the use of layers, now I know how you got such a nice range in that shot
- Samourai like the second better
- Jscooter - nice interesting shot... Your daughter?
- Keith, now we are talking. I like it.
- Jon, the Pano stitch looks great..I can c the glow.
- bk1970, I think your influence is showing in terms of abstract shots. I like the second pic.

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... a cat shot!

Foveon cat though.

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... a cat shot!

Foveon cat though.

Is it me or is there something special about the way the foveon
renders hair?
It's special and I really like the look. I noticed it in
the early photos in this thread and noticed in the girls portrait above this post. The RX, XE, OMD, X100 etc. never appealed to me but I might have to try this camera. Not just for hair but the unique overall look. Great pictures from all the contributors.

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Is it me or is there something special about the way the forveon renders hair?
It's special and I really like the look. I noticed on the early photos in this thread and noticed in the girls portrait above this post. The RX, XE, OMD, X100 etc. never appealed to me but I might have to try this camera. Not just for hair but the unique overall look. Great pictures from all the contributors.

My thoughts exactly about the hair thing and it's what made me take a second look at the DPM series.

Incredible resolution without that overly detailed digital look ... it must be unique to the sensor I agree.
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... a cat shot!

Foveon cat though.

Is it me or is there something special about the way the forveon renders hair?
It's special and I really like the look. I noticed on the early photos in this thread and noticed in the girls portrait above this post. The RX, XE, OMD, X100 etc. never appealed to me but I might have to try this camera. Not just for hair but the unique overall look. Great pictures from all the contributors.
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Rich velvety portrait. Like to see more!



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... a cat shot!

Foveon cat though.

puuuuuuurfect........ your right about hair with realistic rendering
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... a cat shot!

Foveon cat though.

Nice Keith... By Jove, I think u got it.
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Nice Keith... By Jove, I think u got it.
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I'm starting to bond with the little Merrill.

In spite of it's slightly autistic attitude to photography!

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I'm starting to bond with the little Merrill.

In spite of it's slightly autistic attitude to photography!

Now we are talking. . Watch out it may get addictive.
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Bk1970. Man U have a eye for finding the abstract and the Merrill really brings it out.

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I'm starting to bond with the little Merrill.
I really like this latest one!
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Bk1970. Man U have a eye for finding the abstract and the Merrill really brings it out.

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Samouraļ, this one's great!
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Samouraļ, this one's great!
Thanks BK. Honestly been saying the same thing to myself about everything you post. Lit a fire under this thread.
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Thanks BK. Honestly been saying the same thing to myself about everything you post. Lit a fire under this thread.
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I'm leaving for a short week to go hiking, and for the first time the only cameras I will be taking are a pair of DP Merrills (1&3, with CV finders on top). C1 is set up for exposure bracketing on tripod work, for potential HDR; C2 is set up for overcast (ISO 320, Cloudy WB, +0.7 exp comp, f/2.8 start point etc); C3 is set up for sun (ISO 200, Sun WB, 0 exp comp, f/5.6 start point, etc.). Lee ND grad filter set and Sigma Circular Polarizers in the bag, along with 11 extra batteries . All fits into two waterproof sealed pouches from Ortlieb that hitch onto the hip belt of my McHale SARC pack.

The snow is starting to melt, and there will be some interesting early spring scenes at lower elevations. Let's see what I can do with this!

Meantime, you DPM users rock!
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Sounds like fun. Be safe. Post pics when you get back.
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Sounds like fun. Be safe. Post pics when you get back.
Thanks! That's what I'm hoping!
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Have fun out there Jon.

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Lee ND grad filter set and Sigma Circular Polarizers in the bag, along with 11 extra batteries .
Have fun! I'm curious to hear how the ND grads work out, I haven't tried using the Lee holder and filters on non-dslrs that have small diameter glass.
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Wish I wasn't as fat/old/out of shape as I am! I'd be hard-pressed to lug 11 batteries anywhere!

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Enjoy your trip! Wish I was there!
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So my Sigma aml2 close up lens arrived today. This filter was designed to be used w/ the dp2m. The focusing range is limited to from 19 to 32 cm. plane of focus is pretty tight. Can be used in both af and mf mode. I found it a bit easier to focus using mf and the mag mode. Here is some quick test shots...all hand [email protected] shutter speeds were above 200 if I remember correctly. Slight wind today. These were all tiff16 w/ my normal default Aperture preset..

These shots if orange rose were pretty close to min. focus.



Around 60% crop



100% crop



A 20% crop to square perspective



Another 20% crop but focus was slightly farther away then the rose shots.



This will due until I get a dp3m which should be more versatile and better iq.. The filter is too deep to use w/ the Sigma dedicated lens hood for the camera and I need to take off the uv filter as well, bit of a pain, but expected. It comes w/ its own black carrying case w/ velvet like material on inside which is nice versus just a plain plastic filter case.

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