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Old 05-10-2012   #41
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I will be a better person donating one of these to the UNICEF.
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Old 05-10-2012   #43
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Maybe. The .95 Nocti is on my list. BTW, isn't the 50 'lux ASPH an APO lens too?
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I am not a member of Leica's target market.
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BTW, isn't the 50 'lux ASPH an APO lens too?
Not yet....
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If you sell one kidney to finance the new M-monochrom; then you sell the second to pay for this APO Asph, then what do you do? Dialysis? Go back to film? What?

I applaud Leica for being able to do this stuff. But, it's all way, way beyond my budget or needs.
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Given that I'm color blind (admit it; you could tell from my postings), near sighted (ditto) and suffer from astigmatism, why the heck do I want to pay $7,150 for a lens that sees better than I do?

However, if I were I rich man, I might consider such an extravagance.
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what a joke. $8,000. Leica have absolutely no idea.
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I'd rather buy a Noct. F0.95 ASPH.
My point exactly. What was the purpose of Leica coming out with an f2 lens that is three quarters the price of the f0.95 lens they already sell? I'm baffled.

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What was the purpose of Leica coming out with an f2 lens that is three quarters the price of the f0.95 lens they already sell? I'm baffled.
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The price makes it jewelry.
It's the perfect lens for well-to-do doctors, dentists, successful(not incarcerated)hedge fund managers, and former Russian presidents.
I'm sure it has a very high level of aberration correction.
Even "well to do" doctors don't buy this type of stuff. It's not like money just magically appears in your bank account.
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Even "well to do" doctors don't buy this type of stuff. It's not like money just magically appears in your bank account.
Yeah, my Doctor has an M8 that he bought used because he couldn't spend the cash on the M9.
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Yeah ***. In actual use, on a film camera or an m9, how much more can the actual medium resolve than a $800 zeiss 50mm planar, which is already one of the best 50mm's on the market.

This is just a whole pile of ***.
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I just read today from NY times that 7% of american households have over $1M in cash. This lens is not even 1% of that, plus you don't actually spend $7K to use it. You only spend $7K - whatever depreciation there will be.

For those who think that this lens will not sell. Well, how about talk about that when it's actually on the market. For those who prefer the 50 lux or 50 noct, what if the buyer already owns all of those but still has so much cash lying around?

The more high end lenses Leica makes the better. Because if someone is not buying this, they would spend the money on another watch, or handbag, or tires for a car. I would rather have Leica make this money than Ferrari or Rolex or whatever.
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Hmmm. I didn't pay the $5K for a 35mm f1.4 ASPH-FLE when mine arrived.

I'm thinking no, to the 50/2 ASPH.

But, one never knows.

Let's see a few performance reviews.
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Apparently, Leica's pricing scheme is based on the supply-demand of the 35luxFLE.
They saw people were willing to pay $7k for the then-new 35luxFLE, so they said, why don't they charge that much to begin with.
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and by the way, the next new Leica lens will probably be an APO 35mm cron with a $9k price tag (if not more)
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Axiom, I think you are correct.
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hope this will not trigger another price hike of cron 50...they are ridiculously over priced already...
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Consider a used Alpa Kern Macro Switar 50/1.9 Apochromatic or an used Kinoptik 100/2 APO cost today, both is over 40 years old already and a brand new Kinoptik 100/2 APO cost at 5,978 euros before tax/VAT. I think the new 50 APO-Summicron ASPH price is right between among the top tier lens manufacturers.
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Apparently, Leica's pricing scheme is based on the supply-demand of the 35luxFLE.
They saw people were willing to pay $7k for the then-new 35luxFLE, so they said, why don't they charge that much to begin with.
The price point is exactly mid way between the lux and the noct. I think that's how they came up with the magical number.
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hope this will not trigger another price hike of cron 50...they are ridiculously over priced already...
Do you already own one? if not, go get one now. They are still cheap.
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Do you already own one? if not, go get one now. They are still cheap.
No, i'm getting myself lux 50 asph...might grab a cron 50 too but not sure which version !
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this is just going to increase the price of the used market too, hold onto your current 50's, they are about to go up in value
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The Pentax Super Takumar 55 is a lovely lens, screw mount. Mine came for free. This new 50 from Leica actually looks like an ugly duckling. But I like the creative points made above, especially the one about the Leica coffers getting some of what would otherwise go to Rolex and Louis Vuitton etc.
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forgive my ignorance, but what does the apo designation actually mean? what does it translate to in actual performance / rendering?
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I won't even pay for an old cron. :P
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forgive my ignorance, but what does the apo designation actually mean? what does it translate to in actual performance / rendering?
APO= Apochromatic. A better correction of chromatic and spherical aberration than the much more common achromat lenses. The Apochromatic lens is usually of three elements and brings light of three different frequencies ( primary colors) to a common focus.
Any lens with "APO" designation is expensive except Sigma APO lenses.
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forgive my ignorance, but what does the apo designation actually mean? what does it translate to in actual performance / rendering?
it means that when you miss focus by even a hair it wont be as sharp as the normal cron.

or at least, that was how Zeiss explained the use of the 250 superapochromat as compared to the plain sonnar version (which cost a ton less).

I wonder what the price would be from Canon for an actual equivalent (ie not a 50/2 that was "almost as good" but one that actually was)? probably still north of 5k.
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Now I wonder why the 75mm apo cron is so cheap? Shouldn't they also increase the price of that to at least $7,595 given that 75mm is not as common as 50mm?
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APO= Apochromatic. A better correction of chromatic and spherical aberration than the much more common achromat lenses. The Apochromatic lens is usually of three elements and brings light of three different frequencies ( primary colors) to a common focus.
Ah. Doesnt sound like it would be as big a benefit to a film m user as a digital m user then. Thanks.
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it means that when you miss focus by even a hair it wont be as sharp as the normal cron.

or at least, that was how Zeiss explained the use of the 250 superapochromat as compared to the plain sonnar version (which cost a ton less).

I wonder what the price would be from Canon for an actual equivalent (ie not a 50/2 that was "almost as good" but one that actually was)? probably still north of 5k.
I often miss focus by a few hairs.... :|
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I don't know, I like Leica but this is insanity. I'm sure people will buy it though
If I were into 50mm, which I'm not, I'd get the nice Zeiss 50, now literally only a fraction of the price. I don't think I'll ever buy a digital M even if I could afford it
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No way. Who're they kidding? Leica's building monuments to honor themselves and is no longer interested in getting my vote.
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forgive my ignorance, but what does the apo designation actually mean? what does it translate to in actual performance / rendering?
What is probably also refers to is the fact that it might focus IR and UV light exactly the same as Visible Spectrum Light (this is my guess based on the price). This is important for some other applications (scientific and medical and stuff). With a normal lens IR light isn't focused exactly the same. Old Pentax lenses have a red marker showing how much to move the focus if you're using IR film.

Really this is probably a speciality lens that isn't needed for Normal Photography.

See lenses like the Coastal Optics 60mm f4 which costs about 5k (and is slower) http://diglloyd.com/articles/Coastal...0f4/index.html

Thats my guess based on the price but I guess all APO guarantees is that visible spectrum light is focused to the same point

*Correction* if it focuses things outside of the Visible Spectrum it should be called SuperAPO and would require fluorite elements at least according to Wikipedia
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Now I wonder why the 75mm apo cron is so cheap? Shouldn't they also increase the price of that to at least $7,595 given that 75mm is not as common as 50mm?
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When I win tomorrow's lotto, well, I'll just have to buy one to go with the Monochrom...
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The crazy part is, it's probably priced about right. It's not a matter of what kind of quality image it produces; it's a matter of how many they can actually manufacture and the numbers that the world will demand.
The price should be right. Most people who say otherwise here would still be grumpy even if the price was $3000. They want everything for $500.
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