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going rate for s2 and 50mm f2?
Old 10-03-2011   #1
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going rate for s2 and 50mm f2?

oh well nevermind had to have it.

hopefully I have an s2 with 50mm f2 on the way.

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Old 10-03-2011   #2
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congrats

sooooooo how much was it? cd or bd?
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well I don't mind saying. and if I overpaid, you would do me a great service to let me know.

combo was 450 USD. seller allows returns.

serial number 615..., chrome dials?
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I would have suggested around $500 for a fully functioning clean user so I'd say that's a very good price! Yep, 615xxxx is a chrome dial.
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Congrats...the 50 f2..do post some pics
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50/2.0 = Nikkor-H-C ? Much better than the 50/1.4 versions, IMHO ...
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But don't sweat it if you have a Nikkor-H rather than a Nikkor-H.C. It's a later version of the exact same lens
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Did you ever do a comparison test for both lenses? the s.c 5 1.4 and the 5 f2?
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More than excellent deal if the combo is clean and sound, and YES you got the best classic 50 (I have two late Nikkor-H, one chrome, one black, will never sell'em).

The bokeh is about similarly pleasant but at f/1.4 - f/2 - f/2.8 the classic Nikkor-S 50/1.4 vignettes A LOT (but for extreme close-ups) which the Nikkor-H 50/2 does not.

Below, chrome Nikkor-H 50/2, wide-open.
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That's a great price.

Same lens in Leica Mount, wide-open, on the M8.



It is a faithful copy of the wartime Zeiss Sonnar 5cm F2, but uses much harder glass and coatings.
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Jon

Did you ever do a comparison test for both lenses? the s.c 5 1.4 and the 5 f2?
Nope never done a comparison test, but both are very good lenses.

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The bokeh is about similarly pleasant but at f/1.4 - f/2 - f/2.8 the classic Nikkor-S 50/1.4 vignettes A LOT (but for extreme close-ups) which the Nikkor-H 50/2 does not.
I'll add that the 5cm f1.4 is a lot more "glowy" wide open than the 5cm f2 is. I'd also rate the bokeh of the 5cm f2 as a little smoother.

Here's a shot taken wide open with a Nikkor-H (no C) f2 @ f2 on an R-D1:

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Nikkor 5cm F1.4, late, wide-open on the Nikon SP.



The F1.4 again, By F2 it settles down.



The lens that the Nikkor was derived from,

A 1935 Carl Zeiss Jena Sonnar, wide-open, on the Nikon SP.



I converted this lens from an enlarger lens to a collapsible mount, shimmed for Nikon. Trying to find a Collapsible Nikkor for the Nikon is near impossible. I have one in LTM, 1948 collapsible Nikkor 5cm f2 HC.

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Nope never done a comparison test, but both are very good lenses.



I'll add that the 5cm f1.4 is a lot more "glowy" wide open than the 5cm f2 is. I'd also rate the bokeh of the 5cm f2 as a little smoother.

Here's a shot taken wide open with a Nikkor-H (no C) f2 @ f2 on an R-D1:

Jon..this pic is very nicely taken. And yes..the bokeh is smooth here....nice lens!
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Brian the nikkor 1.4 look quite harsh wide open...f2 seems alot better...
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The Nikkor 5cm F1.4, Japan version, is quite harsh at F1.4. The "Tokyo" version is a bit smoother. The later 5cm f1.4 has slightly bigger diameter for all of the optics.

The Nikkor 5cm F2 lens (all versions) is much smoother. The Sonnar 5cm F1.5 is also smoother.
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Think i need to read more about the sonnar 5cm...saw alot of comments about this lens...
All these old lenses each holds a character of their own.
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I miss my Nikkors.......

Good choice on picking one up. The S2 with either 50 ROCKS. It's just a fun camera.

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50/2.0 = Nikkor-H-C ? Much better than the 50/1.4 versions, IMHO ...
yes it's the H.C. version. and yeah it's technically 5cm.

these bodies are pretty archaic right? If I want to buy the 35 or 105 I'll need an external viewfinder? what should I look for when I get it to make sure it's in working order?
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You will need the external finder with a 3.5cm and 10.5cm. Go for the F2.5 versions of each, much less expensive than the alternatives in those focal lengths. Make sure the lenses are complete! I just picked up a 10.5cm f2.5 "for parts/Repair" because the rear optic was missing.

So- pictures of front and back, preferably from someone that used it. They come up here from time to time. And of course "ebay". Make sure it is a reliable seller.

Using the external finder is not too hard, takes some practice. If you stop down a bit, not bad.

10.5cm F2.5 on the SP, wide-open.



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Good deal redisburning
I sold many sets like you have in 2005-2006 as high as $1,000.00
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Thread hijack alert.

Can you focus these things by turning the lens, or do you have to turn the little wheel thing?

To me in the UK, that sounds like a very good price, by the way.
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Can you focus these things by turning the lens, or do you have to turn the little wheel thing?
Either is ok for internal mount lenses and light weight wides. The little wheel thing shouldn't be used to focus bigger lenses like the 10.5cm f2.5 or you'll end up damaging something.
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I have a couple of original manuals- and it states the wheel can be used for internal mount lenses and the wide-angle lenses. On the latter, the focus is very light to the touch when using the focus ring of the lens. If you are getting a lot of resistance, probably time for a CLA. I tend to use the wheel only 5cm lenses, and the focus ring of the lens for anything else.
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I may have seen this set when I was looking for a Nikon S2 + 50/2 last evening.
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And Nikon RF Fever claims yet another victim...
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Brian: Such a fever can be contagious.
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I may have seen this set when I was looking for a Nikon S2 + 50/2 last evening.
I was surprised it lasted as long as it did (more than 1 day lol).

if the one you saw had a bit of wear on the back plate around the bottom then that was it.

maybe this is the slide we were all secretly hoping for? or maybe just a weekend where everyone is spent.
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I tend to use the wheel only 5cm lenses, and the focus ring of the lens for anything else.
Hi Brian,

Any reason for this?

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The wide-angle lenses are very easy to use with the focus ring of the lens. I just picked up a 2.8cm F3.5- so will see how it works out. I have the 3.5cm F2.5 and F1.8, use both with their focus ring.
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I have a nikkor 5cm 1.4, which i really enjoy, and am trying to decide what else to try in the pre to just post war field, LTM or Nikon S mount.

I'm looking at several contax 1.5s, which are reasonable--the summarits start to get a bit pricier, and am also open to the f/2s and slower.

suggestions, observations apreciated, TY
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The wide-angle lenses are very easy to use with the focus ring of the lens. I just picked up a 2.8cm F3.5- so will see how it works out. I have the 3.5cm F2.5 and F1.8, use both with their focus ring.
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The Nikon wide-angle lenses are meant to be used with the focus wheel of the camera. The SP manual states that the Telephoto lenses cannot be used with the wheel as they are too heavy. I use the wheel with my 3.5cm F2.5, which has a very light touch.

I suspect the 2.8cm will be even lighter.


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I stated that they were easy to use with the focus wheel-, .TRUE. statement.

I prefer using the focus ring of the external mount lenses, I use the Telephoto's much more than the wide-angles. So- I got used to the focus rings of the external lenses.
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Congraulations and welcome to the club.
I still use a S2 outfit, purchased in 1956.
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When I had my Nikons RFs I used the wheel for normal internal and all wide angle lenses. It worked perfect for shooting with flash as I am a big off camera flash user.

Your approach and mileage may vary, but the amount of fun you have with a Nikon Rangefinder will not!

Congrats and enjoy.

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well I didnt keep the S2 because it had mechanical issues but I went ahead and bought a 5cm f2.0 LTM to use on my new M2.
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