Old 10-08-2017   #241
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Just upgraded to Mac OSX High Sierra with the latest version of their Photos app. The app now supports curve adjustments, so I tried it on one of my recently digitized negatives and the results look really good. I had been using their old Aperture app and it was getting sluggish.


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Old 10-09-2017   #242
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Well... after processing a whole roll yesterday, I think I'll stick with Aperture. Mac Photos is a cpu hog and the app crashed at least 4 times during editing. Clearly, it's not built for intense processing chores. The end results look nice, but it's not worth the frustration. Still, I hope it keeps improving.
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Old 10-11-2017   #243
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@Huss, that's great. Good skin, good sat color. How much manual effort to get the color right?
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That's a really sweet image Huss.
All three of you will enjoy having that one for years to come

I would love to know more about your technique.
Which focal length, stitching etc....?
Currently I'm doing the deep dive with the Rolleiflex (again).
Other than occasionally lacking inspiration, Scanning seems to be the weak link in my "workflow".
Maybe Scanning with the A7 is the solution ?

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@Huss, that's great. Good skin, good sat color. How much manual effort to get the color right?
Thank you!

I first created a profile a while back using the eye drop tool in LR in the orange cast to set white balance, adjusted tone curves etc. Saved it for future use (such as w/ this image). That gets me in the ball park.
I apply the profile to the image, export it to NikFx Colour Pro and essentially use two filters there - pro contrast and colour balance (I think it's called that).
Then save and re-edit in LR. Now everything is zeroed (so essentially you can start fresh) and moves the correct way as you are no longer dealing with the negative but the positive. Here I add final tweaks, the way you would do with any image in LR.
The whole editing shebang takes a couple of minutes. Pretty much the same as if I was playing with a pure digital image.

I really really want to try the film inversion mode on the D850, just to see what it does. This is just a software feature so it seems that any mfg can add something like this to their cameras, even as a firmware update.
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That's a really sweet image Huss.
All three of you will enjoy having that one for years to come

I would love to know more about your technique.
Which focal length, stitching etc....?
Currently I'm doing the deep dive with the Rolleiflex (again).
Other than occasionally lacking inspiration, Scanning seems to be the weak link in my "workflow".
Maybe Scanning with the A7 is the solution ?

Cheers!
Thanks!
It was shot with a Rolleiflex 3.5 EVS, so 75/80mm lens? (I forget what the focal length is, on the 2.8 it is 80).
Pro 160 film, waaay expired (2000). Exposed at 1/125 f11 which is what I do at this light value even if this was fresh film.
No stiching, not sure why that would be necessary? Just the negative scanned with the D750. I use a cheap copy stand for mf, and an led light pad with a negative film holder from an enlarger. I think this was covered at the beginning of this thread.
The A7 has the same resolution as the D750, so should work just as well.

Here's the thing, you already have the A7 so why not use it?
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Thanks

It’s the scanning technique I’m curious about.
Which focal length do you use for 6x6 on the d750.

It seems like there is more than one way to capture the images when scanning film with a digital camera.
I’m still gathering methods before trying some.
Will look at the earlier posts.....Arriving in the thread late.
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I use the same lens as for 'scanning' 35mm - my Micro Nikkor 60 2.8 AF-S.
Attach it to the copy stand, adjust the height so, while viewing in LiveView, the image fills the frame as much as possible. I've put pencil marks on the copy stand neck to show the settings for 6x6/6x9 and 6x4.5.
This camera/lens combo AFs in Live View, which makes things much quicker than manual focusing. I highly recommend using AF if possible.
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Alright!
I'm going to convert one of my old Bessler 67's to a copy stand.
There are not any AF lenses in my Sony or Canon kits but I do have a Zeiss Macro Planar 60mm.... should do the job.
I'm Scanning B+W so we'll see how that goes as far as focusing manually.
Thanks again
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There are not any AF lenses in my Sony or Canon kits but I do have a Zeiss Macro Planar 60mm.... should do the job.
I'm Scanning B+W so we'll see how that goes as far as focusing manually.
Thanks again
It'll work fine. I actually started by focusing manually in LiveView, before I realized that the lens could AF in LiveView! (I hardly ever used that camera).
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I found it difficult to focus the negative accurately, and now use a dedicated scanner.
Use live view and magnify.

A macro lens made for close work will make a sharper image in close range
and have a flatter field than lenses made for distance.
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Use live view and magnify.

A macro lens made for close work will make a sharper image in close range
and have a flatter field than lenses made for distance.
Or simply use an autofocus macro.
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Or simply use an autofocus macro.
I found that with my D750, the AF was only accurate in LiveView when taking pics of the film.
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I found that with my D750, the AF was only accurate in LiveView when taking pics of the film.
What else would you be taking pics of, besides the film?
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What else would you be taking pics of, besides the film?
Sometimes I actually use it for its intended purpose. To take pics of stuff that is not a flat film like surface at 1:1 reproduction rate.
Not often, but sometimes.

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That Boyle Heights shirt is badass and the processing is great.

What's your light source?
What're you using to hold the film?
Finally, is this a composite or a single shot?
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That Boyle Heights shirt is badass and the processing is great.

What's your light source?
What're you using to hold the film?
Finally, is this a composite or a single shot?

1. Low setting sun.
b. An old film holder from a Besseler enlarger that I placed on my Logan led light pad
iii. Single shot - they are holding the umbrella, looking into the sun.
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1. Low setting sun.
b. An old film holder from a Besseler enlarger that I placed on my Logan led light pad
iii. Single shot - they are holding the umbrella, looking into the sun.
To clarify, I meant the source for the scan (you ended up answering that) - and, since it's medium format, if you took multiple shots of the neg and then stitched together a composite from that.
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Ahh I see. No, just one shot of the negative filling the frame as much as I could. Obviously as the image was square, I had some unused real estate on either side of it on my cameras's sensor. Doing this the image was about 4000 by 4000 pixels.
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I use an old enlarger as a copy stand. Cost near zero.
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I'm using an old 6 by 7 enlarger with a copy stand adaptor. Enlarger £12. Copy stand adaptor £25 new. Lightpad - more, but it does bigger than 8x10

Pentax K1d plus 100mm macro is able to make sharp images corner to corner on 35mm.

Cheap and effective if you have the camera to start with
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This is my set-up - Sony A7r2, Olympus OM 85/4 bellows lens, Nikon PB-4 bellows, & of course adapters. Not shown is the Dracast LED light panel


Results I get copying negs and slides - as good as a dedicated slide scanner for my needs


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You may read favourable results from others using a 50mm enlarger lens with a Leica M, eg M240, but I have tried unsuccessfully with both a Componon-S 50mm f/2.8 and an El-Nikkor 50mm f/2.8. In both cases the BEOON column will not retract sufficiently to enable critical focus. The BEOON was designed to be used with a 50mm camera lens for 1:1 registration, and it does indeed as I found out. But corner sharpness is not perfect with the 50mm Summilux even stopped down to f11 as recommended.
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One of my first attempts

Light source was a colour enlarger head upside down and of course the enlargers neg carrier, hand held canon 6d with 50mm f 1.8, with extension tubes.neg is about 24 years old.
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Here are a couple more from my scanning set up. Overall I'm super happy with how these turn out. I use a home made copy stand, EM-5 II in High res mode with a 55/2.8 Micro Nikkor. I also have an old "negatrans" 35mm holder that has a knob to advance the film from frame to frame. So I load it up, and then can transport the frame across my light source easily.

This is HP5+/EI 1600/Microphen 1+0

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M3, Summaron 35 3.5 goggled, Fuji C200, D750 scan.
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Does any one have a solution for holding film flat—when doing DSLR scanning—that includes the full frame of the film (including the borders/rebate edges)?

The film border includes information I want to preserve when scanning. I really really want to have the entire film scanned.

I have gone through many different options, but can not find a working solution. All existing holders and masks (from scanners or enlargers et cetera), use the border to hold the film flat—covering the rebate edge.

The only thing I can think of now, is to design and build a custom holder solution. Something like ANR glass with small holes and a vacuum pump, sucking the film flat (like those Contax SLRs ... )
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You could use masking tape or sellotape.
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Does any one have a solution for holding film flat—when doing DSLR scanning—that includes the full frame of the film (including the borders/rebate edges)?
I put the negative, emulsion side up, directly on the light table, cover it with an 8.5" by 11" sheet of ANR glass, put the copy stand on top of the glass and take the shot. I can get away with this because I use a small copy stand (a Leica BEOON) that is easy to move around.
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I used to scan 120 film w/EP5 and 50/2 Oly Zuiko (4/3 w/adapter) on a copy stand and got the best scans...then i bought the Primefilm 120..which gives much better, and easier results w/Vuescan, and is a no brainer now.
Also if I were to shoot again w/m4/3, I'd wonder how the 50/2 performs on the latest Pen because it's the sharpest lens I used to scan film, including the fact (for my setup) it beat both the 55/2.8 micro Nikkor and the 60/2.8.
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Nikon F6, Zeiss 35 f2 ZF.2, Kodak E100GX expired 2005 shot at box speed, D750 scan.

Flickr unfortunately makes it much more contrasty than it actually is.

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I put the negative, emulsion side up, directly on the light table, cover it with an 8.5" by 11" sheet of ANR glass, put the copy stand on top of the glass and take the shot. I can get away with this because I use a small copy stand (a Leica BEOON) that is easy to move around.
Might I ask where you sourced an 8.5x11" sheet of ANR glass, and how much it costs? Thanks in advance!
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Kienzle Phototechnik in Germany is selling AN glass in various sizes and maybe also custom cut size. It might be a good idea to send them an email ask about size and price. http://kienzle-phototechnik.de/home_...iic__vall.html
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Nice one! I think you can still reduce contrast to your liking?

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Flickr unfortunately makes it much more contrasty than it actually is.

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Nice one! I think you can still reduce contrast to your liking?
Thanks! Away from flickr it looks fine. For some reason uploaded to flickr makes it look like clarity/contrast sliders have been pushed.
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