Old 05-19-2017   #161
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Thanks again to you x2 we need to catch up for that cheeky beverage.

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Old 05-22-2017   #162
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Old 07-05-2017   #163
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Hello,

I just received this BP M2 today, it was my dream to have an M2 in Black and it has finally come true.

There's a engraving in the back - some sort of a number - it says 480426-5736.
Anyone knows what that might be?

The camera has been used and abused from what I can see, there isn't a square cm surface that has no scratches or dings.

Thanks,
Ben

UPDATE: With the help of Philip (philipus) I managed to track the person down who was behind the engraved number. Very surprising how public this information is in Sweden. Thanks again Philip for your help, thanks to you I now have a camera I don't only love but also know some history about.

The person I tracked down got it used in Sweden at a second hand store in 1973 and the camera already had all the battle marks it has now. He sold it through an auction in Sweden in 2005 as a non-working camera.
What's still to be discovered is what the camera did between 1962 after leaving Wetzlar to 1973. I will keep digging and if I find something I'll update here.





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Old 07-05-2017   #164
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Looks delicious Ben, congratulations.

The number could be a Swedish "personal identity number". It may of course not apply, but it might. Such numbers are made up of the year, month and day of birth plus four more or less random figures after a hyphen.

It is not entirely uncommon for people to engrave their numbers on valuable possessions for insurance reasons.

EDIT: That does validate as a correct PID number:

http://www.personnummer.nu/

It's quite easy to find out who has that number.

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Hello,

I just received this BP M2 today, it was my dream to have an M2 in Black and it has finally come true.

There's a engraving in the back - some sort of a number - it says 480426-5736.
Anyone knows what that might be?

The camera has been used and abused from what I can see, there isn't a square cm surface that has no scratches or dings.

Thanks,
Ben





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Old 07-05-2017   #165
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Hello,

I just received this BP M2 today, it was my dream to have an M2 in Black and it has finally come true.

There's a engraving in the back - some sort of a number - it says 480426-5736.
Anyone knows what that might be?

The camera has been used and abused from what I can see, there isn't a square cm surface that has no scratches or dings.

Thanks,
Ben





that is very nice, I don't think it looks abused just well used!
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Old 07-05-2017   #166
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Looks delicious Ben, congratulations.

The number could be a Swedish "personal identity number". It may of course not apply, but it might. Such numbers are made up of the year, month and day of birth plus four more or less random figures after a hyphen.

It is not entirely uncommon for people to engrave their numbers on valuable possessions for insurance reasons.

EDIT: That does validate as a correct PID number:

http://www.personnummer.nu/

It's quite easy to find out who has that number.

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Hello Philip,

Just tried the site and sure enough, it says "Korrekt". I then tried changing just one number and it went bad so the number is good, you are spot on. Thanks for your help.

I assume the person born in 1948 would have been the 2nd or 3rd owner of this camera... given that it was made in 1962. Not many 14 year olds could afford a Leica back then.

How do you suppose I find out who that person is behind the number? I'd quite like finding out about where this camera has been.

Thanks,
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Old 07-05-2017   #167
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Bence, congratulations with your beautiful camera.

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Old 07-05-2017   #168
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Bence, congratulations with your beautiful camera.

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Erik - thanks a lot!

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Old 07-11-2017   #169
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1969 BP M4 w/ 1969 50mm V3 Summicron, my daily carry - best Leica I've ever used, had a DAG overhaul a few years ago
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It hardly gets any better!
Welcome to take it for a test drive anytime Gabor
Might just get your appetite going for an M2!

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Old 07-13-2017   #173
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Its a beauty! On that PID, there are 2 more things you can deduct from the last 4 numbers. 480426-5736. 57 gives the administrative province where the person was born, in this case its Älvsborgs län. 3 shows this is a man as an uneven number. 6 is created by an algorithm from all previous numbers to throw errors if the PIF is miss-typed.

As stated earlier, you can easily find the name of the person by signing up to some free sites or call the tax authority.

PS, let me know if you want to get together for some shooting and beer some night!. I'd be up for it.

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Hello Philip,

Just tried the site and sure enough, it says "Korrekt". I then tried changing just one number and it went bad so the number is good, you are spot on. Thanks for your help.

I assume the person born in 1948 would have been the 2nd or 3rd owner of this camera... given that it was made in 1962. Not many 14 year olds could afford a Leica back then.

How do you suppose I find out who that person is behind the number? I'd quite like finding out about where this camera has been.

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Leica M4 Serial Number 1181741 which I think puts it in 1967. I was two years old. Photography was not my focus. Pun sooooo intended.
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Congrats, Guy, with this beautiful camera. Confirms my theory that a black M4 with a serial number starting with 11XXXXX has a brass rewind knob.

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Congrats, Guy, with this beautiful camera. Confirms my theory that a black M4 with a serial number starting with 11XXXXX has a brass rewind knob.

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this box of goodies was owned by a friend of my father-in-law, an avid shooter. i remember an unused leicavit, dual-range summicron, and the 21 on the camera
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