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Old 02-09-2011   #1
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Show us you photographs made with uncoated lenses

I'm thinking about building a small kit of uncoated Leica lenses, just because I want to mostly. So how about some pics taken with uncoated lenses? Let's see what you have. Please post what lens it is too of you can.

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Old 02-09-2011   #2
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You can expect less shadow detail, less saturated colors, and blown highlights, and a low contrast image.

Have a 50 3.5, 90 4.0 & 135 4.5. All image the same

If the lens is fogged, expect the same but worse and if foggy enough the sharpness goes. .
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1930's Summar wide open with an extension tube on a Sony NEX-3 - this was practice for a series that I plan to do this summer of rare and endangered wildflowers in Western Pennsylvania

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These are all excellent work! Thank you all so much! Please keep them coming!
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Hello,
I wonder if the work of the British Photographer, the late James Ravilious, might give you some idea of the results obtainable with uncoated Leica lenses.
Please see :-
http://www.jamesravilious.com/biography.asp
These are great! Thanks for sharing, as I had never heard of Mr. Ravilious before.

Excellent images from everyone else, as well. Further proof that it's the photographer and not the gear that makes the picture. Who needs all those new-fangled coatings ?

I have an old uncoated nickel 5cm Elmar that is in desperate need of a CLA, and then I'll be joining in the uncoated fun.
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Wow!

Those "uncoated" Rollei pix are amazing ~ I have a 1939 IA that needs a CLA ~ (who repairs Rolleiflex in the USA?) ~ My kudos to Chris and MT for such kool shots showing a nearly forgotten art from camera

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Wow!

Those "uncoated" Rollei pix are amazing ~ I have a 1939 IA that needs a CLA ~ (who repairs Rolleiflex in the USA?) ~ My kudos to Chris and MT for such kool shots showing a nearly forgotten art from camera

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Mine has a lot of scratches on the lens and had some haze inside when I made those pics. I recently had the lens cleaned but have not tested it yet. So, yeah the results are very nice considering the camera's condition. This ancient Rollei was my first medium format camera. When I was 15 my dad took me to a photo swap meet and an old man there had nothing for sale but this camera and some misc. Rollei parts and accessories. He wanted $75 for the camera and my dad offered him $65, which the man took.
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Several years ago I was able to borrow an uncoated 1936 Leica Elmar 90/4. It was in beautiful shape. After looking at the results, I tried to buy it, but the owner wouldn't sell. I can't blame him!

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Hello,
I wonder if the work of the British Photographer, the late James Ravilious, might give you some idea of the results obtainable with uncoated Leica lenses.
Please see :-
http://www.jamesravilious.com/biography.asp
Thank you for sharing this link: absolutely wonderful site.

Some marvelous & encouraging pictures in this thread. Keep 'em coming please.

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Wow!

Those "uncoated" Rollei pix are amazing ~ I have a 1939 IA that needs a CLA ~ (who repairs Rolleiflex in the USA?) ~ My kudos to Chris and MT for such kool shots showing a nearly forgotten art from camera

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Tom,

Harry Fleenor is your man for Rollei CLA's and repairs. http://www.rolleirepairs.com/

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...who repairs Rolleiflex in the USA?...
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Harry Fleenor at Oceanside Camera Repair in CA

Krikor Maralian at Krimar Photo in NJ

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if you've watched the James Ravillious documentary film you may have noticed that they made a big thing of him building lens hoods to stop flare. But then they say he used uncoated lenses because they reduced contrast. But lenses are coated to stop flare which reduces contrast. So why do people want uncoated lenses? They reduce contrast by introducing more flare which fogs the film. You'll never get black blacks with flare unless you under expose. That's not to say you won't get good results but uncoated lenses are much more prone to flare if lighting is against you.

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1941 elmar f4, uncoated

what a small lens, but with amazing performance 70 years after manufacture.

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I have Rolleiflex TLRs with coated lenses, so I bought an older Rollei with CZJ lens, but it is broken, and I was told that a repair would be too costly. I wonder if Brian could transplant the lens into a shell for RF use somehow?
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Thank you Leica Tom and Shyoon!I love my old Rollei, even though it's tendency to flare ruins shots sometimes. Fair trade, I guess, when the one's that do come out have such a pleasant look.
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Some great photos here. Makes one wonder why anyone would like to spend big money on a new camera or lens. I got my Leica IIIa with 50/3.5 Elmar (not a museum piece, but very decent shape) for little more than a cup of fancy coffee.
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if you've watched the James Ravillious documentary film you may have noticed that they made a big thing of him building lens hoods to stop flare. But then they say he used uncoated lenses because they reduced contrast. But lenses are coated to stop flare which reduces contrast. So why do people want uncoated lenses? They reduce contrast by introducing more flare which fogs the film. You'll never get black blacks with flare unless you under expose. That's not to say you won't get good results but uncoated lenses are much more prone to flare if lighting is against you.
Quite right, but look at his photos, a lot of them are contre-jour. If you didn't have a sizeable lens hood, coated or uncoated, I think many of them would be a complete mess.

Lens hoods reduce the sort of direct flare that can obliterate an entire picture. But an uncoated lens, uncoated surfaces throughout, still has that veiling flare. So you get these muddy midtones, lack of contrast in the shadows, and creamy highlights. Many people -- obviously Mr Ravillious -- love the tonality that you can get. And have you seen his work? Certainly can't fault him for it.

I love the look in black and white, and in colour the results can be even more interesting, with soft pastel colours. That's why people like an uncoated lens or two in their kit, I suppose.

Of course veiling flare can sometimes overwhelm. I have a 1930s Rolleicord I with a badly scratched-up Zeiss Triotar 75/3.8 fitted. Here's an example where veiling flare reduced contrast to nothing (shooting wide open on an old triplet doesn't help either), but I still find the tonality appealing somehow.

I was keen to try this camera with colour, and loaded up a roll of Ektacolor 160 today. Unfortunately somewhere along the way it poozed a shutter blade, so I might have to wait

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Another one with the summitar. More from this roll on my blog, all with the summitar: http://eurodiego.blogspot.com/2011/0...-in-leica.html
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