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Polaroid comeback ?!?! tease
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Polaroid comeback ?!?! tease

also thought if they had the opportunity to stick around to see a analog resurgence they probably would, or at least I would love to see what they would be up to today.... http://www.thephoblographer.com/2017...phy-right-now/
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I'm all for anything analog ... but I'm not paying $2 for a single Impossible instant photo. I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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I am finally using my Land 250 camera after not feeling ready for Polaroid film for many months. It is a lot of fun to play with such a camera. The Polaroid camera brings out some extra creativity (hopefully!) as the film is expensive, and I am hoping that new types of film will be available soon.
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I've been a little disappointed with the contrastiness and slow developing of Impossible film, so if Polaroid opened its engineering archives to provide better technical solutions, I'm all for it. There is nothing like the charm of watching a good color photo develop in your hand. I'd love to use my Land camera or Spectra again, since they were head and shoulders better than my old 600.

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This obviously is about (some kind of) a marriage between Polaroid and Impossible Project (Impossible Project online store will be closed from 10-13th of Sept.).

I hope the hype invasion by Polaroid is too big to be just about branding (putting Polaroid name on existing Impossible films). I expect at least one new film that will be a significant improvement to Impossible and a further plan to get to something close to old Polaroid films.

Anyway, I can't wait the 13th of September (I hope Polaroid gives me a nice birthday present)!
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I shoot film, I shoot digital, I shoot Impossible...

Yes Impossible is expensive but the satisfaction is great...there is something magical in it and you do not need a many thousands EUR (or $) camera...

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As everything seems to be over-hyped, under-delivered and endlessly delayed these days (Film Ferrania anyone?) I won't be holding my breath.

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As everything seems to be over-hyped, under-delivered and endlessly delayed these days (Film Ferrania anyone?) I won't be holding my breath.

Let's hope I'm proved wrong about this one.
yes, it's possible we'll get interesting exciting news and it's possible there will be nothing interesting and we'll be disappointed...let's dream a little now

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I beta tested a new color film for them earlier this year, so at the very least, I suspect that film will be introduced.
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time-zero, time-zero, time-zero...please, please, please.

impossible project film is just...not good.
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Anything further will be great. I never had a chance to shoot with much instant Film and it's now incredibly expensive... tIP Film is also the best you can get, but not great.

I got a good deal on a Polaroid 330 with 2 Packs of FP100C and have been enjoying it (though nervous to shoot at, at £2/exposure...) and shoot much of Fuji's Instax.
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Polaroid has the marketing hype going...let's see if they can deliver anything better than the mainstream Fuji Instax and impossibly expensive niche market.
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Sorry to disappoint you all folks, but this is definitely just rebranded Impossible (albeit, possibly next gen) film.

Impossible own the Polaroid brand now and have been running their Impossible branded stocks down for months.

Someone on a subReddit has already leaked the new packaging - looks like it was designed by someone who had probably designed the newest IG logo (ironically enough).

Shame they didn't go with more classic Polaroid design, but there you go.

Don't expect anything earth shattering / game changing / deal breaking & you won't be too disappointed.
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With all the whining and complaining I read in this thread, it's a wonder that any of you call yourselves "film enthusiasts" at all.

The Impossible Project has done what no one else did: They brought Polaroid integral instant film back from the dead. At $2.30 per exposure, the price isn't cheap but it's not all that far out of bounds compared to original Polaroid integral film ... It used to cost $.70-$.85 per exposure when it was last made and, accounting for inflation, if it had stayed in production it would have been $1.25-$1.50 now. So a dollar premium for having to completely re-invent it in a ridiculously short period of time and then sell it in volumes barely approaching 1/20th of what Polaroid film sold in back in the day isn't all that bad.

Quality and consistency could certainly be a lot better, but not even Polaroid could make the original film any more ... the materials to do so are no longer available even if you had all the formulations, etc. The Impossible Project's B&W films (a product never even made by Polaroid for integral film cameras, btw) are really quite good and very consistent as of two-three years ago, and their latest color films are passably good quality and consistent. Lots of work yet to do, but remember it took Polaroid 20 years to devise integral films (and $2B dollars) where TIP has struggled with doing the same job in a quarter the time and at 20% of that funding.

While I fight with the TIP films occasionally and have to work hard to get results I'm after sometimes, I don't see any point to saying that TIP is a failure or not producing the goods. I've worked through close to 2000 exposures now and gotten many many excellent photographs from these films with my original and upgraded Polaroid cameras, and with the Impossible I-1 camera as well, so I laud their efforts and integrity.

Frankly, if I wanted excellent photographs and no struggles at all, I'd dump all this old film junk completely and concentrate exclusively on any good modern digital camera for my picture taking. But I enjoy working with film, with all its diverse expressions, inconsistencies, inherent weaknesses, and defects. In many ways, it's those things which make film photography still worth pursuing.
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With all the whining and complaining I read in this thread, it's a wonder that any of you call yourselves "film enthusiasts" at all.

The Impossible Project has done what no one else did: They brought Polaroid integral instant film back from the dead. At $2.30 per exposure, the price isn't cheap but it's not all that far out of bounds compared to original Polaroid integral film ... It used to cost $.70-$.85 per exposure when it was last made and, accounting for inflation, if it had stayed in production it would have been $1.25-$1.50 now. So a dollar premium for having to completely re-invent it in a ridiculously short period of time and then sell it in volumes barely approaching 1/20th of what Polaroid film sold in back in the day isn't all that bad.

Quality and consistency could certainly be a lot better, but not even Polaroid could make the original film any more ... the materials to do so are no longer available even if you had all the formulations, etc. The Impossible Project's B&W films (a product never even made by Polaroid for integral film cameras, btw) are really quite good and very consistent as of two-three years ago, and their latest color films are passably good quality and consistent. Lots of work yet to do, but remember it took Polaroid 20 years to devise integral films (and $2B dollars) where TIP has struggled with doing the same job in a quarter the time and at 20% of that funding.

While I fight with the TIP films occasionally and have to work hard to get results I'm after sometimes, I don't see any point to saying that TIP is a failure or not producing the goods. I've worked through close to 2000 exposures now and gotten many many excellent photographs from these films with my original and upgraded Polaroid cameras, and with the Impossible I-1 camera as well, so I laud their efforts and integrity.

Frankly, if I wanted excellent photographs and no struggles at all, I'd dump all this old film junk completely and concentrate exclusively on any good modern digital camera for my picture taking. But I enjoy working with film, with all its diverse expressions, inconsistencies, inherent weaknesses, and defects. In many ways, it's those things which make film photography still worth pursuing.
Yes, I agree 100 %

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I love Impossible Film in both color and B/W. I loved Polaroid 669 for it's inaccurate sky rendering (atomic sky) and Impossible though different than Polaroids rendering is also quiet nice. I don't always care about reality or absolute naturalism Impossible and Polaroid give me that. There also isn't any film that defines organic look as well as Impossible B/W film it's not super sharp, it's not without its fault just like life itself. I also believe that the film is on the expensive side but one has to take into account that one doesn't need to make a print, and getting the perfect darkroom print isn't cheap either. GoPolaroid
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My only regret is that I ignored using Polaroid cameras in past years.
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With all the whining and complaining I read in this thread, it's a wonder that any of you call yourselves "film enthusiasts" at all.

The Impossible Project has done what no one else did: They brought Polaroid integral instant film back from the dead. At $2.30 per exposure, the price isn't cheap but it's not all that far out of bounds compared to original Polaroid integral film ... It used to cost $.70-$.85 per exposure when it was last made and, accounting for inflation, if it had stayed in production it would have been $1.25-$1.50 now. So a dollar premium for having to completely re-invent it in a ridiculously short period of time and then sell it in volumes barely approaching 1/20th of what Polaroid film sold in back in the day isn't all that bad.

Quality and consistency could certainly be a lot better, but not even Polaroid could make the original film any more ... the materials to do so are no longer available even if you had all the formulations, etc. The Impossible Project's B&W films (a product never even made by Polaroid for integral film cameras, btw) are really quite good and very consistent as of two-three years ago, and their latest color films are passably good quality and consistent. Lots of work yet to do, but remember it took Polaroid 20 years to devise integral films (and $2B dollars) where TIP has struggled with doing the same job in a quarter the time and at 20% of that funding.

While I fight with the TIP films occasionally and have to work hard to get results I'm after sometimes, I don't see any point to saying that TIP is a failure or not producing the goods. I've worked through close to 2000 exposures now and gotten many many excellent photographs from these films with my original and upgraded Polaroid cameras, and with the Impossible I-1 camera as well, so I laud their efforts and integrity.

Frankly, if I wanted excellent photographs and no struggles at all, I'd dump all this old film junk completely and concentrate exclusively on any good modern digital camera for my picture taking. But I enjoy working with film, with all its diverse expressions, inconsistencies, inherent weaknesses, and defects. In many ways, it's those things which make film photography still worth pursuing.
Very well said.

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The Impossible Project's B&W films (a product never even made by Polaroid for integral film cameras, btw) are really quite good and very consistent as of two-three years ago, and their latest color films are passably good quality and consistent.
i really want IP to do well, and i REALLY want their products to improve. the B&W has rather little dynamic range. awful tonal range, low tonal separation in the highlights and shadows. meanwhile, the color is very sensitive to storage conditions, so much so that it's usually gone off by the time you buy it at the store. very inconsistent in my experience. you can see the extreme variance on flickr, too.
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Polaroid's site has a countdown with still a few hours to go, I looked at it earlier today and it should end around 2AM 14th Sept Central European time...


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Thanks Prest 400, so still 5 hours....I'll wait until tomorrow and I'll have a good sleep tonight
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Thanks Prest 400, so still 5 hours....I'll wait until tomorrow and I'll have a good sleep tonight
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You are welcome Robert. I was initially puzzled, as it is the 14th for us Europe and the rest towards the East; but still 13th for US and that time would be around 8PM East Coast.

Let's see. I mostly expect (what really would be the least) a whole lineup of Polaroid Instant film from what was impossible.

I lost track of the generations but there was some beta color testing this spring-summer. Possible they found it rather good and a decent Time Zero successor.

Some speculate possible cheaper pricing, which would be very welcome. Not too wealthy here, so shot little IP and prioritised MF color instead... Though I still have a couple 2015 mfd packs in the fridge from a sale.
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.....I lost track of the generations but there was some beta color testing this spring-summer. Possible they found it rather good and a decent Time Zero successor.......
I beta-tested this new color film back in the spring. Maybe a tad too warm (which was my main comment back to IP), but overall, I liked it.

Interestingly, a B&W conversion made from this beta color film (in PS) gives me a better B&W image than what I get from shooting normal IP B&W film.

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There's all sorts of new products on the polaroid.com web site now:

New Polaroid branded instant films in all the usual Impossible types...
New One Step camera...
New on-line magazine...
New Polaroid corporate look, as mentioned above....

So it looks like Impossible Project has simply moved most of their products to the Polaroid brand, which is smart marketing.

I can only hope that they also found the older chemical formulations to go back to. The beauty of chemistry is that suppliers will mix anything for the money, so I hope the 600 and Spectra films will develop more quickly, as they once did in their heyday. Oh, the MSRP's for the film packs appear to have dropped slightly too. I might have to buy a pack of color Spectra film for a little nostalgia.

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.........I can only hope that they also found the older chemical formulations to go back to. The beauty of chemistry is that suppliers will mix anything for the money, so I hope the 600 and Spectra films will develop more quickly, as they once did in their heyday. Oh, the MSRP's for the film packs appear to have dropped slightly too. I might have to buy a pack of color Spectra film for a little nostalgia........
Most likely that won’t happen. Many of the chemicals used with the original Polaroid instant films are no longer produced because of environmental reasons. Many small independent companies, which supplied various materials for the original Polaroid films, are also no longer around. So what IP has come up with, and will come up with, is all we will get.

What caught my eye is the big price drop on all of their films. That I do like.

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Is there any film for a Land 250 camera there?
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Just the old Fuji color and B&W stuff.

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Is Polaroid selling this type of film?
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Big name change. Impossible Project is now Polaroid (IP bought out the Polaroid name several months back).

Today’s announcement was to introduce the new “name” and to reintroduce re-badged films and cameras (and a new camera).

Nobody makes the old peel-apart Polaroid films for the 250 and other Polaroid cameras. When Fuji shut down production of FP-100C last year, that was the final nail was in the coffin for peel-apart films.

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I think they know they're competing against Instax, and against all the old Polaroid cameras in thrift shops and grandparent's closets.

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Big name change. Impossible Project is now Polaroid (IP bought out the Polaroid name several months back).

Today’s announcement was to introduce the new “name” and to reintroduce re-badged films and cameras (and a new camera).

Nobody makes the old peel-apart Polaroid films for the 250 and other Polaroid cameras. When Fuji shut down production of FP-100C last year, that was the final nail was in the coffin for peel-apart films.

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I was aware of the end of 100C film, Jim, but I did not know if Impossible Project has a new film for the old cameras.
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Huge news today, y’all. Will break it down into three main bulletpoints and then expand on things a bit more. So! 1️⃣ Firstly, and most notably, Impossible has now become Polaroid Originals. There is no more Impossible Project; they are now an arm of Polaroid simply called Polaroid Originals (find them on instagram at @polaroidoriginals_). 2️⃣ They have rolled out a new generation of film (15-20 min development time for color, 4 min for B&W, improved sharpness, contrast, color saturation) and have dramatically lowered the cost of film down to $18.99 per pack for 600 and SX-70 films, $19.99 for Spectra, and $15.99 for i-Type films (which can be used only in the i-1 Camera, the Instant Lab, and the OneStep 2). This brings us to number three. 3️⃣ They have just announced a new camera called the OneStep 2. It’s $99, comes in either White or Gray and is modeled after the original Polaroid SX-70 OneStep design. It appears to be built on top of an i-1 base, features a built-in flash, a 2-foot minimum focus distance, +/- exposure compensation, and looks great design-wise. ➡️ So holy moly… there’s a whole lot to say. This is fantastic!! New, improved, *cheaper* film for all the Polaroid camera systems across the board! Also, the fact that it is now simply called “Polaroid film” is actually quite a big deal. Your average consumer will “get it” right from the start and this will help expand the user base in a big way. We expect more R&D to come from this and expect to see the film quality improving at a much greater pace than it has been over the past 7 years that Impossible has been making film. The OneStep 2 looks cute and seems to be a decent camera. The i-1 was a huge disappointment in our opinion, but it seems this one may have landed. It’s affordable, uses i-Type film ($3 cheaper per pack than 600), and isn’t trying to be anything it’s not; it’s a simple camera that does a simple thing, just like the original OneStep. And, as for the rebrand - I am extremely happy for them. This is an incredible snake-eats-it’s-own-tail kind of moment and I think it’s absolutely brilliant. Polaroid is making film again. Today is a historic moment. ✨ #PolaroidOriginals (emphasis added)
yay, good news.
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