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[New test photos released] Leica Summicron 35/2 Eight Element copy made in China
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[New test photos released] Leica Summicron 35/2 Eight Element copy made in China

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A week ago, one of our forum member harryjiang created a thread sharing the exciting Leica copy project, which is the Leica first version 35mm f2 replica. Personally, I am very excited when I heard this news because I love classic Leica lenses. I have three Summicron 35mm f2 V1 in my collection. So I really want to compare the replica with my original Leica Summicron. Then I get in touch with the people who started this project. Unfortunately, I cannot get my hands on the prototype of the Summicron 35/2 replica since I am not living in China right now. But he is very kind to share some information about the project with me and send me some test shots taken with this lens. He wants me to share these photos on RFF and to seek some real opinion here. Please feel free to comment.

Here are the pictures taken with Leica monochrome + the Summicron 35/2 replica prototype at f/2 wide open.

I've been told that all the test photos were just slightly adjusted on Lightroom.



Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr



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Those look fine. Not sure I care for the look of the lens on the camera though. It would be nice to see some shots at f2 too. I don't shoot a digital camera, nor shoot anything below a 50 lens, so take that into consideration, but why is everything so in focus if the pics were shot at f2.4 according to the flickr info? Where's the bokeh?
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Those look fine. Not sure I care for the look of the lens on the camera though. It would be nice to see some shots at f2 too.
Thanks for your comment. All these shots are at f2 wide open.
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OK. Flickr shows f2.4. Probably not enough to make a difference.
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OK. Flickr shows f2.4. Probably not enough to make a difference.
Yea I noticed that too. But he told me all these photos taken at f/2.0. This information got confirmed with the test people.
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I kind of like the look of that lens. I own a v1 35mm Summicron and this looks just like it...liking the look of the picture samples too, even if there's only so much one can tell from downsized JPEGs on a website.

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Looks pretty cool. What would be the price point with this lens? Any shots on film too?
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I kind of like the look of that lens. I own a v1 35mm Summicron and this looks just like it...liking the look of the picture samples too, even if there's only so much one can tell from downsized JPEGs on a website.

It IS China...they're all smoking!
You could click on the photos to see the larger detail on Flickr. Ignore me if you already did. : )

Glad you like the samples.
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Looks pretty cool. What would be the price point with this lens? Any shots on film too?
I will let him know the request. Will add more pictures to this thread when I have them.

So far no specific price point for this lens. He told me he want to make it affordable for most of the people. But the production will be limit. By the way, he put tons of effort on the glass and coating that been used on this replica.
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The shots are made with the lens wide open, you can see that from the bokeh. Maybe f/2.4 is the "T" (true) opening.

The shots are technically very good in my opinion. How much is this lens? I want one, I love this prototype.

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The shots are made with the lens wide open, you can see that from the bokeh. Maybe f/2.4 is the "T" (true) opening.

The shots are technically very good in my opinion. How much is this lens? I want one, I love this prototype.

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Thank you Erik! Will let you guys know when he decide to release the price.
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These look great, and I love the look of the lens on the camera! I would be very interested in buying one too.

If there are some film photos taken with it, please share.

As mentioned in the other thread, having it available in LTM mount would entice even more buyers.
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I’ve already told him that many people wanting the LTM version. He heard you guys’ voice and said it is possible. But may take time to make this happen though. He is very busy working on this project now.
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Is this lens RF-coupled down to 0.7m?
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The shots are made with the lens wide open, you can see that from the bokeh. Maybe f/2.4 is the "T" (true) opening.

The shots are technically very good in my opinion. How much is this lens? I want one, I love this prototype.

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last time it was mentioned to be around US$500,00
not sure about the actual price when released.
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Too much bling for me, would like M-mount in black.
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Black paint not too glossy and a bit thin so it brasses out fast yes please. I think it may be challenging to keep it a limited run, what with LTM and a few different finishes. I'm very interested in this replicated glass. What is next? Noctilux 1.2? 1.0? Probable?
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The original Summicron 35mm f/2 v1 was not made in black paint, only in black chrome. These black 35's are very rare and expensive.


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The original Summicron 50mm f/2 v1 was not made in black paint, only in black chrome. These black 35's are very rare and expensive.
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So this is the perfect opportunity

I wrote "50mm f/2", but it must be 35mm f/2, of course.


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Lens needs to be tested at both aperture ends. Closed aperture, against the brick wall.
This will show if centering is correct.

And into the sun, the see how it handles the flare.
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Is this lens RF-coupled down to 0.7m?

Yes, just like the original one, 0.7m.
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As promised, here are the test shots on film.

Lens: Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype

Film: Kodak 400TX

Scanner: Imacon343


[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr


[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr

[test samples] Leica Summicron 35mm f2 Eight Element Replica Prototype made in China by Kevin-Xu, on Flickr
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I think the brass finish is fantastic! Makes it stand out from all the others out there.
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On the wide-open shots at the top, the boke looks busy, like it has lines in it. Does the Leica original have this same look?

Also, how many aperture blades, and are they curved?
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Are they going to be selling them in un-plated/un-painted brass like that? That would be pretty cool.

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Love the film photos! Brass, painted or neither, I just want to try one for myself.
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I think a lens in LTM would be more desirable than another M mount 35mm lens. Not many (any?)choices in a modern 35mm/2 LTM lens. It could be sold with the LTM to M adapter for those wanting the M mount. My 2 cents.
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It is nice that the Japanese Rayquall LTM to M adapters are again available in black.


LTM lenses are always better because they can be used on both the screw mount Leicas and the M.



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Thank you so much for the comments here! I will keep delivering your guys opinion to him. And I will keep updating information here.
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Looks good..!
Would like to see it compared to the real Leica 8 element at all apertures for comparison..
I did some quick testing of an 8 element back in the day..
Very nice lens..I actually liked it better than my "King of Bokeh" ver 4..

Should have bought it for $400-..before the prices went..whacko..
But then there is the issue..of..how is it mechanically..
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Mechanically the original Leitz lens is excellent. I have two of them, a goggled one and a normal one. It has the same quality as the Summaron-M 35mm f/2.8, maybe even better.

My only complaint is its propensity for flare.

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Oooh. +1 for a LTM version!

We need a new screwmount lens! (Plus the M guys shouldn’t mind using an adapter!)
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I'm so on board with the idea of making replicas of classic lenses. You're filling in a gap in Leica's "Classics Range" with the original 35/2. Can the next lens be a 50mm collapsible Summicron?

The test photos look good, but as with all bokeh shots, IMO the test isn't complete unless the wide open shots are taken side-by-side with the lens stopped down 2-stops.
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Mechanically the original Leitz lens is excellent.
Sorry for the confusion..I meant..how is the China lens mechanically..
This would be paramount in my mind..as well as QC..
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Sorry for the confusion..I meant..how is the China lens mechanically..
This would be paramount in my mind..as well as QC..

That is something that we all want to know.


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