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Old 10-06-2016   #361
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Thanks Jon for the info!
I didn't know it was introduced so late!

Did you ever had the chance to compare a vintage Olympic Nikkor and a reissue Millennium Nikkor side by side and see any imaging differences - anything substantial?

I never have seen any such comparison but have seen quite some comparisons of the Millennium Nikkor and other modern 50mm lenses (I think some of those made by you).

@ Giulio - you definitely should take that Nikkor-S.C on a camera quickly and enjoy - those are truly wonderful lenses - especially the shift in character from very dreamy wide open (the ladies love this) to slightly stopped down is impressive.
A lens at it's time with such capabilities was surely something (close focus, fast and sharp and contrasty already at f2 - it gave the Xenon / Summitar a run for it's money).
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Old 10-06-2016   #362
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This is with the last version of the "Sonnar" Nikkor-S 50mm f/1.4, no. 414866 at f/2.

Nikon S2, Nikkor-S 50mm f/1.4, Tmax400.

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Did you ever had the chance to compare a vintage Olympic Nikkor and a reissue Millennium Nikkor side by side and see any imaging differences - anything substantial?
I've handled several copies of Olympic Nikkors at stores in Tokyo but have never owned one, so have never had the chance to do a comparison. I know that several members here own both lenses and a comparison of both lenses has been discussed in the past, but we've had no takers yet. I'd be interested to see how they compare too (any takers?).
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Im finally posting on one of my RFF fave thread!

I only had the chance to shoot a test roll, I hope to show you something better soon.

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Giulio, that's a really interesting ramp you've shown here, along with your adorable daughter I assume. Are those steps actually in reverse, like a sawtooth pattern?
Lovely photo too, as usual.
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Nice Giulio, your lens looks like great copy and you surely will enjoy it!

Erik, you mention in your last photo here that the lens is of a later batch.

Did you see any differences between Nikkor 5cm Sonnar lenses between the different ages?
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Old 10-20-2016   #368
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Thanks Peter.
Indeed reverse steps, I suppose to safely park a car outside the garage.

Dirk,
my copy seems to have very clean glasses and I sent it out for a CLA too.
There was oil on the blades and quite some internal dust.

For what I have seen so far @1.4 is much more usable than my lux 35 infinity lock (less flare and less glow)

This was shot around 2.8 / 2.0

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Erik, you mention in your last photo here that the lens is of a later batch.

Did you see any differences between Nikkor 5cm Sonnar lenses between the different ages?
I only have two of them, 361184 and 414866, both Nikon S mount. I do not see much difference. From about f/2 they are great lenses, at full aperture it is acquired taste. I like full aperture for female portraits. I've heard however, I forgot when and were, that the lens during the production is recalculated for about 12 times.

When you want a dead sharp lens, the f/2 version is better, but you'll have to accept some distortion.

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I only have two of them, 361184 and 414866, both Nikon S mount. I do not see much difference. From about f/2 they are great lenses, at full aperture it is acquired taste. I like full aperture for female portraits. I've heard however, I forgot when and were, that the lens during the production is recalculated for about 12 times.

When you want a dead sharp lens, the f/2 version is better.

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Yup, I am not too crazy about its veiling flare when the Nikkor 5cm f1.4 lens is used at f1.4
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Nikon S2, Nikkor 50mm f/1.4, Tmax400 (1).

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I only have two of them, 361184 and 414866, both Nikon S mount. I do not see much difference. From about f/2 they are great lenses, at full aperture it is acquired taste. I like full aperture for female portraits. I've heard however, I forgot when and were, that the lens during the production is recalculated for about 12 times.

When you want a dead sharp lens, the f/2 version is better.

Erik.
Thanks Erik for that info bit - 12 times recompilation sounds indeed like a continuous evolution if only incremental should this indeed have happened.

I have two earlier samples starting around 31 if I remember correctly, one of them marked with Nippon Kogaku Tokyo, the other a later Japan version.

I like them all around and especially like that you have a sharp, nice compact lens from f2 on and a very special soft portrait lens wide open.

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Thanks Peter.
Indeed reverse steps, I suppose to safely park a car outside the garage.

Dirk,
my copy seems to have very clean glasses and I sent it out for a CLA too.
There was oil on the blades and quite some internal dust.

For what I have seen so far @1.4 is much more usable than my lux 35 infinity lock (less flare and less glow)

Giulio
Oil on Nikkor blades with lenses from the era is quite common - must have been something to do with the helicoid grease Nikon used on this generation.
The nice thing about old nikon RF lenses is that they do not tend to haze up and destroy themselves as frequently as certain Canon lenses or Leitz lenses of the time do.

I just got a 8.5 cm Nikon RF lens which looks as clear as crystal to my amazement and none of the other vintage Nikkors I got over the years had any of the bad haze as I have seen on many other lenses (particular Leitz from pre war into the late 50's).

The softness wide open should be about the same as a pre ASPH Summilux 35mm but with a different character.

I actually like this effect with the 5cm Nikkor - an old picture from my "Nippon Kogaku Japan" copy in LTM mount:

portrait - Nikkor-S.C 5cm f1.4 - contrast handling by Dirk Steffen, on Flickr
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Old 10-21-2016   #373
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Nikon S2, Nikkor-S 50mm f/1.4 #414866, Tmax400. Full aperture.

This is the typical effect of the Nikkor at full aperture.

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Seeing this thread pop up reminded me I have one of these and don't use it enough. LTM mount.

Kayla by Brennan McKissick, on Flickr

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Old 11-11-2016   #376
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Old 11-11-2016   #377
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Giulio, the last three are really beautiful! I like the first the best "You cannot see me …" ;-)
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Thanks Dirk.

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Lots of nice results here. A reminder that "newer, sharper, less CA, less vignetting", etc is only tangentially related, if at all, to "makes a better photograph" .

I respect Lloyd Chambers for the yoeman's work he does detailing the optical qualities of the latest lenses, but when was the last time you saw a photo on his site that approached the quality, as a photograph, of some of the ones posted in this thread? That's right, never.
"Better", newer glass is no substitute for vision and craft.
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Lots of nice results here. A reminder that "newer, sharper, less CA, less vignetting", etc is only tangentially related, if at all, to "makes a better photograph" .

I respect Lloyd Chambers for the yoeman's work he does detailing the optical qualities of the latest lenses, but when was the last time you saw a photo on his site that approached the quality, as a photograph, of some of the ones posted in this thread? That's right, never.
"Better", newer glass is no substitute for vision and craft.
Thanks to all those who have posted here.
I had never heard of this lens when I bought it and a Canon 35mm/2.8 and VI-T body back in the 1970's. I was the second owner at the time. The VI-T and 35mm lens are gone. I've added the Nikkor 8.5cm/2.0 to the 50/1.4. Two small brass and chrome pieces of photography history.
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Great one!
I somehow can not get nice one in focus with the nikkor50/1.4

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I think most of these were shot at f5.6, with the last three at f1.4...
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I just picked up a 50/1.4 Nikkor-S (serial # 331xxx) am testing it out on my Leica M-D.

First shot wide open - crazy background!


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A joy to shoot on a Leica M3, and makes an interesting portrait lens:



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The main batch started from 316000 all the way to 41xxxx. Early ones in chrome and later ones in black/chrome
If you have one with 7 digit serial number then you must have the real early example, those started with 5005xxxx
most have 8 digit numbers and some have 7 digit numbers:
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One of the early LTM versions in the 5005xxxx series, on it's new home, a Leica iiic. Fun "walking around" combo.


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