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Wide focal length (28mm or wider) fixed lens RF with leaf shutter?
Old 12-26-2019   #1
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Question Wide focal length (28mm or wider) fixed lens RF with leaf shutter?

Does something like the above exist?
I definitely prefer the 28mm focal length to any other I've found, and I am in love with the leaf shutters, nothing else does it for me these days.

Also, being compact is a consideration as well. The widest leaf shutter fast lens camera I've got is my Konica Auto S3, but I would like to go wider and potentially keep the format of this kind of camera if possible, don't wanna lug something heavy with me.

Am I searching for unicorns here, not gonna happen?

I could always go Minolta CLE plus 28mm lens, but I am wondering what else is there, if anything, that has an actual leaf shutter.

Thanks for reading guys. Cheers!
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Old 12-26-2019   #2
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There’s a scale focus camera called Kowa SW that comes up now and then. I haven’t used one, but it might meet your criteria.
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Old 12-26-2019   #3
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Canonet 28, though by all accounts I've read the lens is unremarkable.
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Old 12-26-2019   #4
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Never heard of Kowa before, wow that is a nice looking camera right there. Apparently super rare and expensive when you do find it. I don't think I am going to pursue it. But really nice knowing that something like this does exist!

Yeah... canonet is out too.
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Old 12-26-2019   #5
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One of Olympus xa series probably xa 4
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Old 12-26-2019   #6
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Olympus XA4, 28mm and compact, but scale focus.
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Old 12-26-2019   #7
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Not a fixed lens, but a Kodak Retina IIIS with a 28mm would give you a leaf shutter.
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Old 12-26-2019   #8
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I don't think such a beast exists, I'd be all over it, too.
The Retina IIIS requires an external finder, but yes it does have a RF coupled 28 and leaf shutter.
If you want to go to a larger camera, there's the Fuji GSW 690.
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Old 12-26-2019   #9
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Old 12-26-2019   #10
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Nikon LiteTouch AF600 is tiny with a superb 28mm lens but it is AF.
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Old 12-26-2019   #11
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Canonet 28, though by all accounts I've read the lens is unremarkable.
That's a 40mm lens. The 28 stands for max aperture of f2.8 not for the focal length.

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Kowa SW and XA4 are both scale focus cameras - though at 28mm, that isn't much of a problem.

If you're willing to go a little narrower to 35mm, the original XA ticks all of your boxes, especially compactness.
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Old 12-26-2019   #12
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A Vivitar Slim and Wide has a 2 element, 21mm f 8 (or thereabouts) fixed focus lens with a single speed shutter.
Hey, fulfills the leaf shutter requirement and will slip into a shirt pocket and weights about 4 oz with a roll of film installed.
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Old 12-26-2019   #13
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the leaf shutter is the thing because of the design of the lens... the Zeiss (Contarex) Hologon is 15mm f8 fixed focus. For your money, a voigtlander Bessa T or M (Cosina) with 25/21/18/16/12/10 is probably the best
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Nikon 28ti ?
It's AF / M, though, no RF.
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Nikon 28ti ?
It's AF / M, though, no RF.
And a fantastic lens.
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If you consider larger formats, Fuji GS645W or GF670W/Bessa IIIW or Makina W67 might be worth looking at. I don’t know of a 35mm fixed lens RF that wide with leaf shutter.
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If you consider larger formats, Fuji GS645W or GF670W/Bessa IIIW or Makina W67 might be worth looking at. I donít know of a 35mm fixed lens RF that wide with leaf shutter.
Please. If you're going medium format and you're going wide, go Veriwide!

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Nikon 28ti ?
It's AF / M, though, no RF.
And speaking of premium AF compacts with a 28mm lens, also the Minolta TC-1.
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And speaking of premium AF compacts with a 28mm lens, also the Minolta TC-1.
Yes, great lens. Although the TC-1 I had was very loud when turning it on and also when focusing.

The Contax TVS is another option for 28mm. Lens isn't quite as good as the TC-1 but quieter in operation. Also has an electronic rangefinder built in if you don't want to rely on the AF. Plus it zooms if you get bored with the wider view .

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Not RF focusing but, didn’t Ricoh have a very compact P&S with a very wide lens?
The name escapes me now. Ah the joys of getting old.
Edit; The GR, right? Finally popped into my head.
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Not RF focusing but, didnít Ricoh have a very compact P&S with a very wide lens?
The name escapes me now. Ah the joys of getting old.
Edit; The GR, right? Finally popped into my head.

The GR series was 28mm, which is wide but not hugely so. They made a limited run of 21mm GR cameras, though, which are hard to find and expensive to buy, not to mention hard to service.
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I had, and enjoyed the GR1 but always wondered about the cheaper R1s, which from memory, had a 30mm lens and a 20 something mm panoramic setting. I wonder if it has stood the test of time?
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wow, these responses are amazing. keep em coming guys

yeah from what it seems, I'll probably go for the Minolta CLE + 28mm one day (perhaps a Bessa), since nothing affordable is available...

point and shoots are out for me, nothing against them they are beautiful devices, but I do want a full photographic experience if possible, aiming, framing, manual focusing, light metering, physical controls for all relevant variables in exposure, etc etc
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um... what?


I guess the most cost effective slash future proof option is to go to LTM body and start using Jupiters and slowly ascend to Voigtlanders etc

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Yes, great lens. Although the TC-1 I had was very loud when turning it on and also when focusing.

The Contax TVS is another option for 28mm. Lens isn't quite as good as the TC-1 but quieter in operation. Also has an electronic rangefinder built in if you don't want to rely on the AF. Plus it zooms if you get bored with the wider view .

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The TVS series has the dreaded ribbon cable failure issue. The TVS III is the least likely to suffer as it is the newest. But I hated mine. Killer lens when it managed it nail focus but for some reason mine missed focus more times than not. Plus I could not stand the trapdoor lens cover. Wish they kept the design of the TVS II.
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um... what?


I guess the most cost effective slash future proof option is to go to LTM body and start using Jupiters and slowly ascend to Voigtlanders etc

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Yeah an LTM maybe the best option. Even Bessas are getting pricey, and I have had two CLEs die from electrical failures.
Canon has some nice options, as of course Leicas and Zorki or Fed.
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The TVS series has the dreaded ribbon cable failure issue. The TVS III is the least likely to suffer as it is the newest. But I hated mine. Killer lens when it managed it nail focus but for some reason mine missed focus more times than not. Plus I could not stand the trapdoor lens cover. Wish they kept the design of the TVS II.
I really like my TVS ii, especially just twisting the lens to turn it on, no noisy motors to extend the lens. No ribbon failure so far, and for luxury P&S they are still relatively affordable. Although, the lens doesn't seem quite as wide as the TC-1 it replaced.

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I really like my TVS ii, especially just twisting the lens to turn it on...
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Yes, that was perfect! Why did they mess with that? With my III when you turned it on, you had to first wait for the flap to lower, then the lens to extend. And the flap seemed so vulnerable like it could snag on something at any time.
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I had, and enjoyed the GR1 but always wondered about the cheaper R1s, which from memory, had a 30mm lens and a 20 something mm panoramic setting. I wonder if it has stood the test of time?
I've been absolutely beating the crap out of my R1s for years now (basically lives in my pocket daily). Still going strong. The LCD screens are known to die...but mechanically they seem to be quite robust.

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I wonder if a wide angle converter would work on the S3?

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Does something like the above exist?
I definitely prefer the 28mm focal length to any other I've found, and I am in love with the leaf shutters, nothing else does it for me these days.

Also, being compact is a consideration as well. The widest leaf shutter fast lens camera I've got is my Konica Auto S3, but I would like to go wider and potentially keep the format of this kind of camera if possible, don't wanna lug something heavy with me.

Am I searching for unicorns here, not gonna happen?

I could always go Minolta CLE plus 28mm lens, but I am wondering what else is there, if anything, that has an actual leaf shutter.

Thanks for reading guys. Cheers!
I like leaf shutters for flash work, but I do use focal plane shutters fairly often. So, what's driving the requirement for a leaf shutter and a fairly wide lens?
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Fuji Klasse W has a 28mm fixed lens. But they're getting expensive now.
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