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Old 04-25-2019   #1
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Bokeh examples

On this website: https://flashbackcamera.jp/photogall...ist_type=alpha Bokeh examples are available for practically all photographic lenses.


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Old 04-25-2019   #2
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Whoa, this is cool. Thanks!
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Old 04-25-2019   #3
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Wow! How'd you find this site? I'm going to be spending a lot of time looking around.
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Thanks a lot for sharing Erik !
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Old 04-25-2019   #5
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My favorite is the Cooke Amotal. Never heard from this lens, but it is incredible.


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Old 04-25-2019   #6
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Interesting, thanks, though there are many “bokeh” lenses that aren’t there I’d imagine a complete accounting would be close to impossible. Good effort though.
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Old 04-25-2019   #7
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Maybe they are still working on it.



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Old 04-25-2019   #9
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My favorite is the Cooke Amotal. Never heard from this lens, but it is incredible.


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That lens was made by Cooke for the Bell & Howell Foton camera.

That camera turned out to be a bit of an overpriced flop at 700 USD in 1948 so a well known US camera store bought the surplus lenses and had them mounted in a roughly made aluminium helical body in LTM in Italy (and even a few were made to fit the Contax RF camera) and sold them with Leica cameras .. as there was some loophole where this camera store could sell a new Leica body with a non Leica lens for much less money than Leitz dictated to their US dealers for the usual Leica with a Leitz lens in the early 1950s.
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Old 04-25-2019   #11
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That lens was made by Cooke for the Bell & Howell Foton camera.

That camera turned out to be a bit of an overpriced flop at 700 USD in 1948 so a well known US camera store bought the surplus lenses and had them mounted in a roughly made aluminium helical body in LTM in Italy (and even a few were made to fit the Contax RF camera) and sold them with Leica cameras .. as there was some loophole where this camera store could sell a new Leica body with a non Leica lens for much less money than Leitz dictated to their US dealers for the usual Leica with a Leitz lens in the early 1950s.
The lenses were made by Taylor, Taylor and Hobson in 1948. They sell like hot sandwiches nowadays; the lens heads are placed on old Leica screw mount flanges to make them fit on digital cameras.

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Old 04-25-2019   #12
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Super cool!! Thanks for the link, Erik!.
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Old 05-15-2019   #13
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A shot with my Amotal (1948), on film (Leica MP), full aperture:


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Congrats on your new lens Erik.
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Old 05-15-2019   #15
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Thank you, Pan, this lens is incredible!


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Old 05-15-2019   #16
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What a wonderful lens (and excellent link)! - thanks very much Erik.
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On this website: https://flashbackcamera.jp/photogall...ist_type=alpha Bokeh examples are available for practically all photographic lenses.


The list is too long to copy.



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What an interesting site. Thanks!
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Old 05-17-2019   #18
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Leica MP, Cooke Amotal 2'' f/2, 400-2TMY.

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Congrats on the lens Erik - wonderful examples!
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Another great site with tons, and tons, and tons of lenses from the pedestrian to the most exotic:


https://spiral-m42.blogspot.com/


Each blog post goes into a little history and sometimes the design of the lens.
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Old 05-18-2019   #21
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Thank you, Lynn!


Great site, tunalegs, I will spend hours there.


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Just exquisite Erik, and great link Tunalegs. Plenty to read on my 3 hour train journey!
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Old 05-31-2019   #23
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbUutOk9PA


Great item on YouTube about Jeffo Wong, the lens collector.


This is his Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/44264/...7668435445131/



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Old 07-07-2019   #24
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Nikon S2, Nikkor 50mm f/1.4, 400-2TMY.

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Old 07-07-2019   #25
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Leica M3, Cooke Amotal 2'' f/2, 400-2TMY, printed on Adox MCC 110.

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Old 07-07-2019   #26
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Maybe it is not a bokeh-king like the Dallmeyer Super Six 2'' f/1.9 but the rangefinder Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 certainly delivers a nice dreamy image from time to time.

Nikon S2, Nikkor 50mm f/1.4, 400-2TMY.

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Hmmm, here's one of my faves. The Petri Orikkor 2/50 in M42 mount. It seems only available for one year, and of a design which is entirely unique among 50mm lenses. It has a tendency to sparkly/double-lined boke' like some of the Meyer lenses, as well it can produce strange rainbow color flares even in low light. But very sharp. Possibly the weirdest lens in my collection.



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Maybe it is not a bokeh-king like the Dallmeyer Super Six 2'' f/1.9 but the rangefinder Nikkor 50mm f/1.4 certainly delivers a nice dreamy image from time to time.

Nikon S2, Nikkor 50mm f/1.4, 400-2TMY.

Erik.

I listed a Super-Six on eBay ten days ago as part of a collection I was asked to sell, and much to my surprise it's gone absolutely mental, it is almost at AUS $20k now, and not done yet. I'm astounded.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbUutOk9PA

Great item on YouTube about Jeffo Wong, the lens collector.

This is his Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/44264/...7668435445131/

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Thanks for sharing that video, Erik! Mr. Jeffo Wong has his own thread here on RFF called Playing old cine lenses on Leica, shooting many of the old cine lenses in his collection. Some wild and unique bokeh!
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I listed a Super-Six on eBay ten days ago as part of a collection I was asked to sell, and much to my surprise it's gone absolutely mental, it is almost at AUS $20k now, and not done yet. I'm astounded.
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Yes, we are following it with great interest. Unfortunately the price is (far) too high for me. But what a beauty!


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Old 08-04-2019   #31
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Nikon S2, Zeiss Sonnar 50mm f/1.5 (prewar uncoated), 400-2TMY/Adox MCC 110.

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I listed a Super-Six on eBay ten days ago as part of a collection I was asked to sell, and much to my surprise it's gone absolutely mental, it is almost at AUS $20k now, and not done yet. I'm astounded.
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ca. EUR 14.627,89. Congratulations!


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ca. EUR 14.627,89. Congratulations!

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Thanks, Erik. Crazy stuff. The owner ought to be pretty happy with that, I think. Unfortunately, I don't get to keep it all myself. I'm astonished it fetched very nearly $24k Aussie dollars.
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I'm sure the buyer was Chinese, most probably from Hong Kong.

A truly rare lens, I've never seen it before.

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Old 09-09-2019   #35
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Leica MP, Summilux 50mm f/1.4 v1 (black), 400-2TMY/Adox MCC 110.

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