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Old 06-04-2018   #41
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I need to quit reading about T90s and stay focused on finding a New F-1...
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Are there any decent places like RFF where Canon film users congregate?
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Are there any decent places like RFF where Canon film users congregate?
Not really. Most FD users have moved on to something else. The best place to go is probably the FD group on Photo.net. Outside of the picture of the month, not much activity, but if ask a question, you will get an answer.

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Old 06-06-2018   #44
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There is a Yahoo groups for Canon FD, but I can't stand the format so never go there. Also, some groups on Flickr but a lot of those are lens based vs the entire system so people can show shots made with mirrorless.
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I used to own 3 of these, still have one left with a slow mirror return (needs an overhaul), that I don't use anymore. My favorite film SLR, no question.

I always used just the FN "eye-level" finder, as the AE finder struck me as bad kludge, from an engineering perspective. Instead of aperture-priority AE, I set aperture on the lens and used the match-needle meter to select the shutter speed with the viewfinder held to my eye. The manually selected shutter speed is visible below the aperture/meter scale. With practice, I got pretty quick at it, and this also allowed me to do on-the-fly/ad-hoc exposure compensation, without removing my eye from the VF.

If you have the motor drive, there should be blank holes on it, where you're supposed to screw in the camera base plate plugs for storage, so you don't lose them after removal to mount the motor drive. (I think that might be on the bottom of the drive, hidden by the mounted battery pack.) Sometimes the motor drive is sold separately by someone who forgot to recover his base plate plugs. :-)

BTW, I still have some nice accessories for the F-1N, including an AE power winder (much less beastly than the motor drive), a wireless remote release LC-1 and a SpeedLite 299T.
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My motor drive and battery pack arrived and look great, no extra body caps included. Lol. I also grabbed a clean nFD 50/1.8 so I have glass when the time comes.
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Not really. Most FD users have moved on to something else. The best place to go is probably the FD group on Photo.net. Outside of the picture of the month, not much activity, but if ask a question, you will get an answer.

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I drifted over there and was only slightly surprised to see I hadnít logged in since 2010. Is it any more civilized these days? The Leica forum in particular used to be a snakepit.
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I drifted over there and was only slightly surprised to see I hadnít logged in since 2010. Is it any more civilized these days? The Leica forum in particular used to be a snakepit.
The FD forum is actually quite polite. All the hotheads have long left for something else (probably all on APUG now). Conversations come and go, but are always civil. Again, if you ask a question somebody will almost always answer.

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when i had questions about my f1 there was lots of answers here.
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Well my buddy got me a super clean (glass-wise) 20/2.8 SSC for a wedding gift so I guess I’ll give that a whirl here soon. The FD system is so good and cheap.
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I’ve been reading up on lenses, and think I’m going to look for three, all nFD - 35/2, 50/1.4 and 100/2.8. I don’t want this to get out of hand.
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Iíve been reading up on lenses, and think Iím going to look for three, all nFD - 35/2, 50/1.4 and 100/2.8. I donít want this to get out of hand.
I purchased like-new 35/2.8 and 100/2.8 New FD lenses at very good prices.
If I take to my Canon EF I may consider faster glass in those focal lengths.

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No pun intended, but I really suck at keeping focus. Lol. I fell across this clean, functional T90 for a price that I couldn’t pass up. The metering system absolutely fascinates me. It has an optical lens cap for now, I have a 35-70/4 on the way. I’ll keep watching for primes, too.

Still looking for a New F1, though.
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No pun intended, but I really suck at keeping focus. Lol. I fell across this clean, functional T90 for a price that I couldnít pass up. The metering system absolutely fascinates me. It has an optical lens cap for now, I have a 35-70/4 on the way. Iíll keep watching for primes, too.

Still looking for a New F1, though.
must have been a hell of a deal to beat free...
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must have been a hell of a deal to beat free...
It was given to me by a coworker, all it cost me was lunch and a few things I wasn’t using.
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It was given to me by a coworker, all it cost me was lunch and a few things I wasnít using.
gotta love a deal! especially a local one.
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Yeah, the total value of the stuff he wanted was about $40, plus a $10 lunch. I did well.

Now if I can just find a similar deal on a New F-1.
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Yeah, the total value of the stuff he wanted was about $40, plus a $10 lunch. I did well.

Now if I can just find a similar deal on a New F-1.
i'm keeping mine...along with the 24 and 100 lenses.
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Whelp, a very nice condition, smooth focusing nFD 50/1.4 arrived today, the hood for it should arrive in a few days, and I have a nFD 100/2.8 and hood on the way from KEH. I’m about half way through a test roll in the T90, the weather and my schedule haven’t been cooperating.

I was playing more with the multi spot metering yesterday - amazing. I think this T90 is going to see a fair amount of Velvia, I remember a friend back in the day telling me how his then new T90 increased his ‘chrome exposure hit rate dramatically.
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I was able to source what appears to be a very clean New F-1 with AE finder, it should be here in a week.

Almost done, I would still like a 35/2 and possibly a 24/2 or 2.8, all nFD. And maybe, just maybe an 80-200 L too, they are surprisingly affordable and have a stellar reputation.

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Any first hand body battery experience? I’m guessing a PX28L lithium is preferred over alkaline or silver oxide options, but all three are listed in the manual as being suitable.
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Silver Oxides will last the longest, but they're hard to find. The lithium battery is common, they sell them at walgreens, kroger, and walmart. Alkalines used to be easy to find where I live but they're less so now. Icouldn't find silver oxides anywhere but the camera store.
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I used the PX28L. The battery lasts for a very long time except when the camera is used in very cold weather. I then used to use a motor drive with a cord that had at the end a battery for the F1N. The camera meter was then powered by the large batteries in the MD.
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Any first hand body battery experience? Iím guessing a PX28L lithium is preferred over alkaline or silver oxide options, but all three are listed in the manual as being suitable.

I recommend the Lithium version, if only because it doesn't leak as it dies. Both silver oxide and alkaline will leak and can damage the battery contacts. I switched to the CR1/3N in my old F2 Photomic and F3 for that reason and because they don't swell, a problem with the F2 that would break the battery housing. The PX28L is really 2 CR1/3Ns in a package. The PX28 silver oxide is 4 S-76s wrapped together.
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Good info, thanks!
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I used the PX28L. The battery lasts for a very long time except when the camera is used in very cold weather. I then used to use a motor drive with a cord that had at the end a battery for the F1N. The camera meter was then powered by the large batteries in the MD.
Iím not going to bother because this is just going to be a very nice toy, but I was thinking one of those cords rigged to a separate 6v battery pack would be the ticket for cold weather use without needing the nicad battery pack that has the receptacle.
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We seem to be missing photos of these recent FD acquisitions. I think I recall what they look like, but I could do with a reminder ...
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Well, the T90 and optical lens cap are up a few posts - I’ll do another after the New F-1 and 100 are here.
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Well, the T90 and optical lens cap are up a few posts - Iíll do another after the New F-1 and 100 are here.
Ah yes. Missed that one. Looks very clean. Congratulations!

Iíve been eyeing off an F1 for some time. Not many available in Oz. Have to live vicariously for the present ...
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Ah yes. Missed that one. Looks very clean. Congratulations!

Iíve been eyeing off an F1 for some time. Not many available in Oz. Have to live vicariously for the present ...
It is quite clean, with just a little of the polycarbonate buffing that you see with these. It was an amateurís camera.

The New F-1 will be the culmination of 35 years desire to have one. Even now they arenít cheap, but I figure getting a CLA will keep it working properly for the rest of my life.
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Big day today at Chez Ford. The New F-1, 100/2.8, and hoods for both the 100 the 50/1.4 arrived.

The F-1N is a beast! I haven’t handled one in at least 25 years, and my memory of it was accurate - every inch and ounce a professional grade camera. It came with an AE screen which the manual states was standard with the AE finder.

After a few “I’m a moron” moments freaking out about why the camera wouldn’t fire in shutter priority mode (mount the motor, fool!) I attached the drive and battery pack and gave it some light exercise.

It’s funny how sounds can trigger memories - a motorized F-1N has a very distinctive hollow sound that takes me back to hot afternoons shooting football on the sidelines and nights in dimly lit gymnasiums trying to capture peak basketball action with about five stops too little light. Ha!

I’ll try to take a few beauty shots of the new gear in daylight tomorrow.
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Old 06-19-2018   #72
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Reading your posts inspired me to pull out my F-1N and take some pics at an airshow this past weekend. I attached the Power Winder when I needed shutter speed preferred automation, and switched over to aperture-preferred automation when I used my FD 500mm mirror lens. Such a well-designed camera. I love that it can be configured anyway you want.

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Old 06-20-2018   #73
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As promised:



BTW, the rigmarole you have to go through to attach photos from an iPad is nutty. I think itís because the forum software doesnít like Appleís default naming conventions. And the allowable file size is minuscule.
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Old 06-20-2018   #74
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Congratulations Ken. What a lovely beast! Enjoy her in good health.

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Old 06-20-2018   #75
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BTW, the rigmarole you have to go through to attach photos from an iPad is nutty. I think it’s because the forum software doesn’t like Apple’s default naming conventions. And the allowable file size is minuscule.
Such an outfit replaces going to the gym for weight lifting! Enjoy the F1N. It is an awesome "photography machine". The Nikon F3 and later models overshadowed this beauty. I stuck with Canon FD cameras though.
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Old 06-24-2018   #76
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I always liked them/read about them all the time. My dad used to take me to hang out at Ken Hansen's when I was a kid in the mid 90s. Used to seeing the Canon and Minolta promo material everywhere. I have a mechanical F1 and the winding is the smoothest and nicest ever
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Old 08-21-2018   #77
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You guys made me so jealous. I went into my local camera store today for printer ink. They had an Old F-1 on the used shelf at a give-away price of $89.00. The original F-1 is my favorite variant. It looked a little ratty with paint smudges, but it seemed to work perfectly and there was no brassing. When I got it home, I cleaned it and found the smudges were just dirt. What a beauty. My lens selection is limited to 50mm, for now.
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Old 08-26-2018   #78
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Even if you get the basic FN finder, setting the camera to A gives you aperture priority.
Just checked this on my F1N with plain finder, owned for around 20 years.

I now have priority aperture AE on my best handling camera.
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