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Old 04-25-2016   #1
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Moving to Mac - what processing software?

I'm finally updating from my 12 year old PC running XP and CS2 to a new 27" 5K iMac.

What are people using for post on Macs? I don't do anything too serious - crop, levels, sharpen, resize - and work with Nikon, Fuji and Sigma RAW files.
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For the Nikon, Fuji and Sigma Merril RAW Iridient Developer is great.

http://www.iridientdigital.com/

A very good developer and full layed photo editor is Affinity Photo.

https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/

Affinity does not yet support XP2 though and it won't handle Sigma files.

RPP64 can do well with Fuji files too and has beautiful film looks built in. WB and colors are quite a bit different with RPP64, it very much has a look to it. Interface is a little odd but you get used to it. This is donationware so it is certainly worth checking out.

https://www.raw-photo-processor.com/RPP/Overview.html

RPP64 supports the XP2 but you have to go to the support forum to download their latest beta version. The link on their webpage is to an older version.

And of course there is Capture 1 and Lightroom too.

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I'm using Lightroom having been an ACDsee Pro user on a PC ... ACDSee for Mac is a dog!

Sigma raw files are a bit of a pain because LR doesn't support them ... I run them through SPP and convert to tif for adjusting in LR. I'm seriously hoping that when Sigma releases their new mirrorless cameras Adobe will come to the party but I won't be holding my breath!
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Thanks - I'll check those out! The iMac should be here the end of next week, I'm trying to do some of my research now.
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I have the Adobe Photoshop+Lightroom Creative Cloud, $9.99/month and you can use it on all your machines (iMac, iPad, iPhone ...). Love it!
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What do you think of this? Probably familiar since you're using CS2.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search...op+Nav-Search=

I notice download version available. Check to see if it will work wih your OS.
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I'll probably look for a demo of Elements - it might be what I need.
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I have CS4 on my iMacs but I do have Elements on a MacBook and it has all I need. Two important features of Photoshop for me are layers and blending. I use ACR to work on my RAW files and CS4 works for all of my digital cameras.

When I upgrade to a new iMac I'll go with Elements. Just me, I'm not a big fan of subscription. I want to do my own thing without having to connect to the internet each time I want to work and I want to keep my files in house on USB external hard drives and not on some server farm in Oklahoma.
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I'll probably look for a demo of Elements - it might be what I need.
If you find this, please let me know.
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Get a Macbook with Windows 10.
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Get a Macbook with Windows 10.

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I'm finally updating from my 12 year old PC running XP and CS2 to a new 27" 5K iMac.

What are people using for post on Macs? I don't do anything too serious - crop, levels, sharpen, resize - and work with Nikon, Fuji and Sigma RAW files.
Most people I know who are buying Macs are putting Windows 10 on them for better performance.
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Here is a free 30 day trial for Photoshop Elements from Adobe:

https://adobeid-na1.services.adobe.c...low_type=login


Or you can go here and click on Elements:


http://www.adobe.com/downloads.html
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I bought CS6 Design Standard (including Photoshop) four years ago when it was still a DVD. Same for Lightroom 4, which I never use. I'm more used to PS. Maybe you could get a good second-hand install of CS6 Design Standard or Lightroom 4 for Mac. I believe these were the last versions available as install disks. I have been able to update Adobe Camera Raw to the more recent digital cameras I have like Sony A7S and Nikon D3300.
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Ken - I've been using Affinity Photo and find it is more than enough for me - like anything else it takes a bit of trial and error and google skills to figure out how to do what you know must be possible - but overall a very complete application

I also use Pixelmator occasionally and then Photomatix for HDR processing
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i started out with photoshop elements and have stayed with it.
pretty simple and works well enough for me.
not sure if i have the latest version or not but i think i do...
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It is all Mac Greek to me, I don't understand what the problem is. Can't you just use what you were using before?
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$10/month for Lightroom plus Photoshop is pretty darn cheap... maybe you have to give up a couple beers a month? How much do your phone, mobile, internet and cable bills run? (I've dropped TV and landline, so it's not hard at all to justify the $10 for photo processing, not to mention a couple other SaaS products, like ISP hosting.

Lightroom does asset management (cataloging & tagging) and adjustments, plus crops & exports. These are all things that I couldn't live without. I use Photoshop for work, but not so much for photography.

Now that Google has made the Nik collection free, you have a lot of high-powered software available that integrates directly with Lightroom.

You're going to be very thrilled with the speed of your new computer.
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Can't you just use what you were using before?
keep using 12 year old PC?

update to Mac sounds like a good idea to me
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Small desktop footprint, great monitor, good performance, high-speed connection to large external drives - the 5K iMac makes a compelling case for itself as a photo processing and general-purpose machine.

Personally I use the CC Lightroom/Photoshop combination on both OSX and Windows 10, and find they complement each other very well; adding the (free) Nik collection to the mix gives extra capabilities.
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I am using preview (built-in MacOS) and sometimes GIMP when I wish more functions. Since years.
No need for RAW or some commercial extras here
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Another vote for the Adobe CC suite, mainly LR sometimes for special purpose PS.
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Great information, people - lots to research. Many thanks!
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That's a really nice machine you have coming. Might be the best display every put on a computer. I like Lightroom, but not the subscription system...you might actually consider trying out OSX Photos as your main software. It comes with the OS and is not bad at all, and gradually improving.
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I never liked the thought of subscribing to Adobe but went for it anyway the basic one £8.99 a month for cc and Lightroom, before that after moving to a Mac tried Lightroom but found it just too slow compared to photomechanic so went back to what I used on my pic before switching cc and photomechanic.
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I use LR CC.

However I suggest you start with Pixelmator. It is inexpensive and powerful. I found it easy to learn. Pixelmator is in the App store.

Pixelmator uses the OS X's raw rendering tools. Apple is slower than Adobe at supporting raw files for new camera releases. Otherwise, the OS-X raw rendering engine is quite good.

I respectfully disagree with mabelsound, Apple's Photos App is barely useful as a raw rendering platform. However it is convenient for sharing photos if you use iCloud. You can even share Albums with non-Apple users. I use Photos to slap together photo books for family members. It's easy and reliable. I also use Photos to organize photos that other OS X Apps use natively such as the web-site builder Sandvox.
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Pixelmator is worth a look and consider since they have a free trial.

Lots of choices available.

Link to Pixelmator:

http://www.pixelmator.com/mac/#

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Photos might be enough for some people; I'm just suggesting he give it a try. But it isn't enough for me, ultimately. It is wonderful for sharing and syncing to a phone, though—it's great to have copies of all my pictures with me at all times.

Pixelmator is spectacular, as a Photoshop substitute. In fact, they have a new plugin for Photos, which I haven't tried yet; I'm sort of hoping that it will allow me to abandon Lightroom?
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Here is another one I would eye over. If this is the type of photos you make. When I was working, I figured out how to do this with Photoshop but I think this would take people photography to another level.

http://studio.portraitprofessional.c...FZaEaQod7GgK2Q
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When I upgrade to a new iMac I'll go with Elements. Just me, I'm not a big fan of subscription. I want to do my own thing without having to connect to the internet each time I want to work and I want to keep my files in house on USB external hard drives and not on some server farm in Oklahoma.
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You're misinformed about how CC works. You don't connect to the internet each time you use the software and all your files remain local.
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I meant software.
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As you can tell I don't use the newest and latest.

Thanks for the correction.

From looking at the subscription I would need to log in initially to activiate, like in the past, and, with the subscription model, log in every 30 days to 99 days depending on subscription payment to make sure I'm a paying customer and receive updates. I imagine if you don't log in when it's time you get locked out. I don't need to do that with my current set up.

I think I'll stay with what I have as it works just fine for me.
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The iMac will come with a program called Photos. Give that a try, it's not very professional but might be enough for your needs. Aperture is a splendid Apple program that they decided to orphan. Still it is reported that the RAW compatibility will continue as it uses the same code as the new Photos program. I got the stand alone version of Lightroom as I just feel there is a ripoff in the making with the rental program from Adobe.
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Are you looking more for photo processing or photo management or both?

I have the pre-subscription version of Lightroom that does both. I also own Photoshop which I use for work things but almost never for post processing photos anymore as I like Lightroom's non-destructive edits.

There may well be better options for RAW conversion etc, but I find Lightroom is good enough for most things. Eventually I will cave and move to the Lightroom/Photoshop subscription, probably when I can't read client's Photoshop files anymore for whatever reason but for now the standalone Lightroom does everything I want.
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More photo processing.

I think I'm going to give PSE a try - Adorama will include a copy for $39 with the iMac. (If I can get them to add it to my order, that is.) A question, though if anyone knows - does PSE 14 do Smart Sharpen?
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You can continue using CS2 for Windows XP on your new iMac for now if you like. You'll need VMWare Fusion or Parallels installed to create a virtual machine. You load Windows XP with you key just like on a PC. You can then hot-swap Mac and PC OSs. Avoid Boot Camp. VMs work well for running heritage software.
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Even if it does you might not want it with Fuji raw files. Adobe sharpening doesn't handle Fuji files all that well (compared to other options) and can create some odd artifacts on XTRANs.

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PSE does smart sharpening. I have it and rarely use it, 99% of what I do is done in Lightroom. I have V5 and it's doing just fine with my Fujis.
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You're misinformed about how CC works. You don't connect to the internet each time you use the software and all your files remain local.
Exactly. I think you can be unconnected for 90 days before LR CC reverts to view-only mode.
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You can continue using CS2 for Windows XP on your new iMac for now if you like. You'll need VMWare Fusion or Parallels installed to create a virtual machine. You load Windows XP with you key just like on a PC. You can then hot-swap Mac and PC OSs. Avoid Boot Camp. VMs work well for running heritage software.
That's an interesting option - I'll check it out!

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PSE does smart sharpening. I have it and rarely use it, 99% of what I do is done in Lightroom. I have V5 and it's doing just fine with my Fujis.
Great, I'll definitely try PSE first. Thank you!
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I have CS4 on my iMacs but I do have Elements on a MacBook and it has all I need. Two important features of Photoshop for me are layers and blending. I use ACR to work on my RAW files and CS4 works for all of my digital cameras.

When I upgrade to a new iMac I'll go with Elements. Just me, I'm not a big fan of subscription. I want to do my own thing without having to connect to the internet each time I want to work and I want to keep my files in house on USB external hard drives and not on some server farm in Oklahoma.
You do not need to connect to internet process, only to upgrade.
Nothing forces you to keep files in the cloud.

Once a month you need to turn on CC for a handshake with adobe.
I pay yearly, not monthly.

I don`t like subscription, but probably spent that much anyway. If they get too expensive, I will use something else.
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