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Is there a 1:1 35mm accessory viewfinder like the 1:1 leica 5cm sbooi
Old 09-01-2010   #1
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Is there a 1:1 35mm accessory viewfinder like the 1:1 leica 5cm sbooi

Is there a 1:1 35mm accessory viewfinder like the 1:1 leica 5cm sbooi?

The 50mm floating brightlines are like magic!
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Old 09-01-2010   #2
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Yes, the so expensive SBLOO, often at $300
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Is that really 1:1, Vikko ?
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Is the SBOOO the brightline original Leica 35mm finder in metal?
I was offered $400 for it.
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Wow. I remember seeing a spoof, where someone mounted a Leica CL on top of some LTM Leica, to make a metered combo.
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Old 09-01-2010   #6
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The Topcor 35mm finder mentioned earlier is the only one. It is huuuge -- bigger than the Topcor 35mm lens that it goes with. It has 50mm and 35mm reflected frames, plus enough room around the 35 frame to serve as a quick-and-dirty 28mm finder. It's a trip to use, but it's very easy to misalign your eye and lose part of the brightline frame.

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Old 09-03-2010   #7
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I believe the classic Voigtlaender Kontur VF was available with 35mm brightline and, yes, I know the 50mm version is confusingly labelled. Anyway, Kontur is 1:1 by definition.
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I believe the classic Voigtlaender Kontur VF was available with 35mm brightline and, yes, I know the 50mm version is confusingly labelled. Anyway, Kontur is 1:1 by definition.
I've never seen a 35mm Kontur finder. It would have had to be rather large. I think they only built them with varying frame masks for normal lenses on 35mm film and 6x6.
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I've never seen a 35mm Kontur finder. It would have had to be rather large. I think they only built them with varying frame masks for normal lenses on 35mm film and 6x6.
Right, there's no such thing as 35mm Kontur finder.
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Old 09-22-2010   #10
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Okay,
I'll use the 1:1 finder of the nikon s3 2000.
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Old 02-08-2019   #11
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I have my eyes on a 35 3.5 Summaron and I am thinking of getting a SBLOO, but it just seems so ridiculous that the accessory finder costs almost as much or even as much as a Leica Screw Mount camera!
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big 35mm view, little price, no weight:

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/metro-case
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big 35mm view, little price, no weight:

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/metro-case
Please, confirm it is 1:1.
This thread is not just about any 35 ovf.
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Is that really 1:1, Vikko ?
Very close to 1:1, almost to the point to be irrelevant, unless there is something wrong with my right eye

Raid, yeah is the metal one.

LCSmith, Summaron and SBOOO looks good together

Agree with Kontur. Its a weird viewfinder but yeah 1:1 by nature (it doesn't have a magnifier lens).

Also, I think Voigtlander Turnit is quite close to 1:1 if I remember correctly.

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Holy guacamole, that's a big a$$ viewfinder on the screw mount.
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I also have a kind of phobia about optical view finders that attach to the hotshoe. I was shooting street in Philadelphia and my SBKOO slipped out and landed on the cold hard pavement of that dirty city, breaking the glass and rendering it unusable. Does the SBLOO stay in place?
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I also have a kind of phobia about optical view finders that attatch to the hotshoe. I was shooting street in Philadelphia and my SBKOO slipped out and landed on the cold hard pavement of that dirty city, breaking the glass and rendering it unusable. Does the SBLOO stay in place?
Cut a piece of paper or very thin felt to the same dimensions as your attached VF baseplate. Slide it in (along with the OVF) into the shoe. There should be a small amount of resistance when inserting the pair, but don't force it. You may need to increase/decrease thickness to get that "perfect" tight fit.

Result: OVF will not slide out of shoe.
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I also have a kind of phobia about optical view finders that attach to the hotshoe. I was shooting street in Philadelphia and my SBKOO slipped out and landed on the cold hard pavement of that dirty city, breaking the glass and rendering it unusable. Does the SBLOO stay in place?
Pretty much. At least mine has a tight fit, almost to the point to be annoying.

All of my Leica bright line viewfinders I have got a tight fit (28,35,50,90 and 135).

I like mine very much, but agree it is a steep price. I got mine as part of a deal, so not as expensive. Won't sell mine even for $300 That's how much I like it. Pretty useful on the Bessa T.

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Cut a piece of paper or very thin felt to the same dimensions as your attached VF baseplate. Slide it in (along with the OVF) into the shoe. There should be a small amount of resistance when inserting the pair, but don't force it. You may need to increase/decrease thickness to get that "perfect" tight fit.

Result: OVF will not slide out of shoe.
Good advice. Thank you.
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I also have a kind of phobia about optical view finders that attatch to the hotshoe. I was shooting street in Philadelphia and my SBKOO slipped out and landed on the cold hard pavement of that dirty city, breaking the glass and rendering it unusable. Does the SBLOO stay in place?
By the way I remember using it on a Zorky or Zorky 1, and I remember it had less of a tight fit that my Leica LTM's, M' and Bessa's, so it would be good to follow bayernfan advise, just to be safe
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The VF'er designed for the 43/1.9 Pentax-L has framelines for 43mm and 50mm, but using the entire window it makes for a great 35mm VF'er for that "all at once" view.

Since the Pentax-L is a screwmout, the offset/optimized is for a LTM screw mount and is not the best for a M-Body. I use my Pentax-L VF'er with my 35/1.8 Nikkor in LTM.

This VF'er also has a diopter adjustment with detents and the contrast enhancement of modern Zeiss VF'ers. Really as good as a modern Zeiss finder.

I wedge a small O-ring under the foot of my VF'er's to lock them into place.

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Is the Metrocase Shapeways Canon Owl 35mm finder kit a 1:1?
I can't think of a better 35mm finder for less than $50.


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Google '35mm viewfinder and old eyes' and you will find a description of my experiences with the Shapeways 35mm viewfinder, posted on this forum.
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Is the Metrocase Shapeways Canon Owl 35mm finder kit a 1:1?
I can't think of a better 35mm finder for less than $50.
David,

Does look pretty.

Price is awesome.

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According to this:

http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Kontur

There was a 35mm FOV Kontur viewfinder that was model 335/36. I have a Kontur that is marked model 335/36 Kontur and its FOV is 50mm, the same as another Kontur I have. There are slight variations of the parallax frame lines on the 24x36 Konturs based I think on the camera they were intended for and its cold shoe position.

This link has another model that does look like it may be for 35mm....

http://voigtlander.pagesperso-orange.../kontur35A.htm

as the frame lines take up much more of the front face of the Kontur.

One could likely make a 35mm version of the Kontur by etching new frame lines on the front black painted glass.

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The VF'er designed for the 43/1.9 Pentax-L has framelines for 43mm and 50mm, but using the entire window it makes for a great 35mm VF'er for that "all at once" view.

Since the Pentax-L is a screwmout, the offset/optimized is for a LTM screw mount and is not the best for a M-Body. I use my Pentax-L VF'er with my 35/1.8 Nikkor in LTM.

This VF'er also has a diopter adjustment with detents and the contrast enhancement of modern Zeiss VF'ers. Really as good as a modern Zeiss finder.

I wedge a small O-ring under the foot of my VF'er's to lock them into place.

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Interesting idea. Thanks, Cal.
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this seems good value

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ernst-Lei...NSBk:rk:1:pf:0
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But it seems more 50mm than 35mm.
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Is the Metrocase Shapeways Canon Owl 35mm finder kit a 1:1?
I can't think of a better 35mm finder for less than $50.

It’s not 1:1, actually 0.68x. But the view is plenty big for 35mm angle of view, and super light, only 1/2 ounce. Drop it and it will be undamaged...

0.68x is very close to the magnification of standard M viewfinders that have 35mm frames, so it’s suited well for cameras like Barnacks.

Personally I find the SBLOO to be great optically but it is large, heavy, and pricey, and I’m fairly sure it’s almost the same magnification, 0.70x.
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Well, the SBLOO is not heavy, but it is quite big.

If you want an 1:1 35mm finder, use a Nikon S3 camera.

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Another data point. I’ve got two Kontur finders, the 50mm and the 35mm field of view.
The 50mm is marked 24x36 35mm , I assume the 35mm is referring to format not lens focal length.

The finder with a 35mm angle of view is marked as being for 6x9cm.
It appears that the frame lines are just a little wider on the mask. This means a clever person could make their own using lithograph film or digital printing on clear or translucent material.

I really like the Kontur idea, but they’re rather large. For 35mm my vote goes to the CV metal finder. On a Barnack a big finder hangs over the edge of the shutter speed dial making it a bit harder to view.

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Another data point. I’ve got two Kontur finders, the 50mm and the 35mm field of view.
The 50mm is marked 24x36 35mm , I assume the 35mm is referring to format not lens focal length.

The finder with a 35mm angle of view is marked as being for 6x9cm.
It appears that the frame lines are just a little wider on the mask. This means a clever person could make their own using lithograph film or digital printing on clear or translucent material.

I really like the Kontur idea, but they’re rather large. For 35mm my vote goes to the CV metal finder. On a Barnack a big finder hangs over the edge of the shutter speed dial making it a bit harder to view.

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Wouldn't the 6x9 finder likely be for folders with the typical 105mm lens? That's about equivalent to a 40 on 135. Probably close enough though.
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Another inexpensive finder for 35mm is the Olympus VF-1, I had a hard time paying more for a Leica finder than I did for my Summaron.
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I found not long ago on eBay a Nikon 35mm brightline finder (late rangefinder era) for BP 35, but I guess I was extremely lucky.

Heavy used SBLOO's can be had relatively cheap on German eBay.

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