What 50’s to keep. What to sell?
Old 03-22-2019   #1
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What 50’s to keep. What to sell?

I have too many 50 mm M mount lens. I have a Leica Elmar M 50 2.8 that is compact. Zeiss Plannar 50 2.0, Zeiss Sonnar 50 1.5, Leica Summarit 50 2.5, & the 7 Artisins 50 1.1. Shot all but the Sonnar and the 7 Artisins Im hard pressed to see a differance on digital. I want to keep the Elmar as it is a small carry lens. The Sonnar renders old school also. Any opinions on what you all think would be great, and what you would keep. I shoot leica film and digital. Also have Fuji XH1 with adapter.
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Old 03-22-2019   #2
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I'd keep only ones you really notice difference in output, and/or provide some special feat. you appreciate. Perhaps Elmar for travel and Sonnar or Artisans for special situations?
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Old 03-22-2019   #3
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Off the top, I would offload the 7artisans and the summarit.

You are keeping the 2.8 Elmar.
The 1.5 Zeiss Sonnar is too unique to get rid of, so I would keep that as well if you can handle the focus shift.

I’ve not shot a planar, but I’ve always been impressed by it. I generally shoot people in one way or another, so the Sonnar was my pic.
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Old 03-22-2019   #4
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Only keeping one, keep the Zeiss Planar 50, because it’s the best all rounder.
Keeping two, keep the Zeiss Planar 50, and the Leica Elmar 50, as they are the most different, yet could both be considered all rounders after a fashion.
Keeping three, keep the Zeiss Planar 50, the Leica Elmar 50, and the 7 Artisans 50 f/1.1.
Those are all three very different renderings.
Keeping four, add the Zeiss Sonnar 50 f/1.5, but that’s too many lenses.
(Wait, there’s no such thing.)
If you have all those, the Summarit adds nothing.
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Old 03-22-2019   #5
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I'd sell all of them and get a Summilux. All you need is one 50mm anyway.
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Old 03-22-2019   #6
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1.5 and 2.8.
I'm keeping SU version of 1.5. Fine lens on film and digital M. Compact lens.
I had 2.8 M on film M. Second best lens I ever had on film M. First was Cron collapsible.
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Old 03-22-2019   #8
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I'd sell all of them and get a Summilux. All you need is one 50mm anyway.
I'd sell tham all and buy a 35mm.

But seriously, like most people have already said, I'd keep the 2.8/50 Elmar M and the 1.5/50 Sonnar.
Hard to go wrong with that pair.
IF I was to go just one (which I would), I'd follow @giganova's line, and get a Summilux (or a Nokton and a weekend away).
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Similar dilemma to the o/p kknox.

I’m rather pleased with the Voigtlander 40/1.2 and wondering if I would regret selling some 35 and 50mm lenses.

Last year I did sell a 7A 50/1.1, but parting with a 50 sonnar or Elmar would be more difficult.
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Old 03-22-2019   #10
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If you are set on keeping the Elmar-M 50, then the Summarit is kind of superfluous, no?

Apologies for going OT: May I ask if you have a preference for any one of these lenses for use with colour film? I am condidering getting a second 50 and am between Elmar, Summarit, and Planar - I think.
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Old 03-22-2019   #11
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i’ve got those. if i was to keep two it would be the planar and the 7A. The planar is a ‘perfect’ lens while the 7A is a super fast character lens.
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Old 03-23-2019   #12
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I‘d keep the Elmar and Sonnar. The Elmar is a compact allrounder, the Sonnar is a classic fast lens.
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Old 03-23-2019   #13
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You've already stated you're keeping the Elmar, so cross that off the list. I suggest you keep the Zeiss Sonnar, because it is considerably faster than the Elmar and renders in a very attractive and unique way.

I have three 50's including the 50 Summicron, Zeiss Sonnar and Voigtlander collapsible Heliar f3.5. I use the Voigtlander the least, but I still really like it because it renders in a uniquely 'organic' way which none of the others do.
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Of these, I prefer the Planar, Summarit, and the Elmar...but I prefer small lenses. I think the Sonnar has too much shift to rely on when using a RF.
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Old 03-23-2019   #15
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With the Sonnar 50/1.5: it's the challenge of calculating focus shift amounts for each aperture that keeps my brain active. Got to be a good thing...
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While I am keeping my 50mm M mount lenses, if you want to reduce the number of 50mm lenses, I would keep one modern lens and one older lens.
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Old 03-23-2019   #17
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Of these, I prefer the Planar, Summarit, and the Elmar...but I prefer small lenses. I think the Sonnar has too much shift to rely on when using a RF.
Planar as any CZ lens is not really small. It is actually large for 50/2 non ASPH lens.

This is why I prefer J-3 to CZ Sonnar. No crazy focus shifts.
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I love using the J3. The old Zeiss 5cm/1.5 is of course as good. Both lenses can be very sharp lenses.
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With the Sonnar 50/1.5: it's the challenge of calculating focus shift amounts for each aperture that keeps my brain active. Got to be a good thing...
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I`m the opposite, I prefer to concentrate on framing and content than when I have to lean in or lean back in order to compensate for focus shift. I`d hate to ruin a a good photo due to shift. That said, I feel magic comes from light so much more than lens characteristics. To each his own though... it`s a beautiful lens and when in focus, looks great.
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Planar as any CZ lens is not really small. It is actually large for 50/2 non ASPH lens.
True, but it`s just a little long. It was worth it to me because I liked it.
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True, but it`s just a little long. It was worth it to me because I liked it.
Anything with larger than 39mm for f2 RF lens is not a little.

Summarits 2.4. Enormous size for tiny amount of glass.
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Anything with larger than 39mm for f2 RF lens is not a little.

Summarits 2.4. Enormous size for tiny amount of glass.
Well, I don`t agree when it comes to 50mm lenses, but for 35mm, I agree. The 50mm Summarit 2.5 was tiny when I used it on my M9. Underrated lens IMO.
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It is fun to have as many 50mm and 35mm lenses as possible. One day you'll know the ones you'll like best.


You'll allways regret selling lenses.


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This is why I stopped selling RF lenses many years ago, Erik. Each lens is special to me.
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You'll allways regret selling lenses.

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I agree. I have regretted selling lenses more than selling cameras. Now I keep the lenses even if I don't have a suitable body.
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It is fun to have as many 50mm and 35mm lenses as possible. One day you'll know the ones you'll like best.


You'll allways regret selling lenses.


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It’s funny, but I’ve never regretted. I guess as long as I have something that feels right and allows for great photos, then no stress. I can always re-buy. Maybe you guys have exotic gear though.
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Maybe you guys have exotic gear though.

I have many old lenses of the same type, like Elmar 50mm f/3.5. Of the older ones, not two are the same. Not the same construction, not the same glass and not the same rendering.

I have two Summicron rigid 50mm lenses, no. 1567871 and no. 2142174. Totally different rendering.

I have two Summilux 35mm f/1.4 steel rim lenses, no. 2060691 and no. 1777220, also completely different.

I have two Summilux 50mm f/1.4 lenses, no. 1702441 and no. 1883472, not even nearly identical. So ...

Not as exotic as a Kinoptik Paris Apochromat I guess, but nice enough to keep even if they are only rarely used.


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Only keep one 50? Oh, dear.

Hard for me to imagine anything more dreary than going through life as a pragmatist.
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Old 03-23-2019   #29
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-The 50/1.1 7(f)Artisans lens second-hand isn't worth much after eBay fees and shipping. Give it to someone starting out as a gift. Or donate it to a photo school and get a tax write-off

-50 Elmar-M? hold on to it for a light travel/walkabout option.

-50 Zeiss Sonnar is a specialized optic, worthwhile to keep if you actually use it, otherwise let it go.

-The 50 Summarit and Plannar? I'd sell 'em both and get yourself a VM 1,2/50
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You can always learn something from Erik. My Summilux was stolen. Never replaced it. It was big and heavy on the Leica and somehow I knew a new one would not be the same. I went to a black Summicron and was very pleased. Took over twenty years of happy use to discover on digital it back focussed by 2cm. I now have also the C Sonnar. That one lens transformed my attitude to lenses and photography. I would never let it go. And I love the little collapsible Elmar-M. So like most others I'd sell the Planar and the Summarit. But I do keep interested in that Summarit. It is very short from lens flange to filter ring....
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kknox, what kind of photos do you shoot? what's the visual style of your photos? and what's your shooting style? how many lenses is too many?
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