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Old 06-29-2018   #1
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Which system combo for beach vacation?

I’ll preface this by saying I have an over abundance of gear and it’s almost embarrassing to ask this. First world problem for sure. Ive collected this gear on my journey to Leica film cameras. I likely would have gotten rid of all of my Canon gear (6d and a BUNCH of L glass), except my fiancé uses Canon, so it made no sense to sell it. Because I have so much Canon Glass, I grabbed an EOS 1v to shoot film with. Fantastic Camera. Normally I have no issue choosing which system to take with me. Pretty simple usually. Landscape and hiking, the 6d and 1v with 16-35 f4 and 70-200 f4. Heavy but those cameras take a pounding and the focal lengths are all covered for me.

I also acquired a couple M’s. An M2 and M6 with a decent lineup of glass. I then got a deal I couldn’t pass up in an Xpro 2 with M adaptor. I figured I wouldn’t like it, and would sell it...but I actually love it for carrying along with my M6. Plus, the jpeg output film simulations are really nice.

So back to the original question... I plan to carry both a film and digital that share the same mounts. Which system would you carry? I Appreciate any response.
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Old 06-29-2018   #2
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If you will be close to salt water and humidity, leave behind any expensive gear.
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I would get 99$ Go Pro camera or I already have this film camera:



This is what it gives:
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I had before Konica off-road which is also good for on the beach photos, but this simple camera is more joy and it has water profed case.
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Old 06-29-2018   #4
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Old 06-29-2018   #5
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I took a film point and shoot for a week sailing in the Caribbean... great experience, great photos, threw away the camera after the trip...
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Old 06-29-2018   #6
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A Nikonos III is my beach camera of choice. A bit quirky but a great lens. Whatever you choose, when it comes out of the air conditioning, let it warm up to beach temperature or your lens will fog up and results are not as good that way. Have Fun. Joe
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Take an Olympus TG-5 as your go-everywhere camera. Then you can choose whatever you like, film or digital, for your more serious shooting.
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I've got two cameras that fit this bill:


1. Minolta Weathermatic-A that my dad bought for a snorkeling vacation in Hawaii back in the mid-80's. I've always been a gadget head when it came to 110 cameras. He gave it to me when I went off to the Navy in 1986, where it took lots of underwater pictures of fetching swimming companions in Pensacola. Many good memories!
2. Minolta Weathermatic Dual 35 that I picked up a year or two ago at a thrift shop. It takes really good photos, and if I lose or damage it then I'm only out $5, because that's all I paid for it.


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Old 06-29-2018   #9
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Look into Canon AS-6 or Canon WP-1.
The Fujifilm underwater single-use camera (ISO 800, fixes aperture and shutter) is OK too.
My fav non-water resistant beach camera is the Olympus 35RC with Portra 400 at EI250.

System camera sounds like trouble with sand with lens changing.
At least with a cheapo you can leave in in your bag, go into the water, and not worry (much) about theft.
Use 36 exposure so you don’t have to change films on the beach.
Bring multiple loaded cameras if you need more than 36 shots in a session.



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Old 06-30-2018   #10
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Certainly, I would be extremely hesitant to change lenses on the beach.

I always wanted a Nikonos but when I got one, I found it VERY hard to hold steady when releasing the shutter, though it worked slightly better underwater.

Several manufacturers make "waterproof housings" consisting essentially of heavy plastic bags: the best are probably Dicapac (Google 'em).

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Great choice. I especially love the little yellow film holders.
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I own one system, Leica, both screw and M.

To the beach I take a Zorki 1!
I feel shame.
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Look into Canon AS-6 or Canon WP-1.
The Fujifilm underwater single-use camera (ISO 800, fixes aperture and shutter) is OK too.
My fav non-water resistant beach camera is the Olympus 35RC with Portra 400 at EI250.

System camera sounds like trouble with sand with lens changing.
At least with a cheapo you can leave in in your bag, go into the water, and not worry (much) about theft.
Use 36 exposure so you don’t have to change films on the beach.
Bring multiple loaded cameras if you need more than 36 shots in a session.



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I use my old reliable Pentax ME Super on the beach with usually a 50mm. I don’t change lenses on the beach. I carry it out into the water for action shots of the kids. Been doing this for years and haven’t dropped it in the bay as of yet.

This is my first camera I got in High school. Has s lot of sentimental value but could be easily replaced.
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Old 06-30-2018   #15
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Nikonos V. I like it so much I have two of them. The shutter release is delightfully soft and muffled, making it so easy to hand hold at low shutter speeds.

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http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2018/0...y-huss-hardan/

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Taken with Nikonos V, hand held in low light, scanned with Nikon D850:

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So back to the original question... I plan to carry both a film and digital that share the same mounts. Which system would you carry? I Appreciate any response.
For beach vacation, here are my choices listed in order of preference:
1. Aqua Pix 35mm plastic underwater camera (very low cost and expendable)
2. Nikonos III with 35 and 80mm underwater lenses (very water resistant)
3. Nikon N70 with Tamron 28-200mm lens (expendable lens and body)
4. Fuji X-Pro2 with 23mm f/2 prime and/or 16-55mm f/2.8 zoom (water resistant lenses and body)

However, if I wanted to shoot film and digital with the same mounts, my choices would be, in no order of preference:
1. Leica M6 and M10 with 21/35/90 M-mount lenses
2. Nikon film body and Nikon digital body with 24/35/85 F-mount lenses
3. Nikon film body and Fuji X-Pro2 with 24/50/105 F-mount lenses and F-mount to X-mount FotoDiox adapter

However, I would hesitate taking any of these high-priced film/digital combos on a beach vacation trip.


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I second the Canon WP-1. I used to buy disposable waterproof cameras until I realized I could get a used waterproof point and shoot for about the same price from eBay.
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On previous beach vacations, I've taken a Rollei 35 and/or Olympus XA: small, high quality cameras with fixed lenses. I would also suggest taking your XPro2. There are good suggestions above if you want something you can actually use in the water.

On a trip to Maui a few years ago, I took along a Canon IVSB2 with an Elmar 50 lens. It made a nice combo for photographs away from the beach itself.
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Fujifilm 120XP waterproof digital camera. Wash it off if it gets sandy by taking it into the pool. They say it's good to 30 feet and shock proof to 6 feet, but I haven't tested out these claims (yet).
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+1 for the Nikonos III. Pretty much any Nikonos that is working above water would be fine.

Decades ago I got my second lens, a Nikkor 24/2.8, spent my birthday money saved up for a couple of years on it and loved it. My photo teacher at school asked if he could barrow it for spring vacation. Being a stupid Sophmore, wanting to be nice to the new teacher (the teacher he replace I thought the world of, super nice guy who went to teach photography in a college several states west), I loaned it to him. He insisted that he would take good care of it.

It came back with sand in the focusing mechanism, has it to this day. It's part of the reason I am perhaps overly protective of equipment that I care about. I'm hard pressed to say that he didn't know that he did it, it's a lesson learned.

Don't bring the good stuff.

Perhaps a water-resistant digital camera (Fuji X-Something-Or-Other) and lens (X-Mount WR rated) would work well.

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Any water proof camera is only as good as the condition of its seals. If they are worn or old, the camera may flood. Even fresh seals can fail if they are not perfectly clean when the camera is closed. Perfectly clean = not even a single grain of sand.

There are a whole bunch of flooded/ruined Nikonos cameras on ebay.. Clue #1 is if they say 'untested'. Clue #2 is to check pics of the inside of the camera, any signs of corrosion means it is done. Clue #3 is if they don't post pics of the inside of the camera.

But, if you are only staying topside, not actually going into the water, then u should be ok.
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Consider a Fujifilm XP120, XP130, etc.
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A fellow stopped into my shop the other day, on the way to a beach weekend. With his film BP-MP & 1.4 Summilux slung over his shoulder.
My kind of guy.
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Beach cameras

Another version of the same Canon 35mm waterproof camera is model A-1.
Results are quite good for a point & shoot.

I also own a Nikonos V and recommend it highly.
The 35/2.5 lens works equally well above and under water.

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So the "weathersealed" eos 1v w 16-35 + 6d w one of my other sealed lenses wouldn't offer enough protection against sand? I don't plan to go into the water with it. Sand is more my concern. I also have a number of old Pentax cameras I've collected over the years and an Olympus sp I could use instead.... I have so much stuff, I'd rather not buy any more.
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The Konica Genbakantoku 28 WB a tough P&S camera with a 28mm f/3.5 lens. Designed for use by civil engineers etc. Sometimes called the Konica Off Road...


More info here:- http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Konica_Genba_Kantoku_28WB



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