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Old 07-10-2017   #1
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Leica M and the antithesis: tripods

A Leica and a tripod - it seems the legend is that a Leica is on the go, in the moment - nothing pre-planned, especially now that films and lenses can help you make photographs in near-darkness.

Does anyone of you actually use a tripod in your work, more than as a last resort?

If so, it would be nice to see setups and even better, photographs made with the help of a tripod.
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Old 07-10-2017   #2
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The only time that I've really been using a tripod with my Leica M's is doing self portraits while on the road. I just carry a small, lightweight Manfrotto tripod that can extend to a decent height (if I'm traveling by car), otherwise it's just a little tabletop tripod that I always have in my bag.

Sorry, digital M not film M. Don't hate me


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Actually, here is another shot that required a tripod. I'm on the service road that's adjacent to I-40, west of Albuquerque. It was a Sunday afternoon and I noticed that there were a bunch of motorcyclists on the road that day. I thought it would be great to get one of them riding down the highway, and I'd have to time it so that I could keep pace with them on the service road. I set my tripod up in the car, between the driver's seat and the inside of the driver's window, and pre-focused and framed my camera and had a relatively slow shutter speed (think it was 1/30th). I ended up following this fellow and just kept clicking without looking through the viewfinder. Think I ended up with about 15 shots, and this was the best one.


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Old 07-10-2017   #3
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I love that Vince... very cool photo.
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look at lewis baltz's photos. he shot on a tripod and used a 35mm pre-asph summilux.

i rarely use a tripod with a 35mm rangefinder, but i have the little arca swiss plate just in case.

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Old 07-10-2017   #5
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This thing about not using tripods with a Leica M is pure garbage. They put that tripod socket in there for a reason.

I use my M with a tripod all the time. I have to, as my favorite venue now is to take pictures in the woods. Exposure times of 1 second to 1/8 second are common. I use ISO 25 film for these. The beauty of this is that the Leica is so small and light that a tripod such as the Gitzo GT1541 is lots of support. I use the new Arca Swiss Monoball P0 (looks like a can on top of the tripod) with this. Great, stable setup. With my big Nikon and telephoto lenses in the past I needed the 3 series Gitzo tripod for stability.

Sorry, no pictures yet, as I've just sent some rolls off.
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I actually carry a small Leica table top tripod with me every time I go on a trip. I don't use it a whole lot, but it does come in handy when I need it.

I shot this photo while it was raining in Yangon, Myanmar with my 90mm Summicron lens.
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I shot this self portrait in a small rural hotel in Cambodia. I paid about 4 USD for this room and the man insisted that I park my motorcycle inside my room so nobody would steal it, I used a flash for this photos as well....Leica + tripod + flash....classic set up
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A Leica and a tripod - it seems the legend is that a Leica is on the go, in the moment - nothing pre-planned, especially now that films and lenses can help you make photographs in near-darkness.

Does anyone of you actually use a tripod in your work, more than as a last resort?
Wouldn't it depend on what you're taking pictures of?

Two nights ago was the full moon. I spent half the night doing four-minute exposures by moonlight. Indeed, I used a tripod.

I dunno; if I had an M, maybe I wouldn't need the tripod?
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Old 07-10-2017   #8
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Don't like tripods but.....sometimes, in dim light what ya gonna do. Especially if there is no convenient other support and you are down to 1/15 sec or less. Talking film of course, digital users will have a different experience. My go to tripod is a compact Slik.
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Old 07-10-2017   #9
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This thing about not using tripods with a Leica M is pure garbage. They put that tripod socket in there for a reason.

I use my M with a tripod all the time. ...
Same here. You will never get the most out of an ultrawide lens in particular without a rock-steady tripod.

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Old 07-10-2017   #10
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This thing about not using tripods with a Leica M is pure garbage. They put that tripod socket in there for a reason.

I use my M with a tripod all the time...
Exactly and I use it with other cameras...
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This!
And I've been shopping for an M2 without a self timer...

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The only time that I've really been using a tripod with my Leica M's is doing self portraits while on the road.


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This!
And I've been shopping for an M2 without a self timer...
Nothing that an Auto-Knips or similar device can't take care of ...
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Old 07-10-2017   #13
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Leica cameras, Leitz tripod. =)

This tripod extends to 6 feet, and I am 6'2", so it works well - no more hunching over a camera, something I loathe. Nothing worse than getting a stiff neck, IMO.

Aluminum, rugged, almost indestructible, about $100 used. They still make them. Nothing to dislike.

I carry it in my car, so weight is not a problem.

When traveling light, there's my Leitz monopod - Leica all the way!
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I used the Leitz Table Top and Large Ball Head from time to time. Minolta came out with a copy (one piece) that I used too. More with my SLRs than with my RFs. When I pressed my RF cameras into a support (e.g. light pole, wall) I was able to get acceptable steadiness buy putting a handkerchief between the camera and the object.

Used a tripod on a couple of closeup shots, again with my SLRs.

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Old 07-10-2017   #15
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Leitz table top and a Ross Ballhead makes fine companjon in the Bag and when I need it it have solved many long exposure promblems, not only from Tabletops but Carroofs and against Trees and Posts. Higly reccomendable for any Camera brand.
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Old 07-10-2017   #16
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The Pinhole cap with laser drilled equivalent of 28mm f156 lens on Leica and Leica on the tripod.


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If you have 90mm and longer lens, you could set it on shore with heavy waves at the safe distance. Pre-focus, pre-frameon the spot and wait for action. Tripod is best solution for it. Any action were it is predictable is easier with this method.
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Leitz table top and a Ross Ballhead makes fine companjon in the Bag and when I need it it have solved many long exposure promblems, not only from Tabletops but Carroofs and against Trees and Posts. Higly reccomendable for any Camera brand.
I would add in a small cable release too.

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The Pinhole cap with laser drilled equivalent of 28mm f156 lens on Leica and Leica on the tripod.


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Very beautiful.
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Old 07-10-2017   #19
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Eisenstaedt, framing the shot with a Leica on a tripod, was interrupted by a passerby. "What shutter speed?" "1/60s". "Gee, I could hand hold that and could manage without a tripod." "So could I, but I don't know what use this photo might be put to, and if it's a billboard or on the side of a truck it will be better that it is as sharp as possible.

I see this to be all the more critical with digital. Try stabilizing the camera on a tripod or ledge or against a window even with a 28 at 1/25s and the results are noticeably better. And I'm quite happy trying 1/2s hand- held when I have to.

What's worse is that a tiny Leica needs a sturdier tripod to keep it still. I also love my 40 year old Leitz tabletop tripod which is very sturdy.
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My well worn M4-2 I purchased used has the most patina on the tripod socket area. And it is never without the Leitz Tabletop along now that I've owned it for a while.
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I do, but not regularly. Generally if I'm shooting film on a tripod it will be the Autocord, or the LX if I'm using 35mm. But occasionally I do mount up the M2...


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Very beautiful.
Thank you. It was very cold wind to work exposure on tripod.
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I use a tabletop quite a bit (Manfrotto 209 legs with an FLM CB-18 head - you need the different screw in the legs to fit the head). It comes in handy for self-portraits and small group/family shots. One reason why I prefer the M4 over the M6, the self-timer is invaluable.

But I also use a standard size tripod a bit. I have the RRS plate for the film M bodies, but only put it on when I'm going to use the tripod.

An oldie, 30 sec, T-Max 100, CV 2.5/35M

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I just carry with me a grizzly bean bag. With my other cameras I don't mind using a tripod, but I would die seeing the bottom plate of my Leicas scratched by the tripod.
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I just carry with me a grizzly bean bag. With my other cameras I don't mind using a tripod, but I would die seeing the bottom plate of my Leicas scratched by the tripod.
That comes from people using the wrong tripod.
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That comes from people using the wrong tripod.
But it is well suited to people never using tripods.
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I use an Arca-Swiss style compatible tripod plate on the camera. I have ones by Kirk, Really Right Stuff, and Acratech. You then have up to 1cm of aluminum (hollowed out) protecting the baseplate from any possible damage.
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... it would be nice to see setups and even better, photographs made with the help of a tripod.
I used this table-top rig:



to shoot a series of sciencey stuff:

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I use a tabletop quite a bit (Manfrotto 209 legs with an FLM CB-18 head - you need the different screw in the legs to fit the head). It comes in handy for self-portraits and small group/family shots. One reason why I prefer the M4 over the M6, the self-timer is invaluable.

But I also use a standard size tripod a bit. I have the RRS plate for the film M bodies, but only put it on when I'm going to use the tripod.

An oldie, 30 sec, T-Max 100, CV 2.5/35M

That's a lovely photograph!

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I just carry with me a grizzly bean bag. With my other cameras I don't mind using a tripod, but I would die seeing the bottom plate of my Leicas scratched by the tripod.
Why would your Leica M be any different from any other camera in this regard?
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Another legend "a Leica is on the go, in the moment - nothing pre-planned" meets the Grim Reaper.

Or, from the Certs Twins' timeless, mid-century TV ad dialog:

"'Certs is a candy mint'.
'No, Certs is a breath mint'.
And then the voice-over tells them/us:
'Stop, you're both right!'"
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Does anyone of you actually use a tripod in your work, more than as a last resort?
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Obviously, my intial musings relates to the Leica M - in any other case, I am of the "as big as I can carry" school if I
have to schlepp a tripod around.

a) I need to get a smaller tripod - the tripod head I have (Manfrotto 3047 / 229 Pro head) weighs more than the camera.
I do know that from the sturdy and light and cheap combination you only get to choose two.

b) wide or ultrewide: I prefer straight horizons. I have only thought of say, a Super-Angulon, as something you handhold.

c) Iso 25 film in a Leica sounds interesting ... I need to see if I can do something with Pan F+ or Velvia in the future.

d) anticipation as Kostya mentions is a good thing too - I guess many older photographs (1930-40s)
are either staged or at least anticipated, given relatively slow films and many lenses (not all) being a bit slower.

Just love the photographs - good to see - keep'em coming!
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Not the antithesis for me.







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Why would your Leica M be any different from any other camera in this regard?
My other cameras, the ones I use with tripods, have scratched bottom plates. I always give a little more care to the cameras I love most and my M is one of them.
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Just leave this here.
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This poster image and book cover was taken on a tripod.
M9, 50mm.
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This little outfit does the trick a lot of the time...



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Panoramas best done on tripod.

Night scenes.

Any camera at ss < 1/1000 unless you are well braced or very careful.
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The Pinhole cap with laser drilled equivalent of 28mm f156 lens on Leica and Leica on the tripod.


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Kostya,
This is a lovely image!
When did you get a pinhole cap for M? Actually, I'm interested in where you got the pinhole cap for M. I remember seeing one on ebay a long while ago, but I wasn't interested then. This photo makes me think I should look into pinhole photography on the M camera.
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