Adox CHS 100 II film is back!!
Old 12-20-2018   #1
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Adox CHS 100 II film is back!!

Hi guys,

Christmas surprise by Adox: Their wonderful CHS 100 II film is back:
http://www.adox.de/Photo/chs-100-ii-...ailable-again/

It is already available in sheet film. 35mm and 120 are coming a bit later.
This film is coated on their modernised coating machine in Marly (former Ilford Imaging Switzerland, bought by Adox in 2015).
You can get it in all standard and non-standard sheet film sizes:
https://www.fotoimpex.com/films/sheet-films/
Even in all ULF formats up to 20x24" / 50x61cm!!
And that all over the year (not only once a year like the Ilford ULF programme). You make an order and then it will be made for you.

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Old 12-20-2018   #2
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That's good news, hope 120 and 35mm will follow soon.
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Magnificent news. So glad ADOX is continuing to thrive.
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All good to hear! Never used the film personally. Perhaps I should have a go...

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How good is this film developed in HC-110?
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How good is this film developed in HC-110?
Good question!
I have read somewhere that this film can be shot/processed as BW slide film?
4x5 BW slides are something I think I'd like to try making.
Going to need to do some reading up on this idea.
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How good is this film developed in HC-110?
The advantages of HC-110 are
- good speed / sensivity
- shelf life
- flexibility because of several possible dilutions.
Concerning sharpness and fineness of grain there are better developers.

I have used this film when the first run came to the market. And I liked it: Wonderful tonality, very sharp, very good resolution (sharpness and resolution better than FP4+, Kentmere 100 and Fomapan 100). It has two AHUs.
I've used Adox FX-39 as developer, and this combination worked very well.
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I have read somewhere that this film can be shot/processed as BW slide film?
Yes. At least with some processes. The Wehner reversal process delivered perfect results with this film: ISO 200/24°, excellent tonality, neutral grey tones, very sharp and brillant. I've had some films developed this way and the results have indeed been very impressive.
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How would you compare this to Adox Silvermax 100?
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How would you compare this to Adox Silvermax 100?
Both are very close:
- the spectral sensivity curves are extremely close
- sharpness and resolution are almost identical
- Silvermax has a bit finer grain
- CHS 100 II has a bit more effective speed in my experience
- both have a clear base
- but Silvermax is coated on TAC, and CHS 100 II is coated on PET
- CHS 100 II will be available in all formats; Silvermax is only available in 35mm (because it was one, single, unique production run).
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Yes. At least with some processes. The Wehner reversal process delivered perfect results with this film: ISO 200/24°, excellent tonality, neutral grey tones, very sharp and brillant. I've had some films developed this way and the results have indeed been very impressive.
Good to know, thank you!
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Then I see films for ten bucks a single roll it is a call to quit.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...0_ii_35mm.html

I need at least 40 rolls per year to call it as photography, not a hipsta status on forums with three rolls per year developed, scanned in the lab.
But if I'll spend 400 USD for film, it is quit call for my wife. Because after taxes and conversion to Canuckistanians it is something like 700 CAD.

So, it is simple choice at ten bucks per roll. Stay single or quit from film.
Are you, guys, single?
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Both are very close:
- the spectral sensivity curves are extremely close
- sharpness and resolution are almost identical
- Silvermax has a bit finer grain
- CHS 100 II has a bit more effective speed in my experience
- both have a clear base
- but Silvermax is coated on TAC, and CHS 100 II is coated on PET
- CHS 100 II will be available in all formats; Silvermax is only available in 35mm (because it was one, single, unique production run).
Thanks, I like the results on my first roll of Silvermax, so will keep this in mind.
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Then I see films for ten bucks a single roll it is a call to quit.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...0_ii_35mm.html

I need at least 40 rolls per year to call it as photography, not a hipsta status on forums with three rolls per year developed, scanned in the lab.
But if I'll spend 400 USD for film, it is quit call for my wife. Because after taxes and conversion to Canuckistanians it is something like 700 CAD.

So, it is simple choice at ten bucks per roll. Stay single or quit from film.
Are you, guys, single?
Try this:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...fessional.html

That's for two rolls.

$10 a roll is affordable to me if it is a film that I want.

I bought $800 worth of Neopan Acros a few months ago.
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Its in stock too. I am tempted... Been curious about that film.

I will try the 100 too even if its just a couple rolls.
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I bought several hundred sheets when it came out in 2.25"x3.25". Not many films made in that size!

2016-02-16 15.26.52 by Nokton48, on Flickr

NOW it is available I n a huge variety of sheet sizes, but special order at Impex
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Try this:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...fessional.html

That's for two rolls.

$10 a roll is affordable to me if it is a film that I want.

I bought $800 worth of Neopan Acros a few months ago.
You didn't answer my question. Could you afford 800$ of film and family?
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Then I see films for ten bucks a single roll it is a call to quit.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...0_ii_35mm.html

I need at least 40 rolls per year to call it as photography, not a hipsta status on forums with three rolls per year developed, scanned in the lab.
But if I'll spend 400 USD for film, it is quit call for my wife. Because after taxes and conversion to Canuckistanians it is something like 700 CAD.

So, it is simple choice at ten bucks per roll. Stay single or quit from film.
Are you, guys, single?
Thankfully there are options for expensive and less expensive films too.
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Hi guys,

Christmas surprise by Adox: Their wonderful CHS 100 II film is back:
http://www.adox.de/Photo/chs-100-ii-...ailable-again/

It is already available in sheet film. 35mm and 120 are coming a bit later.
This film is coated on their modernised coating machine in Marly (former Ilford Imaging Switzerland, bought by Adox in 2015).
You can get it in all standard and non-standard sheet film sizes:
https://www.fotoimpex.com/films/sheet-films/
Even in all ULF formats up to 20x24" / 50x61cm!!
And that all over the year (not only once a year like the Ilford ULF programme). You make an order and then it will be made for you.

Cheers, Jan
I'm really looking forward to trying Adox films and P30 in 120 size. 2019 is looking good!
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Thankfully there are options for expensive and less expensive films too.
I'm bottom feeder with bulk loads of Kentmere and ecn2,
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Old 12-21-2018   #21
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You didn't answer my question. Could you afford 800$ of film and family?
I have two kids, one about to enter college. My son's private school's tuition is more expensive than 80% of the USA's universities.

So yes, I can afford film and family. I can afford cameras too. In my camera bag are three Fujifilm rangefinders: A GF670, GF670W, and TX-1.
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So, it is simple choice at ten bucks per roll. Stay single or quit from film.
Are you, guys, single?
Ko.Fe. It is one thing to not be able to afford it because money is very tight. Then by all means, photography is luxury. However, it is another thing if you have the money, but your wife thinks your hobby is a waste of time so she thinks you shouldn`t spend the money. Then a new wife is needed. $700 a year is not a lot to spend for photography unless you really just can`t afford it. By the way, don`t you have a few leicas and lenses?
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Ko.Fe. It is one thing to not be able to afford it because money is very tight. Then by all means, photography is luxury. However, it is another thing if you have the money, but your wife thinks your hobby is a waste of time so she thinks you shouldn`t spend the money. Then a new wife is needed. $700 a year is not a lot to spend for photography unless you really just can`t afford it. By the way, don`t you have a few Leicas and lenses?
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Adox CHS 100 II film is back!!
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Adox CHS 100 II film is back!!

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Even in all ULF formats up to 20x24" / 50x61cm!!
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And that all over the year (not only once a year like the Ilford ULF programme). You make an order and then it will be made for you.

Cheers, Jan
Wow, who would need that gigantic negative 20x24
Btw, it is always good to have new film.


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The 4x5 stuff looks interesting. I'll probably buy a box once Freestyle has it in stock.

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Ko.Fe. It is one thing to not be able to afford it because money is very tight. Then by all means, photography is luxury. However, it is another thing if you have the money, but your wife thinks your hobby is a waste of time so she thinks you shouldn`t spend the money. Then a new wife is needed. $700 a year is not a lot to spend for photography unless you really just can`t afford it. By the way, don`t you have a few leicas and lenses?
Ko Fe can fend for himself but I think I'll keep my own counsel when it comes to my wife and family.
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Hi guys,

Christmas surprise by Adox: Their wonderful CHS 100 II film is back:
http://www.adox.de/Photo/chs-100-ii-...ailable-again/

It is already available in sheet film. 35mm and 120 are coming a bit later.
This film is coated on their modernised coating machine in Marly (former Ilford Imaging Switzerland, bought by Adox in 2015).
You can get it in all standard and non-standard sheet film sizes:
https://www.fotoimpex.com/films/sheet-films/
Even in all ULF formats up to 20x24" / 50x61cm!!
And that all over the year (not only once a year like the Ilford ULF programme). You make an order and then it will be made for you.

Cheers, Jan
After a look through the options it appears that us whole plate shooters are still out in the cold. At least Ilford keeps us in mind during their yearly runs.
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Ko Fe can fend for himself but I think I'll keep my own counsel when it comes to my wife and family.
I wasn’t giving him or you advice. I was just generalizing. If photography is important, you’ll figure out how to do it. A Leica is too expensive for some, a $10 roll of film is too expensive for others. I am of the opinion that your wife should support your interests and vise versa. Life is too short to be unhappy.
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Then I see films for ten bucks a single roll it is a call to quit.
None of the Adox films costs 10€ or 10 US$.
You are in the wrong thread for complaining......

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After a look through the options it appears that us whole plate shooters are still out in the cold. At least Ilford keeps us in mind during their yearly runs.
You will probably also can get whole plate sheet film from Adox: Just ask them. AFAIK their sheet film cutting machines are extremely flexible and can cut any format you want.

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I wasn’t giving him or you advice. I was just generalizing. If photography is important, you’ll figure out how to do it. A Leica is too expensive for some, a $10 roll of film is too expensive for others. I am of the opinion that your wife should support your interests and vise versa. Life is too short to be unhappy.
+1.
Very well said.

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For what it's worth , in B.C , Canada there's pretty well no film available that's less than $10 a roll ( and our taxes up that ~14% ) . But I'd sure like to try any of these slower Adox films , is Santa listening ? Peter
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I read here that a 36-exposure roll of Tri-X cost $1.15 in 1957. I don't know if that's true; I wasn't around then. But assuming it is true, that works out to $10.27 in 2018 dollars. B&H has Tri-X for $5.79. Not bad!
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Just in time as my stash of Fomapan 100 is getting low. Quite a bit more expensive than Foma though, actually equaling or exceeding FP4. Not complaining, just saying.
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Just in time as my stash of Fomapan 100 is getting low. Quite a bit more expensive than Foma though, actually equaling or exceeding FP4. Not complaining, just saying.
Due to my results, CHS 100 II surpasses Fomapan 100 in all parameters: Sharper, better resolution, finer grain, better characteristic curve, higher effective speed, better AHU, better QC.
In comparison to FP4+ CHS 100 II is sharper and higher resolving. But FP4+ has a bit higher speed.
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Due to my results, CHS 100 II surpasses Fomapan 100 in all parameters: Sharper, better resolution, finer grain, better characteristic curve, higher effective speed, better AHU, better QC.
In comparison to FP4+ CHS 100 II is sharper and higher resolving. But FP4+ has a bit higher speed.
All these characteristics have little meaning in LF.

You mentioned QC - You found Fomapan to be poor in that regard in LF? So far I found no defects with Foma films, one exception was Fomapan 200 in 120 showing micro scratches (a well documented flaw at the time, adressed and amended).
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All these characteristics have little meaning in LF.
Maybe not for you.
But for me. And I know from lots of other photographers that they do care for that, too.
And this film will be available in 35mm and 120, too, next year.

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You mentioned QC - You found Fomapan to be poor in that regard in LF? So far I found no defects with Foma films, one exception was Fomapan 200 in 120 showing micro scratches (a well documented flaw at the time, adressed and amended).
Yes, unfortunately I have had several different QC problems with Foma films in the past, like pinholes, black spots and converting problems (120).
Some friends of mine and members of our local photo club, too.
You get what you pay for: At such very low prices a manufacturer had to make some compromises in production.
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I need at least 40 rolls per year to call it as photography, not a hipsta status on forums with three rolls per year developed, scanned in the lab.
I shoot 3 films per year on average. No digital.
I still call it photography.
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The reason why I loaded up the truck ^^^ (see my photo above) is that PhotoImpex seems to charge 35 Euros for shipments to the USA as a start. Or at least that was my experience on my initial order go. So I ordered a lot of film, and the shipping was not much more than 35 Euros, and I got the film that I could not get anywhere else at the time. And the price per box was very reasonable, due to the quantities ordered.

6.5x9cm and 2.25"x3.25" sheet film is not easy to find. Choices are very limited.

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The reason why I loaded up the truck ^^^ (see my photo above) is that PhotoImpex seems to charge 35 Euros for shipments to the USA as a start. Or at least that was my experience on my initial order go. So I ordered a lot of film, and the shipping was not much more than 35 Euros, and I got the film that I could not get anywhere else at the time. And the price per box was very reasonable, due to the quantities ordered.

6.5x9cm and 2.25"x3.25" sheet film is not easy to find. Choices are very limited.

Merry Christmas!
I wonder how much BH or Freestyle would charge me to get some Ektar 4x5 over here? The film is much dearer in the EU (58 EUR vs 37 USD for a 10 sheet box!)
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