Old 09-02-2018   #1841
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The SCNOO should fit your Leica II if it was made after the introduction of the SCNOO without modification. There should be a slot at the bottom of the winding stem for the SCNOO drive shaft to bite into. It will only fit cameras up to and including the IIIb though, as the IIIc's body is slightly bigger.
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Old 09-03-2018   #1842
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There is a SCNOO-C version too, but I believe it is rather rare (and thus expensive).
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Old 09-05-2018   #1843
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Not my camera, but I wonder why this hole was made in the bottomplate of this early Leica I.

Does anybody know?

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Old 09-05-2018   #1844
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I suspect it was for removed flash sync port, are there any marks inside the camera? If not I suspect baseplate might come from a different camera
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Old 09-05-2018   #1845
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Thank you MrRzepa! I think this is the answer. I only saw the camera online, so I could not take a look inside.

Flash with an early Leica I. Crazy idea. But people are crazy, I know.

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Old 09-05-2018   #1846
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No connection to the seller of course but I`ve never heard of this model before .

https://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/scre...iiid-body.html
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Old 09-05-2018   #1847
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And it is a stepper!

Does this open the possibility, for no reason, of a IIIe model?

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No connection to the seller of course but I`ve never heard of this model before .

https://www.reddotcameras.co.uk/scre...iiid-body.html
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Old 09-05-2018   #1848
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A IIId is a wartime IIIc with self release. To see if the self release is original you have to count the "circles" in the tip of the self release lever. I don't know ho much circles are needed for a genuine IIId. Quite a lot I guess.

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Old 09-12-2018   #1849
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Many years ago a got a prewar Cooke and Perkins shade for the Elmar 50mm f/3.5 that offers control of the f/stop of the lens.

This week I've found the lens cap that belongs to it! This cap slips into this shade, right from the front. Exact fit.

When I look at the lens cap very closely, I see traces of wear on the outside, not on the inside. That gives me the certainty that the lens cap belongs to the Cooke and Perkins lens hood. Unbelievable. The Cooke and Perkins lens hood is in itself quite rare.

Finally back together again! After so many years.

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Old 09-12-2018   #1850
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Erik, A good theory but why would Leitz make a cap to fit a competitor's product? I wonder if it isn't for binoculars or a focussing mount or something weird and technical.

My C&P hood is black (or mostly black!). One of their most desirable products is the 50mm focussing mount for Contax Sonnars on Leica, had one years ago but passed it to a friend.
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Old 09-12-2018   #1851
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The cap is not made by Leitz, but by C&P themselves. Maybe during the war. No copyright problems in those years. Did you ever see a rubber lens cap by Leitz? Or a 40mm cap? I should have know it after 40 years of LeicaÔsm. And I found the cap on eBay in England.

Leitz never wrote "Leica" on lens caps that were not for a Leica, such as caps for lenses for projectors, enlargers or binoculars, always only "Leitz".

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Old 09-12-2018   #1852
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Erik, I stand corrected!

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(Now where is my OSBLO... no one will have copied that!)
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Old 09-12-2018   #1853
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So far I haven’t found the aperture control on my Elmar to be nearly as troublesome as some people make it out to be.. maybe my shooting style doesn’t necessitate quick and constant aperture change so I haven’t noticed. Either way I bet that hood would still be a joy in use.
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Old 09-13-2018   #1854
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There's more bafflement with the FHKOO; people can't imagine why either...


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Many years ago a got a prewar Cooke and Perkins shade for the Elmar 50mm f/3.5 that offers control of the f/stop of the lens.

This week I've found the lens cap that belongs to it! This cap slips into this shade, right from the front. Exact fit.

When I look at the lens cap very closely, I see traces of wear on the outside, not on the inside. That gives me the certainty that the lens cap belongs to the Cooke and Perkins lens hood. Unbelievable. The Cooke and Perkins lens hood is in itself quite rare.

Finally back together again! After so many years.

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Hello Erik,
There are 2 versions of this hood by C&P.
One version is for the older aperture scale of 3.5, 4.5, 6.3, 9, 12.5, 18.
the other is for the current 3.5, 4, 5.6, 8, 11, 16, 22. aperture scale.
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There's more bafflement with the FHKOO; people can't imagine why either...


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Me neither when you realise that the the later FCKOO was so much better. Question is, did it come in black?
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Old 09-13-2018   #1857
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There's more bafflement with the FHKOO;
You mean FOOKH I guess. The older FOOKH (FLQOO is then their name) are long, the later ones short

Personally I prefer a FLQOO to a C&P. There is also the VALAU, a kind of C&P by Leitz themselves, but shorter. Quite nice in use. C&P is just a little too big.

Michael: FCKOO is a single frame film holder.

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Old 09-13-2018   #1858
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There are 2 versions of this hood by C&P.
One version is for the older aperture scale of 3.5, 4.5, 6.3, 9, 12.5, 18. The other is for the current 3.5, 4, 5.6, 8, 11, 16, 22. aperture scale.
Thank you, JB-Dancer!

I have the older version, but in shiny gray finish, polished metal in fact, not black. Looks nice on my grey wartime IIIc.

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Old 09-13-2018   #1859
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You mean FOOKH I guess. The older FOOKH (FLQOO is then their name) are long, the later ones short

Michael: FCKOO is a single frame film holder.

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Erik, I know, I thought David was employing some Monty Pythonese cynicsm/humour!

I think FHKOO is the single frame holder for the earlier cameras and FCKOO is the one for the later ltms.

Back to hoods, all said and done little can improve on FISON!
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Old 09-13-2018   #1860
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O yes, I love the FISON, above all the black ones. Beside the ones with a clamp screw I like the ones that one simply has to click on the lens.

I certainly do not like the ones with a rectangular front opening. I got tired from replacing them all the time after refocusing.

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Old 09-13-2018   #1861
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...and I do not like the heavy ones with aperture rings (can't remember codes) which I always understood to be designed for use in the darkroom, in the days when your taking lens became you enlarging lens.

Then there is that ring you put inside a hood or filter (again can't remember code) that connects with the aperture tab, seems almost as much effort as setting it normally.

What's the matter with me? I was on a roll with code names this morning but this afternoon they won't come to mind. looking in a book is cheating!
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Old 09-13-2018   #1862
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...and I do not like the heavy ones with aperture rings (can't remember codes) which I always understood to be designed for use in the darkroom, in the days when your taking lens became you enlarging lens.
VALAU? Not very heavy, though.

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Old 09-13-2018   #1863
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VALOO was the one I was thinking of, from memory it is combined with a hood. I haven't had VALAU, does it have a hood or is it just a ring?

Can you remind me of the name of the aperture ring that sits inside a clamped on filter?
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Old 09-14-2018   #1864
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VALOO is a black hood/ring (probably the successor of the VALAU) to regulate the diaphragm of the Elmar when this is used as an enlarging lens. This is a bit too heavy to be used as a lenshood-f/stop ring for ordinary photography. Falls off all the time.

VALAU is indeed a ring, but with a certain dept, so it can be used as a lens hood. It includes a ring that is to be coupled to the f-stop ring of the lens, like the C&P hood. Quite handy, but I prefer an ordinary FISON. A black one please.

The aperture ring that sits into a clamped on filter is the VOOLA. I don't have one of those I think. I never use filters.

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I suppose one could put VOOLA inside a black FISON. The problem is that one would have to either loosen the hood clamping ring or twist the hood on the lens (if it is a hood without clamp) to adjust the aperture.

Surely it is is easier just to stick one's finger inside the hood?!
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Yes, that is why I prefer the FISON. I just stick my finger in the hood and take care not touch the glass. A good thing is that I don't drink alcoholic beverages. I have no trembling hands.


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Thanks Erik, this stuff glows with vintage charm!




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Yes, and definitly British indeed. Thank you!


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A good thing is that I don't drink alcoholic beverages. I have no trembling hands.


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I suspect you enjoy using as low a shutter speed as possible?

Meant to ask for ages, are you a fan of the American artist Edward Hopper? Your pictures, like many of his, leave me wondering about the relationships between the people pictured. Nothing is ever said and if anything is ever hinted at it is in the mind of the viewer.
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Old 09-14-2018   #1870
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No, I don't like Hopper that much. He is a book cover painter. In painting I like Ingres, RaphaŽl, Piero della Francesca and some others. In photography Cartier-Bresson, Robert Frank ("The Amercans" period), Koudelka and Junku Nishimura.

I never think about the relationships of the people on my photographs. It is difficult enough to get everything sharp and well composed.

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Ah, Federico de Montefeltro's nose is something to be admired!
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Old 09-14-2018   #1872
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Yes, and do you know the Flagellation of Christ in Urbino? That is a Cartier-Bresson in color. Here in b+w.

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I do, you have re-awakened an old fascination for me. At school (long time ago) this painting was used as an example to teach us about vanishing points and perspective.

You can come back to these images time and time again.
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The scourging of Christ. The composition is very photographic. The most important person, Christ, is in the background. It is as if the photographer was not allowed to come closer.

It is an allegory of the fall of Constantinople. The pillar to which Christ is bound is exactly like Cemberlitas in Istanbul, the gigantic column where once stood a statue of Emperor Constantine. Pontius Pilate is a clear portrait of the then Turkish sultan. Christianity in Constantinople was defeated. It is also true with the dating of the painting, around 1455.

It seems that the people on the right have nothing to do with the scene in the back, just as often happens on a photograph.

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It seems that the people on the right have nothing to do with the scene in the back, just as often happens on a photograph.

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I used to have a cropped print of their feet on my wall but never knew who they were.
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They are unindentfied, but they are surely portraits.


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Great stuff but reluctantly I suppose we had better get back on topic. Let us talk about the texture of paint...or the lack of it. The word 'patina' is banned.

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I have avoided the black-painted Leica. My nature demands that I smooth down the remaining paint and brush on new enamel. I know it would take the value down, but I must do it.
So I won't buy one.
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I have avoided the black-painted Leica. My nature demands that I smooth down the remaining paint and brush on new enamel. I know it would take the value down, but I must do it.
So I won't buy one.
but David, would you re-finish a vintage '30s Martin guitar?
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Black cameras are nice, they do not attract much attention. A chrome camera can be seen from miles away.

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