Luckyfilm SHD from China is back
Old 06-05-2017   #1
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Luckyfilm SHD from China is back

https://www.instagram.com/p/BU8Y9dsDRvT/

I remember this film being discontinued last year I think. But I never used much of it.

Looks like some group of chinese decided to revive manufacturing of the film.

They're releasing it in 120 too by the end of the year according to their posts on instagram.
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Old 06-05-2017   #2
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I remember this film being discontinued last year I think. But I never used much of it.

Looks like some group of chinese decided to revive manufacturing of the film.

They're releasing it in 120 too by the end of the year according to their posts on instagram.
Great news, I wonder if it will be bargain priced like it was half a decade ago?

That might be asking too much, as beggars cannot be choosers in today's "speciality" market.
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About the price. I messaged them and they quoted me $65 for 10 rolls. They said they could ship right away. I thought it was too much so I held off.

I heard from someone else that srp would be HKD30 or $3 per roll. (source is a distributor)

I hope it will be cheap like before. This is an improved version from what I read.
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I have used the ERA film from China also discontinued and liked it. It reminded me of Plus X and for roughly $2 some 10 years ago it was a bargain. SHD on the other hand was more of a novelty film - slow, grainy, "mushy". There are uses for this look but I would not pay more than $1 a roll and would only do so because I can reuse the canister to roll some canned film! Also I have had horrible experience with Chinese made 120 with that typical backing paper problem.
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I have used the ERA film from China also discontinued and liked it. It reminded me of Plus X and for roughly $2 some 10 years ago it was a bargain. SHD on the other hand was more of a novelty film - slow, grainy, "mushy". There are uses for this look but I would not pay more than $1 a roll and would only do so because I can reuse the canister to roll some canned film! Also I have had horrible experience with Chinese made 120 with that typical backing paper problem.
That's shanghai 120 film. Notorious reputation on the interwebs

35mm lucky shd before didnt have an anti halation layer. Makes for nice old school look.

Let's see if these guys get to improve it.
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That's shanghai 120 film. Notorious reputation on the interwebs

35mm lucky shd before didnt have an anti halation layer. Makes for nice old school look.

Let's see if these guys get to improve it.
I have used both Shanghai 120 and SHD 120 and both had backing paper problems. Last time I shot SHD 120 was with a Rollei in HCMC, Vietnam. I only shot two rolls of SHD the rest in TX but the SHD turned out to be my best rolls! Bad luck would have it they were unusable or "had too much character" with the backing paper numbers and dots super imposed on to the image. I also had backing paper trouble with Fomapan and Rollei films so for 120 it is only Kodak and Ilford for me.
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Teh stuff has technically always been available, the problem was no one was distributing outside of China, so you could buy it relatively cheap, but shipping would kill the deal.
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Teh stuff has technically always been available, the problem was no one was distributing outside of China, so you could buy it relatively cheap, but shipping would kill the deal.
I live in Hong Kong so these films are cheap cheap cheap for us. I think you can order them from the US via Taobao with low shipping. I am a 100% film shooter and will try any film for the experience. Chinese films are fine especially the Shanghai stuff in sheets. I have shot 4x5 Shanghai film and they are excellent. These days I'll stick with TMY. My time is more valuable than the whatever $30 I save.
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I had shoot a bit over 30 rolls of shanghai 120 when it was still made, lucky me I din't get the backing paper problem, and to be honest the tonality and smoothness are just great for me. I do hope that bring that back, with the same pricing ofcourse

$65 for 10 rolls of the "new" Lucky SHD is asking waaaaay too much, with price like that its better to support Kodak/Ilford and they have really good quality control.
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jacksamuelzYou gonna make 120? I miss Shanghai GP3.
[email protected] 120 will come in September!! Let's wait for it!!!
This is great news! If GP3 didn't have all these problems with the backing paper, it would had been of the greatest films ever. I cannot wait trying it again. Fingers crossed till then.
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I really do not understand when oldschool was so old that an anti halo back was not a reality.

the vintage look is so vintage that never existed in the past, a nostalgy based in a exacerbated or false memory, itīs just a baroqueism
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I really do not understand when oldschool was so old that an anti halo back was not a reality.

the vintage look is so vintage that never existed in the past, a nostalgy based in a exacerbated or false memory, itīs just a baroqueism
Sorry I couldn't describe it exactly. The lack of anti halo did cause a lot more glow or flare.
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itīs just like the belief that bourgeois people in the XIX c. were stiff and serious...

glow and flare are much more a todayīs trend that they were in the past...

in the wet collodion era photographers painted black the back of their glasses...
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I really do not understand when oldschool was so old that an anti halo back was not a reality.

the vintage look is so vintage that never existed in the past, a nostalgy based in a exacerbated or false memory, itīs just a baroqueism
If you're trying to suggest that anti-halation film wasn't a thing in the past, I have no idea where you'd get that idea. Start collecting old film, and you'll come across boxes where the anti-halation properties are advertised on the box. Why? Because not all film had an anti-halation layer - it wasn't something taken for granted, thus its existence needed to be advertised. Halation wasn't a serious problem before miniature formats, as the halo effect is not very visible on a large negative that is contact printed. On 35mm or subminiature formats the halo becomes much more pronounced, and thus the anti-halation layer becomes something worth having and advertising.
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I really do not understand when oldschool was so old that an anti halo back was not a reality.

the vintage look is so vintage that never existed in the past, a nostalgy based in a exacerbated or false memory, itīs just a baroqueism
I don't thing that film lovers are nostalgic, or trying to bring back something even falsely from the past.
Most film aficionados look into what that silver on the black and white film delivers. Have you ever tried the long gone Verichrome for example? Can you tell how a silver rich bw differs to a fine digital bw?
One might say, you scan that film and bring it down to the fields of a digital bw, but this is true for those that just scan and do not wet print. Try it yourself and then you will understand what makes someone mad about film.
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i mainly take pictures in film and enlarge, and the anti halation backing is not a uncommon thing right from the turn of the century.

Vintage looks just seem to me a very instagram thing
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Indeed, it is something that has been abused so much that frequently becomes just repeating and somewhat irritating.
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difference in sameness...
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Teh stuff has technically always been available, the problem was no one was distributing outside of China, so you could buy it relatively cheap, but shipping would kill the deal.
I thought it was a case that people were relabeling old stock as new. I'm fairly sure fresh stock did dry up for at least a year or two.
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I did some searching but I can't find it anywhere on Chinese networks about this "comeback."

It is however on sale on eBay now
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UK-3-Rolls-L...0AAOSwYXVYyCmC

But it smells fishy. Maybe it's just someone repackaging old stock to trick some Laowai.
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The last time I ordered (couple of years ago), my rolls came in reused cartridges (as in Fuji, new boxes though). Don't know if it came from the factory that way or somebody respooled it.
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I remember this film being discontinued last year I think. But I never used much of it.

Looks like some group of chinese decided to revive manufacturing of the film.

They're releasing it in 120 too by the end of the year according to their posts on instagram.
Honestly, I have doubts.
Because at Photokina last year I have talked to the Lucky managers at their booth. And they told me that they stopped film production completely! I guess some leftover stock from the last production is sold here.
That business policy is quite common today, e.g. used by companies like Maco/Rollei Film, JCH, Lomography etc.
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