Cheap GAS.
Old 02-22-2017   #1
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Cheap GAS.

Hi All, I think I am suffering an attack of GAS on the cheap. I have spent far too much time recently looking at Fleabay for Point and Shoot bargains. Nothing like waiting for the postman to arrive when you have snagged another cheap 80s or 90s P&S marvel. Looking mainly for fixed lens models, but not Mju ii as I have already got good examples of this model and also Mju I. Trying to find the elusive ones that have not yet reached cult status.
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Old 02-22-2017   #2
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You have lots of good black and white photographs on your flickr site.

I have pretty well have rid myself of gas. I used to get gas attacks after a couple glasses of wine!
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Old 02-22-2017   #3
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I bought a Nikon 35AF (already a classic) that came with a Canon Sure Shot Supreme that has a 38mm f2.8 lens. I gave my 8 year old son the Canon and it is a nice camera. Fits the hand comfortably very comfortably and you can open and close the spring loaded lens cover with your middle finger. The viewfinder is pretty decent (much better than the Mju II) and it follows the 35AF in not advancing the film until you let up on the shutter release.

Main downside is the tiny recessed button on the bottom to shut off the flash. You have to hold that in while taking the shot to disable the flash if the camera had decided you needed it. A few shots from my son.

Shawn

EDIT: Just checked the big auction site and there is a Buy It Now for $5.89 for one of these and that includes the fitted leather case.
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Old 02-22-2017   #4
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Konica Big Minis are great. I love those.
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Old 02-22-2017   #5
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Yashica T3, maybe? I was given one by a neighbor -- 35/2.8 Tessar (faster than the T4's). Downside is a 2CR5 battery. Larger than the T4, but not a beast.

Konica C35? Not a point and shoot, though, since it's got a rangefinder.

Chinon Bellami? Again, maybe a little earlier than you're targeting, since it's not AF but rather zone focus.

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You have lots of good black and white photographs on your flickr site.

I have pretty well have rid myself of gas. I used to get gas attacks after a couple glasses of wine!
Thanks Bill. I only shoot black and white. The compact cameras have made a fair contribution to my flickr output. There are many of them that are very capable cameras. Also very little shutter lag on this model. Much less than Mju ii.
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I bought a Nikon 35AF (already a classic) that came with a Canon Sure Shot Supreme that has a 38mm f2.8 lens. I gave my 8 year old son the Canon and it is a nice camera. Fits the hand comfortably very comfortably and you can open and close the spring loaded lens cover with your middle finger. The viewfinder is pretty decent (much better than the Mju II) and it follows the 35AF in not advancing the film until you let up on the shutter release.

Main downside is the tiny recessed button on the bottom to shut off the flash. You have to hold that in while taking the shot to disable the flash if the camera had decided you needed it. A few shots from my son.

Shawn

EDIT: Just checked the big auction site and there is a Buy It Now for $5.89 for one of these and that includes the fitted leather case.
Hi Shawn. The Sureshot Supreme is a good camera. Nice lens with a great IQ and very cheap right now. Also though not as compact as some, it feels positively comfortable in the hand.
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Are there any point and shoots with a faster than 2.8 lens?
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Are there any point and shoots with a faster than 2.8 lens?
Canon Af35ML. F1.9 lens.
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Old 02-22-2017   #10
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There is plenty of cameras that go unnoticed, I recently bought a nice Pentax PC35AF for a price of 9" Margarita pizza. It has a fantastic 35mm 2.8 lens and runs of AA batteries.
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Are there any point and shoots with a faster than 2.8 lens?
Leica Minilux or CM both with 40mm f/2.4.

Fuji Natura S 24mm f/1.9
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Old 02-22-2017   #12
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Are there any point and shoots with a faster than 2.8 lens?
The only other one I can think of that hasn't been mentioned already is the original Fuji Klasse with a 38mm f/2.6. It was also sold as the Rollei AFM35.
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Thanks all!
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Keep in mind the Fuji Natura S 24mm 1.9 is very expensive. Very.
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I always wanted to try a Canon MC. Autofocus, 2.8 lens, sliding cover. Looks very "80's view of the future". I have a knackered copy that I don't know where to start with fixing...
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I just took my first shots last night with a Konica Genba Kantoku construction site camera that I got for $15. I only hope that the photos will be significantly crappier than what I get with my $1,500 Konica RF/ Zeiss Planar 50mm combo.
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I just took my first shots last night with a Konica Genba Kantoku construction site camera that I got for $15. I only hope that the photos will be significantly crappier than what I get with my $1,500 Konica RF/ Zeiss Planar 50mm combo.
Here are pictures from this camera. It is also known as Konica Off-Road.

http://www.rangefinderforum.com/foru...ad.php?t=85496

I have it for sale now and wouldn't mind to get IIa.
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Old 02-23-2017   #18
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After several years of keeping it at bay, I also have a GAS issue again. I just picked up a cheap screw mount fujica camera from evil bay that I'm hoping is in good condition. I love your B&W photos, do you develop them yourself?
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After several years of keeping it at bay, I also have a GAS issue again. I just picked up a cheap screw mount fujica camera from evil bay that I'm hoping is in good condition. I love your B&W photos, do you develop them yourself?
Hi Rey, thankyou and yes I develop my own. Hope you have some luck with the Fujica.
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Thanks John,

I've been wanting to start B&W development for years, I really need to just start doing it and stop procrastinating!
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Fuji Natura S 24mm f/1.9
f2 wide angle in such a small package...

Last year I got a Canon Prima AS1 for 1 on Ebay (+10 shipping). Only ran a couple rolls when I forgot to rinse the saltwater after a dip and it died, oozing burnt smell. After leaving it alone 2 months, it seemed to work again and I could squeeze 12 exposures in the water until it died again.

eBay kind of sucks for cheap items because there's always the shipping that can be much higher, then it isn't as bargainy as some second hand thrift shops and the occasional local classified. Not in US, UK or Japan where these cameras seem plenty.

My weak point is Underwater. My hometown is along the Coast, beach, warm... GAS says Nikonos, but I don't want to drop 100 into one.
There's the Nikon AW AF, Minolta Weathermatic, Fuji HD-r/HD-m, etc. But on the bay they seem to be rare and too expensive. Then there are reports of those being cheap, for 1000 Yen in some Tokyo store, argh!

Thinking that I must feed film to those stops the GAS

Not P&S but Midrange AF SLRs are quite some bang for the buck.
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Old 02-24-2017   #22
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I went to a local thrift shop today and found a Canon Sure Shot Supreme with leather case for $5. It has a 38mm f2.8 lens. I'm looking forward to running some film through it.
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Good deal! Considering the film and battery are going to cost more than the camera you will be very impressed with its output.

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Good deal! Considering the film and battery are going to cost more than the camera you will be very impressed with its output.

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Have you used this particular model before?
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Yes, I posted about it and some shots from it in this thread.

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Konica Big Minis are great. I love those.
I bought one for my daughter when she went to college, but of course, she destroyed it. It was a great camera, just not tough enough to have 7-UP spilled all over it.

I've had many of these cameras over the years, and my favorite you already have; the Olympus Stylus Infinity (mju 1). Be sure and use the fill flash feature, it is excellent on this camera, and puts a snap into B&W images on overcast days. And I believe you have a few of those around Port Isaac.

Not an overcast day but a fill situation.

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Yes, I posted about it and some shots from it in this thread.

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Geez I guess I read it a few days ago and forgot it.

Mine seems dead. I loaded film and it advanced but the shutter doesn't seem to fire. Oh well at least I didn't lose much.
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That is too bad. Try holding in the flash button and seeing if it will shoot then? I think it doesn't shoot if it is trying to charge the flash.

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Geez I guess I read it a few days ago and forgot it.

Mine seems dead. I loaded film and it advanced but the shutter doesn't seem to fire. Oh well at least I didn't lose much.
Hi, the shutter button can get unresponsive on these. I have one that suffered from this but it came back to life after exercising the button. I like the Sureshot Supreme a lot for its lens. It is the sort of camera I had in mind with the opening post. Shame it takes lithium battery, but these are long lived, espescially if you don't use flash. Also it has focus lock but not exposure lock, unlike the Stylus Infinity.
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Not bad for a 99p Canon Sureshot Supreme

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