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Old 06-22-2016   #41
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So...do the lenses have leaf shutters? Is the LCD articulated? Will there be tilt/shift lenses? Is it weathersealed?
+1. I'll also be looking for answers to the above questions.
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Old 06-22-2016   #42
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+1. I'll also be looking for answers to the above questions.
Well, "A completely new family of dedicated autofocus lenses has been developed to support optical quality and portability, offering a wide range of shutter speeds and full flash synchronisation up to 1/2000th second." does mean that at least the native lenses are leaf shutter. It might still be dual shutter - but given the small size and low weight, I doubt it.
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Just watching the livestream from Stockholm, the camera looks about the same size as the XP1, lenses are also small. The Q&A session also mentions the camera is produced and designed entirely by Hasselblad in Sweden (I would assume the components aren't though) so seems less likley Fuji will be rolling out a rebadged version in a few months for a couple of thousand less. Price is 7,900 Eur in Europe.

IMO, seriously impressive. I can't justify the price for me personally, but for anyone thinking about digital MF or up market FF DSLRs this would be pretty competitive so long as the performance is up to date. I hope this is the future for mirrorless.
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I'm watching it now too, the thing looks like it's barely larger than the Sony A7. This is awesome, this is a great thing for Hasselblad.
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Old 06-22-2016   #45
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As for the design, the front looks like a flattened 500c/m, which doesn't jive with the 4:3 sensor. It's not an "honest" design, just a lame version of retro.
Every 645 SLR I can think of has an outwardly square, cube-shaped mirror box. The square has more to do with the lens mount than the sensor aspect ratio, you can see in the images the lens mount fits tightly.

It references the 500 series with the metal accents but otherwise it's basically a small digital MF back with a grip attached. IMO it seems an excellent design.
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Old 06-22-2016   #46
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50MP CMOS sensor
Weight: 725 gr.
Touchscreen with shortcuts
ISO up to 25,600
14 stops dynamic range
EVF
Dual SD card slots
Full HD at 25fps
New line of XCD lenses with manual and AF (built-in shutter)
30mm XCD lens will be announced at Photokina in September
All current H lenses will work with an adapter
Shipping will start at the end of August/early September
Comes with a Billingham bag
The X1D camera and lenses design and production was all done by Hasselblad - Fuji was NOT involved (the X1D is not a re-badged camera)
The new XCD lenses are as good as the H lenses
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The Q&A session also mentions the camera is produced and designed entirely by Hasselblad in Sweden (I would assume the components aren't though)
The body is not that much more than a Imacon back with a grip and lens mount - so that would be within the scope Hasselblad can currently cover. But who is supposed to be making the lenses?
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Old 06-22-2016   #48
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Wow ... on paper it's phenomenal!
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Love this "Comes with a Billingham bag"

As though those interested are 'cameraless and bagless'!
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What would you do with a 50MP sensor? Is it really neded for the masses?
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Doesn't anyone else think it looks like a Mamiya 7 ??
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The body is not that much more than a Imacon back with a grip and lens mount - so that would be within the scope Hasselblad can currently cover. But who is supposed to be making the lenses?
A Japanese company called Nitto.
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What would you do with a 50MP sensor? Is it really neded for the masses?
Hmm, the price alone suggests it is not targeted for the masses
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Seems like an impressive camera. Seeing that they went with leaf shutters, there is however a whole bunch of room for innovation regarding the flash system. I'm still waiting to see who has the guts to rethink this part of the package.

Edit. The comment above was perhaps misunderstood. My point was that this is not the system where we will see much flash innovation, as they went with off-the-shelf Nikon stuff.
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Info on Hasselblad site:

http://www.hasselblad.com/us/x1d
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I am sure that this is an amazing camera system. Just costly.
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Hey, the good stuff is expensive just like good photographers! A business needs to find those willing and have the ability to pay the price. But a person has gotta know his limits.

Has features I would use if still in business. Like the RAW file rather than DNG, wi-fi, dynamic range, and others.

However, I do like the web site, main page, lay out, menu, easy to manipulate and if I were still in business would consider something like this as pro. Works very well with my iPad.

Photography of folks is very competitive now.
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did anyone notice the lack of mention of the actual sensor dimensions?
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Seems like an impressive camera. Seeing that they went with leaf shutters, there is however a whole bunch of room for innovation regarding the flash system. I'm still waiting to see who has the guts to rethink this part of the package.
It has Nikon TTL so no one will have to recreate an entirely new trigger system for Hasselblad.
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did anyone notice the lack of mention of the actual sensor dimensions?
It was stated that it's the same off the shelf sensor as the 50c.
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did anyone notice the lack of mention of the actual sensor dimensions?

43.8mm x 32.9mm

see http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk...t-camera-80629
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Actually I think this is a nice design. Very german..
Exactly! Like this:
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I think it looks great and I would love to use it. But my days of buying super expensive digital cameras are over. Maybe in 5 years I'll try it.
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I think it looks great and I would love to use it. But my days of buying super expensive digital cameras are over. Maybe in 5 years I'll try it.
Looks great to me too!

The Leica SL is more practical for my use, but I could see my way to using this if I could afford it. (I already had a full complement of lenses to use with the SL when I bought it... with this new camera, the body is only a starting point to what it would cost me.)

Nice piece, regardless. I look forward to seeing how the system develops.

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Gosh, the size of the sensor!

Thanks for showing the comparisons.

It is expensive but worth it if it's used in business. I keep my digital stuff a long time so over many years it's not too bad! Wish I was young again!

Thanks for the link for pricing.
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It has Nikon TTL so no one will have to recreate an entirely new trigger system for Hasselblad.
Yes, I'm sure many will welcome this.
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This one definitely is in the running for a new purchase..
Will need to know more..
After people start using it..and the bugs are worked out..
Small and powerful and does video too..that tics a lot of my boxes..
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To be honest I find that thing awesome .. not that I could buy one. It looks a bit like a digital Mamiya 7.
My fear is battery burn by the lots of data that needs processing and the limited space for a big battery. Also focus speed - with that size of sensor you need to be more precise so I bet it's slower than I'd like it to be.
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It looks a bit like a digital Mamiya 7.
Agreed...
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Supposedly has CDAF so it'll probably not be good in low light and slow in good light :/
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I am impressed. SL is a roadkill. The lenses are reasonably priced too. For 50MP, that is just crazy "cheap"
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There are too many pretty looking digital cameras, so they went for ugly!
Looks better than any of the cameras here:

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Comes with a Billingham bag. I'm sold.
But seriously, great spec. (on paper). Love the look. We'll look forward to it in 4-5 years.
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Time to have its own forum, admin, please.
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Looks nice!

Maybe in a few years, the second hand prices will be quite affordable
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Hasselblad have killed it. Such a welcome return to form for the company.
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Supposedly has CDAF so it'll probably not be good in low light and slow in good light :/
How about we wait until it actually gets put to good use to form that opinion?

As a current owner of the sensor in my 50c back, I am sure I could get my hands on one to try.
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Good job Hasselblad! The lack of a camera like this is honestly the main reason I am still shooting film. Large sensor in a small hand holdable body, and I assume awesome lenses. I have been waiting for a Mamiya 7 replacement and this seems to be it, the chrome and black even makes it look like a Champagne colored 7II! ...not that I'm going to dump all my Mamiya and Leica gear to get this, but it honestly sounds like a pretty reasonable thing to do. Hell, throw this thing on a multi-row pano head and can forget about shooting 4x5 too. Of course its not cheap, but honestly $14k for a body and the only two lenses I'd really need seems pretty reasonable, not that I can afford it. I'll probably wait for the 100mp version that I hope is a few years down the road, but honestly I'm sure 50mp would suit me just fine.

Sorry for rambling, but this is the most excited about a digital camera I have ever been!
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